Ruby Granger #26 Ruby Granger is a bad writer

[StatusWoe]

she was dead set on Victorian girlhood

Too late now, but I think this would've been a much better topic for her than Carroll's letters.

 

[Ilaariaa]

Wow I was looking at that wondering which thing looked least appetizing out of the diet crisps, the sad bowl of cress, the basket of uncooked asparagus or the single bottle of wine between 4 people… then I clicked to the next story and I think the winner has to be the plate of toast garnished with whole unchopped cloves of garlic! Who tf eats like this pls
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Can you even eat raw asparagus? Isn't it super fibrous and tough?
Most importantly, why would you eat it raw and, as it seems, with no condiments whatsoever when you can just boil it for a few minutes or roast it in the oven and it's gonna taste much better?

 

[figgypud]

I'm an queer person who has written gay fanfiction for years, and consumes a lot of MLM romance - I think it's interesting that there's a perception that it's just straight women that write this and consume that media. I've definitely called my own intentions into question before because I gravitate towards MLM couples instead of WLW romance, even in mainstream literature. I think a lot of it is fetishism that's more internalised in society, and also because MLM couples were far more visible to me when I was younger than any other type of queer love. I don't think I was aware that lesbianism was actually a thing outside of a petty insult until I was in my early teens, whereas being gay was more mainstream.

For context, the main reason I continue to write gay fanfiction is because I consume a lot of media that have predominantly male characters, and therefore predominantly male relationships. For example my main fandom is JJBA, and although I headcanon most of the female characters as WLW in some way (eg. Lisa Lisa) there's not really any other present female protagonists to 'ship' them with. Media is still very male-dominated, and I think that's a big reason why MLM is overrepresented to the point of fetishism. It's more of a systemic issue rather than a problem specifically with writers and consumers, but I would urge cis straight women to pick apart how they're writing their gay relationships because, in my experience, those people are the ones with the most egregious examples of fetishism (like the majority of the Larry Stylinson or Phan fandoms lol, but shipping real people is another issue entirely).

There was a big discussion in Eve's thread before she came out as gay accusing her of queerbaiting, which was incredibly frustrating. I think there's an issue of assuming that traditionally good-looking, effeminate women or female-presenting people are straight because that's the way the male gaze is coded. I don't think it does any good to say that Ruby is or is not LGBTQ+, unless she comes out specifically saying she is one way or the other. It's an incredibly personal issue and I wouldn't want to be the contributing factor to forcing someone to come out just so they don't come across as queerbaiting or pretending to be gay when they're not. I do agree that Ruby never before expressing interest in the LGBTQ+ community in any way is telling, though. Also annoying because I would have loved to be at the Heartstopper premiere



OCD-like symptoms can be varied depending on who it is, she might have symptoms you'd expect (eg. hand-washing) but not fulfil the stereotype you're thinking of. It's got far more to it than just being clean, and you could very easily need to compulsively hand-wash but not worry about mess around you. She's got other symptoms that possibly suggest OCD or a similar anxiety disorder, such as her need to plan her essays five million times before actually writing, which could imply that she does compulsively hand wash. I understand why you wouldn't understand it, but mental illness is incredibly personal and differs from person to person, and OCD in particularly is very misrepresented in media.
(I'm not saying Ruby definitely has OCD, but @bunnys post got me thinking, in conjunction with my best friend having OCD, so I know a lot about it and just want to try and clarify)

Yes, absolutely, I had a very similar experience of fanfiction and learning about myself through queerness in fandom and I think this is the difference between queer women and non-binary people engaging with (mostly) mlm romances (because as you said, media is male-dominated and therefore most complex characters in a lot of media until fairly recently were men), and the way straight cis women engage with it. For them it can just be fantasy and escapism but for non-straight/non-cis people it's deeper than that, and realistic, honest, complex portrayals of queer characters are important for that reason. Queer people shouldn't have to read fetishistic portrayals of characters they connect with for straight peoples' leisure - even though I find that the fetishism is much rarer now than it was ten years ago. One interesting example is Ben and Callum from Eastenders - they're very popular on Twitter with mainly women viewers but a lot of gay male viewers find the relationship and portrayal inauthentic and offensive.

I naturally don't object to people reading outside of their own experience, as someone said before it should be encouraged. With Ruby, I'm not sure she does understand the nuance given her surface level understanding of literally everthing she reads, but then again maybe she identifies more with the LGBTQ+ community than we know. It's a very complex and interesting issue to me so it's been really interesting to read everyone's takes!

 

[Saskia69]

It does look green though, and there’s something that looks like a powder on the side of the bowl. My guess is it’s some stupid crap like spirulina that she’s mixed in with the oats to make them ”healthier”. Another obvious ED meal with spirulina a.k.a. another bs ”weight loss aid”, half a banana, possibly an entire strawberry, frozen berries, a small spoon (it’s one of those long-handle spoons) to make the portion look bigger, a teaspoon of peanut butter, and of course the very fact that she’s had to include all the things in one tiny portion because she was unable to choose and this is the only way she can pretend she’s not depriving herself.

Spoiler: PTW ED talk

This for me is one of the biggest red flags with Uni and, I hate to say it, possibly B too and why living together could have been quite detrimental. When I was struggling badly the “lots of little bits” was a huge feature of my eating - a slice of toast with multiple spreads etc… which I think Ruby has done. And food indecision is a classic symptom of malnutrition and restriction.

I feel bad for her that she’s in that place, however I know that she has far more awareness that I did - simply due to her being a public figure and posting her food, people have called her out! So my sympathy on the “ED causes denial” is limited.

 

[StatusWoe]

Roobee’s chair in August of last year

You sure that's the same chair?

 

[sleepypasta]

If i remember correctly she used to claim she had something called 'clinical perfectionism' when she was a teenager. She also had an exemption from handwriting exams due to a medical problem, she claimed in a livestream once back then that she took an exam and the paper was covered in blood and coudnt be corrected because the way she writes and holds a pencil makes her hand bleed. So she definitely has some disorder.. Maybe OCD?

how does one hold a pencil and make their hand bleed?? The only way I can think of is intentionally stabbing your self with the tip…

 

[Deeandra2020]

I just watched her latest study video and… I thought she said she finished her dissertation and essay? Why is she going over it AGAIN?? When I wrote my essays for uni I read over them twice or three times, making little edits and then that’s it. I wasn’t doing as much as Roobster here.

 

[Marie_10]

I could be wrong but was Ruby buttering her crumpet? Unless it was vegan butter. I know that many vegans don't have ED but for Ruby veganism is simply a way to restrict even more so I'd be so happy if she was reintroducing some animal foods into her diet, she needs it badly...

 

[dodadedo]

Yes, but even so, this is total busywork. A simpler method would be to write a chapter draft until you're more or less happy with it, get feedback on it from your supervisor (depending on what you're allowed to do) and make your edits. Then combine all the chapters into the whole as a final draft and make any further edits. I see no reason to do this multiple times.

Exactly this. The thought of writing out multiple versions of my MLitt dissertation fills me with actual dread. Like, I love the topic I wrote it on (that's why I've adapted it to continue to PhD) but please God no.

But we all know Rueben Sandwich loves inane tasks that don't actually accomplish anything. So I guess we're just different people.

 

[xoxoxo13]

I can't recall which video it was, but when vlogging leaving one of her therapy sessions she cheerfully announced that she'd completed her X number of weeks.

It's impossible to know for sure without more information, but given everything we know about Ruby, it gave the distinct impression to me that she just viewed therapy as another task to tick off (or part of the influencer starter pack that she only did because other influencers her age were openly talking about therapy so she had to do it, too).

After her last session, she rewarded herself by marking it complete and called it a day. She clearly still needed professional help, so it was bizarre to just stop going, and I can't see any therapist making any progress with her in such a short time.

It's entirely possible she's started going back and hasn't talked about it, but I doubt it since she's been on a downward spiral for the past year and a half. I can't imagine her being honest with a therapist, self-aware enough to acknowledge and admit her problems, or humble enough to want to accept that there's something wrong with her and that someone else can help. She's a narcissist and a compulsive liar, I can't see her opening up and being honest to a therapist, and a therapist can't do much if she won't.

I can imagine her feeling 'bullied' by a therapist who calls her out on her behaviors. I've definitely felt attacked by therapists in the past when they've pointed something out. I can't see her being capable of going back to someone who she feels is 'against her'. She sees the world in black and white. You're either obsessed with her, or a hater/bully.

 

[hart301]

She looks so stupid dressed like the girl from Howl's Moving Castle with sunglasses on

I was about to say how much she looked like Sophie!!! I just think outside study with me’s are so stupid for the fact that I don’t know how anyone can even see their stuff? Or without the papers flying away?

 

[hart301]

I don't want to try and diagnose her with anything, but as an autistic woman around her age it seems pretty likely to me that she has it. Obviously every autistic person is different but like her, it took me a lot longer than my peers to grow up and become more independent. I also have extremely poor organisational skills and easily lose track of household tasks. It's quite sad really because I can't even imagine how much harder it would have been for me growing up if I'd been broadcasting my entire life to the internet. I wish that she'd quit being an influencer and just spend time privately figuring out who she is as a person. She surely doesn't need the extra money, she can afford to take time out.

I hate trying to pin a dx on her, but I agree. I am autistic and special interests and hyperfixations can be awful. It's super clear that her obsession with Matilda is probably a special interest, and that her "childishness" (I despise that word) has to deal with not being able to root out of those special interests or hyperfixations. Not all autistic people have issues with adjustment to different places, but it seems that Ruby tends to focus herself in going home not because of adjustment issues, but because it literally is part of her routine now.

 

[Just here to say]

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"such an honest, authentic..." I guess Ruby just doesn't know the meaning of those words so uses them in a strange context???

 

[thena]

Loving how Ruby just expects to write everything correctly and ready to hand in when she solely survives on TWO MUGS OF TEA FOR A WHOLE DAY?? ffs...

 

[Sarabelle]

I noticed she's deleted her ig as well and wondered what happened. Gutted as I really like her ig/YouTube

Yes, Astrid's book reviews were so interesting I am sad too.

I'm a bit late but at the end of the last thread someone said her penpal reminded them of Blakeney and I thought exactly the same when I saw the picture. I know the age difference isn't that big, but at 18 it's still easy to idolise someone who is only 2-3 years older, especially when that person is "famous" on the internet. My first thought was that she found herself a post-uni Blakeney replacement she can maybe mold a little more to her liking than the original.

Didn't she have a friend that was a few years younger than her and also a penpal whom she met up with sometimes? Long brown hair and a fringe but it was ages ago and all of their videos together have been deleted. But she seems to have quite a few younger friends (or did in the past). Not sure what her name was but is it possible that it was also Ruby? I remember some Ruby and Ruby stuff going on back in the day. Not sure if they are friends still.

 

[Griftwood]

Do you still call it ”studying” when you’re (presumably) just putting the final touches to your dissertation? Or is my ESL showing

idk to me it just conjures up the image of trying to learn something, instead of creating/editing written work. I wouldn’t call it a ”study session”.

Orrrr it could be she’s still trying to cram a few more secondary sources into her diss just to pad it out some more, in an effort to make it seem relevant or coherent.

 

[gossip_guy]

I also think we might be reading too much into her choice of literature; these have all been popular books lately (and remember she's writing a YA novel), so it wouldn't surprise me if she's jumping on the bandwagon with the MLM romance trend.

I don't think she'll even go that far, I think it's just sheer coincidence that the show Netflix wanted Ruby to shill was based on an MLM romance series and she can never say no to sponsors.

 

[Scapier88]

I can picture Ruby's thoughts when she was looking at the outfits
It goes something like I could wear that with a boater and tennis shoes

 

[xoxoxo13]

As a veteran Holly Gabrielle viewer, I have to say this looks super similar to Holly's hands. Holly has mentioned she has a (harmless) blood circulation condition called Raynaud's (spelling?), and people over on the Holly thread have mentioned that anorexia can make the symptoms worse, apparently. So maybe Ruby has sth similar? Idk though, I'm not a doctor

but Holly's always had them. I don't think Ruby has.

could it be from bulimia?

 

[timemoveson]

Does anyone remember the video where she was getting ready for school and she wore a big cape leaving the house?

Someone please find the clip of this cape!