I’m not a regular viewer of either of their lives, just remember them more from last year being together a lot. I’ve only watched a bit of hutch and a live he was once in with his gf and thought they came across a bit bitchy however reading this thread it seems they are genuinely nice people who help a lot of others.Pretty sure they have fallen out not sure what about though. I love both of them although I would choose hutch’s live over Ben’s but that’s just a personal choice.