Perimenopause moans #2

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Sitting waiting for my gp consultation to see if they will give me hrt. Feeling so nervous about it but no idea why really need something to get my head straight and stop my horrendous night sweats - will probably blame my antidepressants for that but it’s definitely getting worse as I’m getting less and less nights it doesn’t happen. Migraines have increased too has anyone experienced that with the menopause?
I did. Good luck with the appointment
 
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Sitting waiting for my gp consultation to see if they will give me hrt. Feeling so nervous about it but no idea why really need something to get my head straight and stop my horrendous night sweats - will probably blame my antidepressants for that but it’s definitely getting worse as I’m getting less and less nights it doesn’t happen. Migraines have increased too has anyone experienced that with the menopause?
Don't be afraid to ask/push for what you want, and have your list of symptoms ready.

I printed this out and brought it to my second appointment. Basically listed extremely on most symptoms: https://www.themenopausecharity.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Symptom-Checker.pdf

Perhaps do some research into what kind of HRT you'd like - patches, spray, gel etc. I got the Lenzetto spray and Utrogestan as I refuse to have the coil.

Good luck xx
 
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Don't be afraid to ask/push for what you want, and have your list of symptoms ready.

I printed this out and brought it to my second appointment. Basically listed extremely on most symptoms: https://www.themenopausecharity.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Symptom-Checker.pdf

Perhaps do some research into what kind of HRT you'd like - patches, spray, gel etc. I got the Lenzetto spray and Utrogestan as I refuse to have the coil.

Good luck xx
Thanks ladies ☺

She wants to check my thyroid 1st as I’m under 45 which is fair enough gives me time to look at the different kinds of hrt if my bloods are fine.

She went through the questionnaire but gave up as I pretty much was scoring high on them all.
 
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Thanks ladies ☺

She wants to check my thyroid 1st as I’m under 45 which is fair enough gives me time to look at the different kinds of hrt if my bloods are fine.

She went through the questionnaire but gave up as I pretty much was scoring high on them all.
I was having monthly migraines, peaking at the start and resurging at the end of my cycle. I was losing days and days every month to them.

I gave up caffeine and started on evorel 50 patches and haven’t had one since. Absolute lifesaver. Felt my mood lift pretty much straight away too (I’ve been on citalopram for 3.5 yrs too).

Good luck and I hope you find a great solution.
 
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I don't know if it's been posted but has anyone tried the Yam cream that's on TikTok
 
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Sitting waiting for my gp consultation to see if they will give me hrt. Feeling so nervous about it but no idea why really need something to get my head straight and stop my horrendous night sweats - will probably blame my antidepressants for that but it’s definitely getting worse as I’m getting less and less nights it doesn’t happen. Migraines have increased too has anyone experienced that with the menopause?
That video I posted a few days ago - the lady on there had migraines.
 
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Sitting waiting for my gp consultation to see if they will give me hrt. Feeling so nervous about it but no idea why really need something to get my head straight and stop my horrendous night sweats - will probably blame my antidepressants for that but it’s definitely getting worse as I’m getting less and less nights it doesn’t happen. Migraines have increased too has anyone experienced that with the menopause?
Hey, I'm new to this thread (didn't know it existed until now) and your comment immediately caught my eye as I'm in the exact same situation. I've been asking for help with peri for two years, I'm 45 in august so to get HRT needed bloods to be within their range of whatever they seem appropriate to prescribe it. Unfortunately every time they came back normal, despite my periods becoming lighter, further apart, and only lasting a day or two. That wasn't the issue tho, it was the horrific PMT (in which I became a horrible person, couldn't control my emotions and wanted to not be here any more and thought about how to achieve that), the cramps which felt like my uterus was being ripped out, the low mood and self loathing. I began having hot flushes around Christmas, but tried to manage it.

This past couple of weeks I began having really bad night sweats, unable to sleep, alternating between boiling alive, then shivering cold, and the internal sense of dread and feeling of panic was horrible. It wasn't just during night I was suffering these uncontrollable symptoms during daytime. So I thought it might be a UTI (I have issues in that area, I get them a lot) but they usually don't make me feel that bad unless it had spread to my kidneys, and even then this just felt different. So I went to GP, they checked my wee ect and said yes, it's a UTI and sent me on my way. Two days later (Thursday) I felt exactly the same and was freaking out, so I called and they told me to go back round with them thinking I had a kidney infection (which I very well could to be fair but I usually have a lot more pain, but I've read silent infections are a thing) anyway reason I'm explaining all this is because on Thursday I'd had enough. I was thinking it could be menopause symptoms, and that if this was how I was going to feel for the next however many years then that was just not happening. So I wrote down every symptom, and all the info regarding HRT, which one I wanted, and I was not leaving the surgery without it. The GP I seen was the same one who refused to give me HRT around six months ago so I was ready for a fight. By the time I was called into the room I was dripping in sweat, fanning myself with the paper I'd written everything on. I told him that whilst I very well could (and according to the dip test of my wee) still had an infection this was not the reason I felt so bad. I believe my hormones must be on the floor and the infection tipped me over the edge. I said I wanted HRT, had been ready to have an appointment booked for the day I turned 45 but if I was made to wait until then for help I very much wouldn't like to think where I'd be mentally by then. He, the GP, could tell I was serious and had had enough. I was going to ask to speak to the practice manager if he said no. Much to my suprise he agreed to prescribe HRT, but not until I finish the antibiotics this week, which I understand, just to check the symptoms weren't being caused solely by that (they weren't, I'd had them running up to that point for years, but they rapidly increased to beyond tolerable in the course if a couple of days).

Another thing I have had for a couple of years is migraines, which another GP told me were hormonal. I've not had one in months but from Friday last week, up until Thursday I felt like my head was being crushed in a vice, on top of everything else. I've researched it extensively and they are very much a symptom of peri, and menopause.

Sorry for the long post but I wanted you to know you are not alone, I have very similar symptoms to you. It's bloody awful isn't it? I've not read any further in the thread to see if you got help but yours was the first post I saw here and I couldn't believe the similarities. It's absolutely ridiculous women are having to practically beg for treatment, it makes me so sodding angry. I'm not sure if you've heard of her but there's a gynecologist called Louise Newsom (that's not her last name, my brain is fried, it's something along those lines) who is an incredible advocate for women, and also offers private treatment (and has a payment plan to help those who may not be able to pay the whole cost at once, I was ready to book a consultation if my GP still refused to help me).

I really hope you got help, we get fobbed off with absolutely any excuse, blaming everything else rather than believing that we know our own bodies and wouldn't be asking for something unless we actually needed it. My heart goes out to you, fingers crossed your appointment went well 💜
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Liz is good. I like her. Newson has been criticised for prescribing well over the recommended amount of HRT. Which is off label and therefore might be dangerous.
I had no idea about this, good to know. Whilst I do believe she has done great work raising awareness I will be mindful of this info in future.
 
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Hey, I'm new to this thread (didn't know it existed until now) and your comment immediately caught my eye as I'm in the exact same situation. I've been asking for help with peri for two years, I'm 45 in august so to get HRT needed bloods to be within their range of whatever they seem appropriate to prescribe it. Unfortunately every time they came back normal, despite my periods becoming lighter, further apart, and only lasting a day or two. That wasn't the issue tho, it was the horrific PMT (in which I became a horrible person, couldn't control my emotions and wanted to not be here any more and thought about how to achieve that), the cramps which felt like my uterus was being ripped out, the low mood and self loathing. I began having hot flushes around Christmas, but tried to manage it.

This past couple of weeks I began having really bad night sweats, unable to sleep, alternating between boiling alive, then shivering cold, and the internal sense of dread and feeling of panic was horrible. It wasn't just during night I was suffering these uncontrollable symptoms during daytime. So I thought it might be a UTI (I have issues in that area, I get them a lot) but they usually don't make me feel that bad unless it had spread to my kidneys, and even then this just felt different. So I went to GP, they checked my wee ect and said yes, it's a UTI and sent me on my way. Two days later (Thursday) I felt exactly the same and was freaking out, so I called and they told me to go back round with them thinking I had a kidney infection (which I very well could to be fair but I usually have a lot more pain, but I've read silent infections are a thing) anyway reason I'm explaining all this is because on Thursday I'd had enough. I was thinking it could be menopause symptoms, and that if this was how I was going to feel for the next however many years then that was just not happening. So I wrote down every symptom, and all the info regarding HRT, which one I wanted, and I was not leaving the surgery without it. The GP I seen was the same one who refused to give me HRT around six months ago so I was ready for a fight. By the time I was called into the room I was dripping in sweat, fanning myself with the paper I'd written everything on. I told him that whilst I very well could (and according to the dip test of my wee) still had an infection this was not the reason I felt so bad. I believe my hormones must be on the floor and the infection tipped me over the edge. I said I wanted HRT, had been ready to have an appointment booked for the day I turned 45 but if I was made to wait until then for help I very much wouldn't like to think where I'd be mentally by then. He, the GP, could tell I was serious and had had enough. I was going to ask to speak to the practice manager if he said no. Much to my suprise he agreed to prescribe HRT, but not until I finish the antibiotics this week, which I understand, just to check the symptoms weren't being caused solely by that (they weren't, I'd had them running up to that point for years, but they rapidly increased to beyond tolerable in the course if a couple of days).

Another thing I have had for a couple of years is migraines, which another GP told me were hormonal. I've not had one in months but from Friday last week, up until Thursday I felt like my head was being crushed in a vice, on top of everything else. I've researched it extensively and they are very much a symptom of peri, and menopause.

Sorry for the long post but I wanted you to know you are not alone, I have very similar symptoms to you. It's bloody awful isn't it? I've not read any further in the thread to see if you got help but yours was the first post I saw here and I couldn't believe the similarities. It's absolutely ridiculous women are having to practically beg for treatment, it makes me so sodding angry. I'm not sure if you've heard of her but there's a gynecologist called Louise Newsom (that's not her last name, my brain is fried, it's something along those lines) who is an incredible advocate for women, and also offers private treatment (and has a payment plan to help those who may not be able to pay the whole cost at once, I was ready to book a consultation if my GP still refused to help me).

I really hope you got help, we get fobbed off with absolutely any excuse, blaming everything else rather than believing that we know our own bodies and wouldn't be asking for something unless we actually needed it. My heart goes out to you, fingers crossed your appointment went well 💜
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I had no idea about this, good to know. Whilst I do believe she has done great work raising awareness I will be mindful of this info in future.
Reposting this as sounds similar to you
 
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I really feel for those of you who’ve had a rough time asking for
Hrt, I was amazed how easy it was at my surgery at the time. It really should be like that for everyone. I didn’t get blood tests or anything. I just asked for
Hrt, had a phone chat, they asked what I wanted to try and that was it. I’ve been very lucky I see now.
 
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Welcome @Cheezychips! What a rollercoaster. I hope your new prescriptions will be a huge help.

UTIs can also be more common in perimenopause. Last time I had one I was pre-HRT and thought I took antibiotics. My gut health was absolutely decimated and fell off a cliff 2 weeks later (I blame the nitrofurantoin).

I was told vaginal estrogen would help prevent them recurring so hopefully you have been prescribed that too.
 
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I’m on the mini pill so not had periods for ages. Started HRT about six months ago and stayed on the pill and had a little bit of bleeding but nothing major and I felt so much better.

Skip to this week and I’m having hot flushes and I’ve had a half hearted period for a week with cramps and feeling rubbish. Anyone else had this? My anxious mind is convincing myself something awful is going on but it’s probably just hormones doing hormonal things 🙄

Will book a check up if I can
 
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Hey, I'm new to this thread (didn't know it existed until now) and your comment immediately caught my eye as I'm in the exact same situation. I've been asking for help with peri for two years, I'm 45 in august so to get HRT needed bloods to be within their range of whatever they seem appropriate to prescribe it. Unfortunately every time they came back normal, despite my periods becoming lighter, further apart, and only lasting a day or two. That wasn't the issue tho, it was the horrific PMT (in which I became a horrible person, couldn't control my emotions and wanted to not be here any more and thought about how to achieve that), the cramps which felt like my uterus was being ripped out, the low mood and self loathing. I began having hot flushes around Christmas, but tried to manage it.

This past couple of weeks I began having really bad night sweats, unable to sleep, alternating between boiling alive, then shivering cold, and the internal sense of dread and feeling of panic was horrible. It wasn't just during night I was suffering these uncontrollable symptoms during daytime. So I thought it might be a UTI (I have issues in that area, I get them a lot) but they usually don't make me feel that bad unless it had spread to my kidneys, and even then this just felt different. So I went to GP, they checked my wee ect and said yes, it's a UTI and sent me on my way. Two days later (Thursday) I felt exactly the same and was freaking out, so I called and they told me to go back round with them thinking I had a kidney infection (which I very well could to be fair but I usually have a lot more pain, but I've read silent infections are a thing) anyway reason I'm explaining all this is because on Thursday I'd had enough. I was thinking it could be menopause symptoms, and that if this was how I was going to feel for the next however many years then that was just not happening. So I wrote down every symptom, and all the info regarding HRT, which one I wanted, and I was not leaving the surgery without it. The GP I seen was the same one who refused to give me HRT around six months ago so I was ready for a fight. By the time I was called into the room I was dripping in sweat, fanning myself with the paper I'd written everything on. I told him that whilst I very well could (and according to the dip test of my wee) still had an infection this was not the reason I felt so bad. I believe my hormones must be on the floor and the infection tipped me over the edge. I said I wanted HRT, had been ready to have an appointment booked for the day I turned 45 but if I was made to wait until then for help I very much wouldn't like to think where I'd be mentally by then. He, the GP, could tell I was serious and had had enough. I was going to ask to speak to the practice manager if he said no. Much to my suprise he agreed to prescribe HRT, but not until I finish the antibiotics this week, which I understand, just to check the symptoms weren't being caused solely by that (they weren't, I'd had them running up to that point for years, but they rapidly increased to beyond tolerable in the course if a couple of days).

Another thing I have had for a couple of years is migraines, which another GP told me were hormonal. I've not had one in months but from Friday last week, up until Thursday I felt like my head was being crushed in a vice, on top of everything else. I've researched it extensively and they are very much a symptom of peri, and menopause.

Sorry for the long post but I wanted you to know you are not alone, I have very similar symptoms to you. It's bloody awful isn't it? I've not read any further in the thread to see if you got help but yours was the first post I saw here and I couldn't believe the similarities. It's absolutely ridiculous women are having to practically beg for treatment, it makes me so sodding angry. I'm not sure if you've heard of her but there's a gynecologist called Louise Newsom (that's not her last name, my brain is fried, it's something along those lines) who is an incredible advocate for women, and also offers private treatment (and has a payment plan to help those who may not be able to pay the whole cost at once, I was ready to book a consultation if my GP still refused to help me).

I really hope you got help, we get fobbed off with absolutely any excuse, blaming everything else rather than believing that we know our own bodies and wouldn't be asking for something unless we actually needed it. My heart goes out to you, fingers crossed your appointment went well 💜
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I had no idea about this, good to know. Whilst I do believe she has done great work raising awareness I will be mindful of this info in future.
Sorry you went through all of this but thanks for sharing. I hope the HRT makes a quick improvement for you.
 
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Just curious, anyone feeling so overwhelmed that they have left their job and taken a career break? I am tempted to do so. Just to find me again.
 
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Just curious, anyone feeling so overwhelmed that they have left their job and taken a career break? I am tempted to do so. Just to find me again.
I kind of went the other way - came off 16 years of self-employment back to a corporate job in financial services. It's certainly a time of big change for a lot of women.
 
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Just curious, anyone feeling so overwhelmed that they have left their job and taken a career break? I am tempted to do so. Just to find me again.
I had six weeks off work. I had such bad brain fog I was worried I would lose my pin. I made a medication error, luckily I underdosed and didn't overdose but it scared me.
The break was just what I needed. I started HRT and just spent the time being selfish, I ate what I wanted , went on walks , had naps and just tried to enjoy life again.
 
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Does anyone else ever feel like a bit of a fraud or that they’re jumping on the peri bandwagon? I don’t recall hearing anything about peri when I was younger. You were either menopausal or you weren’t. I don’t know if it’s a recently recognised thing or what but I know my many symptoms are real and not in my head or caused by stress. I don’t know if it’s that I’m just more conscious of it now. Kind of like if you buy a certain colour car, every other car you see is the same as the one you’ve just bought.
 
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Does anyone else ever feel like a bit of a fraud or that they’re jumping on the peri bandwagon? I don’t recall hearing anything about peri when I was younger. You were either menopausal or you weren’t. I don’t know if it’s a recently recognised thing or what but I know my many symptoms are real and not in my head or caused by stress. I don’t know if it’s that I’m just more conscious of it now. Kind of like if you buy a certain colour car, every other car you see is the same as the one you’ve just bought.
I agree peri wasn’t mentioned when I was younger either, I think now with social media and everyone talking about that it’s more recognised. Whereas before it was kind if swept under the carpet.
 
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Does anyone else ever feel like a bit of a fraud or that they’re jumping on the peri bandwagon? I don’t recall hearing anything about peri when I was younger. You were either menopausal or you weren’t. I don’t know if it’s a recently recognised thing or what but I know my many symptoms are real and not in my head or caused by stress. I don’t know if it’s that I’m just more conscious of it now. Kind of like if you buy a certain colour car, every other car you see is the same as the one you’ve just bought.
Some 40 something instagrammer was saying that peri symptoms are a big thing since covid because people( ie women) started analysing how their bodies feel ,and keep a mental note. That is how the current peri age group are so aware. And Davina, of course.
 
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Not to dismiss our fore-mothers' struggles but I wonder if symptoms and time frame of menopause has changed over the last few generations. Like with girls starting their periods years earlier now, is something happening to female hormones and our reproduction systems in general?

Bit deep there 😂
 
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