Peaches Geldof and the Geldof family #3

[MrsBsDayOff]

I wondered were Peaches and Tom separated at the time? The bits about him staying at his parents house, kid being dropped off, made it seem that way. Never seen it confirmed or denied.

I think you are absolutely right. Paula used to write about visions of an Enid Blyton-style childhood for her children, which was mostly fiction, so it's not surprising her daughter had the same vision. Neither of them were hindered by money troubles, thanks to Saint Bob, so in an ideal world, they could have had a dozen children in as many years, in their beautiful countryside home.

It's all so sad that it all ended in such a sordid and tragic way. I hope the poisoned chalice has stopped being passed on, in the Geldof family, now.

I didn't like Paula then and still don't. She seemed to me like she was conceited, fake (spinning a narrative about being a supermum) and nasty. I don't believe that she was a nice person at all and she was a selfish mother who put her own needs above her daughters, likely causing long lasting damage. Peaches seemed to idolise her which is understandable in a way, having lost her mum so young, and having a wild streak herself.

I'm not a huge fan of Bob Geldof but haven't seen any strong evidence that his parenting style contributed to the loss of Peaches. Also I noticed when interviewed, Peaches seemed genuinely warm about him so I got the impression they got on well.Having said that, I'm sure there's more to the story that we'll never hear.

What was the relationship between Jeanne and Peaches/Fifi/Pixie like? Jeanne and Tiger seemed close.

Is Fifi still with her husband?

 

[FrannyGallops]

I didn't like Paula then and still don't. She seemed to me like she was conceited, fake (spinning a narrative about being a supermum) and nasty. I don't believe that she was a nice person at all and she was a selfish mother who put her own needs above her daughters, likely causing long lasting damage. Peaches seemed to idolise her which is understandable in a way, having lost her mum so young, and having a wild streak herself.

I think Paula was dealing with a lot of trauma from her own childhood. Her mother was absent a lot and (I think) a lot younger than her father. Neither were particularly good parents but I think she adored her dad, only to find out later that he wasn’t actually her dad. In her autobiography, she’s actually pretty funny and very self deprecating but I agree she wasn’t likeable on screen for many people which is something the press played on when the affair came out. She was absolutely vilified in the media for something men get away with doing all the time.

In the end though, it all comes to personal responsibility and choices in adulthood, and it’s always the children that end up fucked up. I hope Peaches kids break the cycle.

 

[coffeeandwine]

I wondered were Peaches and Tom separated at the time? The bits about him staying at his parents house, kid being dropped off, made it seem that way. Never seen it confirmed or denied.


I didn't like Paula then and still don't. She seemed to me like she was conceited, fake (spinning a narrative about being a supermum) and nasty. I don't believe that she was a nice person at all and she was a selfish mother who put her own needs above her daughters, likely causing long lasting damage. Peaches seemed to idolise her which is understandable in a way, having lost her mum so young, and having a wild streak herself.

I'm not a huge fan of Bob Geldof but haven't seen any strong evidence that his parenting style contributed to the loss of Peaches. Also I noticed when interviewed, Peaches seemed genuinely warm about him so I got the impression they got on well.Having said that, I'm sure there's more to the story that we'll never hear.

What was the relationship between Jeanne and Peaches/Fifi/Pixie like? Jeanne and Tiger seemed close.

Is Fifi still with her husband?

The last in person convo they had was an argument about Peaches' obsession with Elliott Smith, a heroin addicted musician who died a tragic death in very strange circumstances. The argument was on a train and there were witnesses.

I think they were together but I also think Tom was probably struggling to be around her given that she'd relapsed and seemed to base a chunk of her identity on her addiction. Hardly surprising then that he wanted to be away from it and with his parents who could help with the children.

 

[Serene Serena]

I remember reading the transcript of that conversation and wondering why she was so obsessed with a dead heroin addict. Did she see him as a romantic, though troubled, hero? Her soulmate in another dimension?

She definitely seemed to regard her addiction as something rather special, instead of the sleazy, sordid mess it actually was.

 

[maytoseptember]

I remember reading the transcript of that conversation and wondering why she was so obsessed with a dead heroin addict. Did she see him as a romantic, though troubled, hero? Her soulmate in another dimension?

She definitely seemed to regard her addiction as something rather special, instead of the sleazy, sordid mess it actually was.

Nail on head, I think. Peaches strikes me as the type of girl to idolise Elliot Smith as this beautiful, fucked up genius who burned too bright (girls like that in love with rock stars like that are ten a penny) and some sort of kindred spirit.

His death was awful though (for those who don’t know, it wasn’t an OD, he either stabbed himself in the chest or was murdered by an unknown assailant).

 

[Serene Serena]

Nail on head, I think. Peaches strikes me as the type of girl to idolise Elliot Smith as this beautiful, fucked up genius who burned too bright (girls like that in love with rock stars like that are ten a penny) and some sort of kindred spirit.

His death was awful though (for those who don’t know, it wasn’t an OD, he either stabbed himself in the chest or was murdered by an unknown assailant).

I've just read the wikipedia page about him. I had no idea he died in 2003 for a start. As for his death, surely his girlfriend killed him. What a strange way to commit suicide.

 

[Beverley Macker]

I know someone who took their own life that way, it’s horrible but it does happen.

 

[coffeeandwine]

I know someone who took their own life that way, it’s horrible but it does happen.

The thing is though there were no hesitation wounds which are normally always present if you stab yourself. His girlfriend also pulled the knife out of his chest when she allegedly discovered him despite having medical/first aid experience. They always tell you to NEVER remove a knife from a stab wound as that's when all sorts of nasty blood loss happens. Surely with her experience she would know that. I dunno, I definitely think Elliott Smith was the type of guy who could kill himself but the circumstances surrounding it have never sat right with me.

 

[LoopyLou47]

I remember reading the transcript of that conversation and wondering why she was so obsessed with a dead heroin addict. Did she see him as a romantic, though troubled, hero? Her soulmate in another dimension?

She definitely seemed to regard her addiction as something rather special, instead of the sleazy, sordid mess it actually was.

Yes I think she did see it as something romantic in a 'no one understands my pain/genius/needs 'way. Thomas must have been in despair that she was obsessed with him when she was an addict who said she was getting clean and had a husband and 2 tiny children. Especially when she spent her time pretending to be an earth mother on TV. It must have been very difficult to live with.

 

[Serene Serena]

Yes I think she did see it as something romantic in a 'no one understands my pain/genius/needs 'way. Thomas must have been in despair that she was obsessed with him when she was an addict who said she was getting clean and had a husband and 2 tiny children. Especially when she spent her time pretending to be an earth mother on TV. It must have been very difficult to live with.

I used to know a woman who was obsessed with Percy Bysse Shelley, the poet, who died aged 29 of drowning. She was convinced she would have been his muse and would have saved his life. Very strange, unhealthy behaviour. For her, it was a form of escapism - she was a carer for her elderly parents and it got her through the day.

 

[Flowerpotgirl]

Tragic Michael Hutchence's sister slams Helena Christensen over injury secret

HE was the wildman of rock who dated the world’s most beautiful women including supermodel Helena Christensen and actress Kylie Minogue. So it was a huge shock when INXS lead singer Michael Hutche…

www.thesun.co.uk

Lots of interesting info in this article!

 

[Miss Havisham]

Tragic Michael Hutchence's sister slams Helena Christensen over injury secret

HE was the wildman of rock who dated the world’s most beautiful women including supermodel Helena Christensen and actress Kylie Minogue. So it was a huge shock when INXS lead singer Michael Hutche…

www.thesun.co.uk

Lots of interesting info in this article!

Sad to read that the ex girlfriend gets the blame - despite there being “alcohol and cocaine” in his bloodstream when he died.

 

[LoopyLou47]

Sad to read that the ex girlfriend gets the blame - despite there being “alcohol and cocaine” in his bloodstream when he died.

Yes it's not for her to tell his family, no matter how close they were. It was Michael's responsibility. If he didn't tell them and/ or told her not to tell them it's not her job to go against his wishes.I seem to remember Michael and his family were not close. They hardly saw Tiger Lily but still fought for custody. They all seem dodgy.

 

[plinky2]

It is so annoying she’s blaming Helena now. This is why Tiger was estranged for so long, because his family did nothing but infighting and media interviews.
Michael asked Helena to keep it private and she did. I don’t think it was down to Helena to be responsible for Michael he was a grown adult. It’s well documented Michael dabbled with drugs alcohol and depression for a long time, before his accident and the 2019 film maker said they found lots of older references to suicide over the years and images in his diary

 

[Jelly Bean]

Sad to read that the ex girlfriend gets the blame - despite there being “alcohol and cocaine” in his bloodstream when he died.

My ex husband sustained a bad brain injury around the same time as MH from a car crash.
The information around long term damage around it was almost non existent. So different to now. We were told he would be back to 'normal' in a couple of months (and these were top specialists). We were offered no ongoing support, counselling services or information. His personality changed and decades later he is still feeling the effects.
How on earth Helena C was meant to understand the ramifications and significance of such an injury, when the medical profession didn't, is staggering.
Hutchence's family are clutching at straws over who to blame.

 

[MrsBsDayOff]

It is so annoying she’s blaming Helena now. This is why Tiger was estranged for so long, because his family did nothing but infighting and media interviews.
Michael asked Helena to keep it private and she did. I don’t think it was down to Helena to be responsible for Michael he was a grown adult. It’s well documented Michael dabbled with drugs alcohol and depression for a long time, before his accident and the 2019 film maker said they found lots of older references to suicide over the years and images in his diary

I agree. The Hutchence family, or at least the ones who have gone public, seem bitter and nasty - I can see why Tiger was better off staying in the UK. I don't see how Helena is guilty of anything, based on that story.

 

[LoopyLou47]

I agree. The Hutchence family, or at least the ones who have gone public, seem bitter and nasty - I can see why Tiger was better off staying in the UK. I don't see how Helena is guilty of anything, based on that story.

All the #sadface pictures clutching flowers at Michaels grave in the world will turn back time and make them into a better, closer family.

 

[Sandyclaws]

It's really sad thinking about how his whole life changed after a night eating pizza in the street

 

[Serene Serena]

Helena wasn’t to blame for Michael’s head injury. Michael himself could have sought medical treatment although, with some head injuries, there’s no straightforward treatment.

His family are looking for someone to blame and it’s not fair.

 

[HappytobeaSusan]

I loved Paula Yates. She was a year or so older than me and was such an icon. She had babies but still looked great and with such style. Sadly meeting Michael Hutchence introduced her to drugs which she had never been interested in before. Then Hughie Green being her father and the loss of Michael sent her over the brink. Poor Peaches following her story, so tragic.