Be interesting to see how they will work it because normally I get £900 a month in deductions , when they do lump sumps I end up with £1500 in deductions so I’m worse off for that month
Be interesting to see how they will work it because normally I get £900 a month in deductions , when they do lump sumps I end up with £1500 in deductions so I’m worse off for that monthI read today that the lump sum is non pensionable. Not sure how they'll manage that though!
They don't take 100% of your lump sum in deductions though do they. So you're not worse off.Be interesting to see how they will work it because normally I get £900 a month in deductions , when they do lump sumps I end up with £1500 in deductions so I’m worse off for that month
Fuck all. They’re bribing todays workers to fuck over tomorrows. 5% is utterly insulting. Unfortunately I think this is the end of the line though, I don’t think they have the steam for more strikes. Holding out for the junior doctors doing better but sad for my nursing colleagues having such a shitty offer which insults their professionSoooo everyone gets more money in the recently announced pay deal. What about the shocking conditions, stress, burn out etc, what’s being done about them ?
Jesus we go round in circles. What’s your point?Tbh if that’s considered a pay cut a lot of the UK are getting a pay cut too
In reality, it a pay cut. Prices have risen, the cost of living is higher and the offer doesn’t remedy this, it’s a real terms pay cut, the only terms that matter.In real money terms yes. But it isn't actually a pay cut.
A pay cut is going from earning 35k to 30k.
Not 35k having less buying power as everything costs more.
You won’t get taxed loads. You will get taxed accordingly to your tax code. The problem with one off payments is that HMRC think that the new gross figure is now your new figure for every month so they tax accordingly. It sorts itself out over the remainder of the tax yearI’m going to be taxed loads on the lump sum. Seems pretty unfair to call this a bonus when everyone will lose a lot due to tax.
The private sector gets taxed on bonuses too, generally.You won’t get taxed loads. You will get taxed accordingly to your tax code. The problem with one off payments is that HMRC think that the new gross figure is now your new figure for every month so they tax accordingly. It sorts itself out over the remainder of the tax year
Really sorry, I don't know but didn't want to post and not reply to you. They're saying it's a payment for 22/23 so might be worth contacting your old HR dept and asking if you will get payment for the 11 months of the year you did work.Sorry to jump on this thread, I have a question and would be grateful if anyone knows the answer.
im an RN, and left my nursing post in February. I still have a job in healthcare but not with the nhs. I was utterly fed up of nursing and wanted a change.
does anyone know if I will be entitled to the proposed one of payment for the months I worked from April 2022?
thanks so much for taking the time to respond.Really sorry, I don't know but didn't want to post and not reply to you. They're saying it's a payment for 22/23 so might be worth contacting your old HR dept and asking if you will get payment for the 11 months of the year you did work.
Although I would leave it a little while as they generally don't know much more than we do straight after the announcements (also it's not been accepted yet)
I wanted to post this as it might help some to realise what they will be entitled to.
It's all NHS payroll staff, not just nursing/AHPs etcDoes anyone know of the bonus is a standard pay to all nhs nurses - or more goes to those who worked frontline with Covid, a lot of nurses who were shielding didn’t work at all, not their fault but just wondering if those who had direct contact working with Covid patients get more?! A lot of countries paid extra to those who were dealing with the worst, and some nurses have done this and some haven’t.
I’m not followingThey don't take 100% of your lump sum in deductions though do they. So you're not worse off.
You earn more you pay more in tax/NI/pension etc. But they don't take all of it.
If you paid £600 more in deductions you still would have taken home probably £1200 more NET than a month with no lump sum.
Why is that relevant? Can no one comment on this if they aren’t nurses or blowing smoke up their backsides?Could I ask what it is you do?
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What’s your occupation? Just out of interest.
Wow that's awful! You'll always get the worst in the internet though and these people would never say it directly to the people on the picket line. It's the same with some of the comments on here which suggests there is animosity against all strikers in general by some.I think it’s a case of don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Anyone who expects a Tory government to give an above inflation pay rise is a fool. That’s not the way that they operate.
The detail hasn’t been revealed, but it would be quite controversial to make the lump sum tax free. The private sector pay tax on their bonuses as has already been said.
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As a public sector worker who was also on strike yesterday, members of my union were subjected to comments like this.We worked through the pandemic too but aren’t referred to as ‘angels’. We didn’t get free food or discounts. I’m sure that a charity or Foodbank would gladly accept the donations if NHS staff don’t want the money.
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This actually happened to me earlier this year with the other small payrise we were given, it pushed me into a higher tier for everything and so I had about £100 less a month in my pay packet (and for some reason the NHS had a system of taking the same amount per band for your pension whether you worked 5 or 35 hours a week, so it was even worse for some, they've changed that now!)I’m not following
So every month I have approx £900 deducted from NI , tax , pension , student loan
However when we got the back dated pay one year and a lump sum , it put me into the next pension bracket so I had more deducted from me that money so instead of walking away with say 2.7k a month , I walked away with 2.1k amonth
it wasn’t just me ,there was all uproar all over the Facebook group for our trust , there was sooo many people who walked away with less because of the pension bracket and also pension arrears
I literally work in payroll in public sector. So I have seen many pay increases and unconsolidated payments being made. Each pension cont band is only 1 or 2% higher than the one before.I’m not following
So every month I have approx £900 deducted from NI , tax , pension , student loan
However when we got the back dated pay one year and a lump sum , it put me into the next pension bracket so I had more deducted from me that money so instead of walking away with say 2.7k a month , I walked away with 2.1k amonth
it wasn’t just me ,there was all uproar all over the Facebook group for our trust , there was sooo many people who walked away with less because of the pension bracket and also pension arrears
It's totally irrelevant what my occupation is to this discussion.Could I ask what it is you do?
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What’s your occupation? Just out of interest.
That's a really spiteful comment.I think it’s a case of don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Anyone who expects a Tory government to give an above inflation pay rise is a fool. That’s not the way that they operate.
The detail hasn’t been revealed, but it would be quite controversial to make the lump sum tax free. The private sector pay tax on their bonuses as has already been said.
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As a public sector worker who was also on strike yesterday, members of my union were subjected to comments like this.We worked through the pandemic too but aren’t referred to as ‘angels’. We didn’t get free food or discounts. I’m sure that a charity or Foodbank would gladly accept the donations if NHS staff don’t want the money.
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This is the thing, a lot of people's anger about the strikes (of nurses, teachers) not just here but what I see everywhere is that we are all (or most of us anyway) doing worse financially each year. I wish I was in an industry that had a union and could strike, which we all should have the right to do, we shouldn't be taking anger/annoyance out on workers that are fighting for their rights it should be at governments that have curtailed oursOh you poor things, you should totally not have to pay tax on your lump sum and extra pay. You guys should strike.
No we shouldn't. My anger is directed at the following:This is the thing, a lot of people's anger about the strikes (of nurses, teachers) not just here but what I see everywhere is that we are all (or most of us anyway) doing worse financially each year. I wish I was in an industry that had a union and could strike, which we all should have the right to do, we shouldn't be taking anger/annoyance out on workers that are fighting for their rights it should be at governments that have curtailed ours
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