It’s about enticing new nurses so you ‘little people’ get the care you need. Sorry we are standing up for ourselves and our patients. I’m burnt out.
That chip must be heavy. Blocked you by the way hun as I want to keep my membership on tattle. You’re vile.
I knew it would come. I estimated March when you would all turn on us. Proved right. And I earn £27k, don’t use a foodbank but burnt out doing the job of 3 people.
Not right for me. I turned against you around Christmas time
The fact that NHS staff could earn the same/more in Aldi is a sad reflection on this country though - and I’m not saying that because I (not a nurse, but a healthcare professional working in the NHS) think I’m any better than anyone working in Aldi, I’m not. NHS staff are not “above” those working in Aldi, but the fact is that we go to uni for multiple years, take on huge amounts of debt, continue to pay to continue our professional registration and then shoulder massive responsibility for people’s lives so it is in no way comparable to working in Aldi. As a country, we should want to attract the absolute best and brightest into the NHS to care for our population and we can’t do that when you can earn the same/more in a supermarket without spending years training and saddling yourself with debt - there has to be a difference for us to effectively recruit and retain staff and pay them in a way that reflects their level of training and responsibility not just because we think we’re above working in Aldi!
Right what did the people striking expect? What I wrote earlier explained why people might be “turning on you”
That should’ve been the unions message, bigger wages to attract the best staff possible and improve working conditions. Instead of snidey remarks about every non medical worker and insulting bull about their £33k a year nurses using food banks. If the fuckery and stupid comments wasn’t at the focal point of their reasons for striking I don’t think people would’ve turned on them at all
A hundred million percent.
100% this. I am a nurse-20 years in nhs. Did not support the strikes but felt too intimidated to say. Instead told colleagues I was unison but promptly left RCN due to being disgusted when the 48hr strike was revealed. Imo striking is counter productive and I’m embarrassed at my colleagues and friends who jumped on the bandwagon.
I think this is a problem with lots of.things nowadays,, everything is broadcast in the style of social media ie as quickly/few words as possible. As someone said earlier of course a doctor /nurse for their years of study and responsibility for , literally, life and death should be paid more than a supermarket worker but the simplistic way it has been explained is not at all helpful and does just come across as snobbery
I’ve thought about this loads.
I think such comments can be clumsy but ultimately I'd like to live in a society where we pay our doctors and nurses more than supermarket workers. Tough tit to anyone who disagrees with me.
Well yes, aren't you a doctor? I'm sure you do. Last sentence is hardly a compelling argument and proves the point that it looks like snobbery.
Fellow nurse here and agree wholeheartedly with you x100% this. I am a nurse-20 years in nhs. Did not support the strikes but felt too intimidated to say. Instead told colleagues I was unison but promptly left RCN due to being disgusted when the 48hr strike was revealed. Imo striking is counter productive and I’m embarrassed at my colleagues and friends who jumped on the bandwagon.
Edit sorry if not making sense-v tired
It’s not snobbery to believe that professions *requiring* a university education and a high skill base with high levels of responsibility should be paid more than jobs which don’t have those things. I’ve worked in retail, it’s tit as the public treat you terribly and it could be physically tiring but it wasn’t intellectually taxing. Do we really expect prospective medical students, in the top 5% academically, to take on £50k+ debt and a ton of responsibility when the NHS is delivering substandard care due to years of neglect, when they could go work literally anywhere else? Same for nurses, how else can we attract people to the profession ? Changes to the culture and conditions of the NHS will take years by comparison to keeping pay in line with inflation.
I don’t begrudge Aldi workers or anyone else from having decent pay, my point is that certain public sector workers are NOT getting decent pay for the work they do and the skills/responsibilities they have. People keep repeatedly bringing up supermarket workers etc and what they did in the pandemic etc etc otherwise I wouldn’t allude to it. The value of the service provided by our doctors and nurses is more than what we are paying them for it .
There you go, you can say that without shitting on Aldi workers. People keep bringing up Aldi workers because the tabloids and doctors/nurses on social media keep harping on about how they'd 'earn more in Aldi' as if it's the fault or problem of Aldi workers? It's bizarre.
