She’s had that for ages though, this situation is new. So stands to reason they are looking for what has changed. Likely progression but even then, it’s not so easy to identify the exact cause especially when an illness is so widespread. They could have tried lots of things and they not be working so they could still be perplexed. Also she could know very well and just not be saying so.
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I don't believe she's EOL at all (most likely trying to get an infection under control like others have said). She's just limited in what she can post while she's in hospital because she can't be real, she never has been, so she's using the long pauses, vague responses and 'ask me' boxes as techniques to keep her engagement score high (which is actually quite challenging for her as she has a high number of followers) so that she can get back to the real business of grifting when she's out of hospital.
I feel so uncharitable with this view but she's done absolutely nothing over the last week or so to make me think any differently.
I feel so uncharitable with this view but she's done absolutely nothing over the last week or so to make me think any differently.
Because, IMO and in my brief stint into viewing these health "influencers", I've finally come to realise there is a significant disconnect between viewers and IG /YT content creators.
They (mostly) treat content as an advertising "job", whilst we become emotionally invested in the individual and their personal struggles.
Mostly for them, outside of the adulation and compensation factors, they can take us or leave us at a whim. Their loyalty isn't to us, it's to their benefactors. Her GFM is for a "living list". Well, she ensures she includes her fancy holidays to show that those funds are hard at work.
Is it right? Is it fair? Depends on your understanding of the disparate positions we hold. If you view the entire relationship from NNL's perspective, she's no more than an actress promoting various products through her cancer narrative and by cultivating as many sheep as possible. We don't expect actresses we see in product commercials to update us on their lives. To them, they are being paid to promote products and that's the extent which ends at the conclusion of the commercial. They are paid to sell us a narrative to capture our interest, whether it has included personal factors to persuade us or not. I believe that's how NNL views us.
To me, she doesnt "owe" me anything as that's not her modus operandi. I shouldn't expect something it was never her intention to give. Her content has been a means to an end to produce a financial stream. She therefore would not feel she ever "owed" her viewers a health update once she's satisfied the terms of her contracts of using her narrative to sell products. Her obligation is to her financial backers, not to the consumers.
That's how I've come to view this relationship. It helps to make sense why I should not "expect" anything from her since her loyalty and narrative are geared towards how best to capitalise on her advertising relationships. It has absolutely nothing to do with producing an authentic, timely biography which, sadly, is what her viewers actually want.
She has never thanked anyone for the huge amount raised for her Go Fund Me for holidays. £35,000.
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It is closed now but considering most holidays were given to her after she blatently begged for them I wonder what the money was used for?
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It is closed now but considering most holidays were given to her after she blatently begged for them I wonder what the money was used for?
no, you are missing the point im afraid.
Gosh, there’s so much to unpack here and I reckon a dissertation or two can be written (and probably already have) on the nature of influencing and the audiences they are using to earn a living.
I get the logic behind your argument but what’s missing is the ‘social’ part of all this. This is social media not traditional media and whatever you believe Nic’s view is - she has built her brand, and her ability to monetise her audience on the back of parasocial relationships with the people who follow her.
Her ‘fans’ feel a deep connection to her - even more so than you would a beauty influencer, because of the fact that she’s a terminal cancer patient - they follow her for any number of reasons within that paradigm (hope, advice, the feeling of being seen, grief tourism, inspiration porn; the list is endless) They have become invested in her journey way beyond that of an actress on TV and Nic has used this to her benefit in the form of donations to her Go Fund Me, free tit and compensation from brands.
So while she may not owe her followers anything contractually, it’s not unreasonable to expect a level of authenticity, especially given the deep connection and subject matter.
It’s all so murky and multi-layered and deserves a much deeper analysis than what I’ve given above but that’s my 2 cents, back of fag packet, dive
Maybe some people have taken this as “suzeq agrees with this” rather than “this is the way it is, and suzeq is just calling a spade a spade…”
Well that’s how I see it anyway. Nicky is an actress, nothing more nothing less. In HER mind, she owes the people engaging with her content nothing. Whether we agree or disagree with that, is irrelevant because it still doesn’t change the fact that she doesn’t give two hoots about her followers, and it’s all about the money.
I couldn’t care less whether she updates or not to be honest. She doesn’t give a tit about me, so why would I? I don’t know about any of you, but I’ve never felt more empty than listening to Nicky update her stories with “How are we all?”
I even saw a post from Lauren Mahon yesterday asking for suggestions about “content.” It made my stomach lurch. Imagine living in a world, where you felt a connection to someone on social media, based on a post you came across— only to find out they viewed that post as “content.”
They are basically waiving a big flag that says IM MANIPULATING YOU right in your damn face.
Sure, they are all at it. “Content Creator” is a popular title it seems.
This is the game on social media, but it will never sit right with me.
I agree with all this too - it's another strand to my argument above and definitely not mutually exclusive to it. The sad thing is though, a pretty good percentage of her followers do feel a connection with her, especially those who are struggling with ill health, and that's just off the charts awful for them to be manipulated in that way. Unfortunately not everyone out there is a critical thinker and they're prime fodder for pawns in the game.
We are talking the same language. And this is why, when I hear “content creators” talking about “safe spaces” and “community” I know it’s time to run. The fact is, social media isn’t safe if you are in a vulnerable place. It just isn’t. Especially if there is money being donated or purchases made on a regular basis to the same person. And it’s not a “community” if the money only flows one way. Like you said, this conversation is nuanced, and needs more analysis then I have the inclination for. But sadly I’d say MOST people are not critical thinkers. That’s humanity. You could spell it out to them, and they still wouldn’t be able to see it, or even WANT to see it. But the “Nickys” of the world sure do know how to benefit from these people.
Yes, this is just how I've come to reconcile why I'm left expecting more from these people who have shared such a compelling narrative that really makes me WANT to know how they are doing as I'm really rooting for them. That was their business objective.
But, it only makes sense when I view their content through a financial lens and understand they aren't viewing their content the same way they are expecting me to. Of course they aren't sharing important updates in a timely manner, their objective isn't relating and seeking support the same way they would to their close support network. They may want us to believe we are important, but we aren't. They often have an image they want to uphold, one way or another, and real life can interfere with that. I even understand that, I realise it's difficult to admit a change in reality when they've lived in having people buy into a different image of them for so long.
Isn't that it, right out there clear as day.
I wouldn't have gone on about this as it's only my perspective, but I was directly asked. I don't feel her viewers are owed any updates, as much as I've been frustrated more than once wanting one, because these "influencers" simply are not intending this to be any more than an indirect financial relationship. They are merely the spokesperson spinning a personal yarn to entice us to buy something. They can click off at any time without so much as another word. We would be very upset if we feel invested. They would not care at all.
This is the difference in how we are relating to the exact same content. This is why Tattle exists, to shine a light on this disparity.
The difference between Nicky and those like her is they have built their ‘influencing/jobs‘ on the back of building a personal relationship with their followers. Nicky started out as a young women with stage four cancer. She started secondary sisters and wanted to reach other young women like herself and Laura who had cancer and hadn’t yet had children or had young families. She never started purely as a means to work with Brands. She shares her personal life online, actresses don’t. I think once you start asking your followers for money you do owe them something. All her personal medical info? No, of course not, but very basic information such as I’m still in hospital isn’t much to ask. I do understand the above viewpoint though.
I understood where you were coming from. Getting people to “want more” from them was always the plan. They have carefully constructed, and engineered a “character” out of themselves which makes people feel a sense of fascination towards them. They can’t get the money if they don’t get the masses to be fascinated with them FIRST. It’s why she ignores, deletes and blocks people without a second thought.
It’s basically, “be fascinated or duck off.”
I am rarely “had” on social media, and never hand over cash to any “influencer” but even I feel a sense of “wanting to check” on a daily basis. It’s the type of “content” posted. The platforms dictate to creators want kind of content “sells” or performs better, and the way the platform is built—with features that create addiction so we stay on it longer because WE are the product. People staying longer on these platforms means they can drive up ad costs etc etc and Nicky is part of this cog.
The question of ethics come into play, when the “follower” thinks the connection is genuine, but the “content creator” has only ever seen it as a business relationship and a LTD company.
But you can’t get people to hand over their hard earned cash, and feel a “connection” to you if you tell people straight out the gate you only want their money.
So she has to tell them to “grab life” because she knows that’s what people want to hear, and it fuels her objective, and on and on it continues.
It’s all straight out of the “cult psychology 101” rule book.
Gosh, I remember the days where all you could do was send a wink to someone on Facebook, or add glitter to your MySpace profile. Can’t we just go back to that?
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I think your view is spot on. This sounds like the most plausible explanation of her weird behaviours.
We have now officially entered black mirror when people are flogging crap from their hospital room 
I will never, ever buy from a brand that sends a dying woman 'gifts' which are nothing more than exploitation for exposure. It's absolutely sick. Send her the dress and stipulate you don't want tagging, it's a gift nothing more. But ads make me sick. I know they all justify it as helping them still generate income but we all know it's nothing to do with that.
Also, the dress is ugly AF.
Bb did this and my god, towards the end she looked so ill and yet still ADs. Awful.We have now officially entered black mirror when people are flogging crap from their hospital room
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She's never going to change or spend her time privately with Alex and her family. Who in their right mind would order that dress after seeing a poorly woman, in hospital, holding a syringe driver try and model it. Not to mention it's also September. She'll remain the grabby, attention seeking madam until the end.
Yep. It’s vile isn’t it? Oh look p, says the sales company, she’s go blah blah number of followers an she’s dying let’s send her something so she can advertise to all those followers for the price of one measly dress and we’ll sell out!
It’s so immoral and corrupt.
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That’s when my opinion of BowelBabe changed the most. I just couldn’t understand why she was doing it??? It beggars belief!
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