MOD & FOD #32 Herringbone, it’s Clem. I need new locks, the skeletons have escaped

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Sorry I’m commenting so much, cackling at this page it’s exactly what none of them want 😂😂😂 We’re going to see clearly how the head boys / girls are raking in tens of thousands a post, this’ll blow Texan hun minds uno. The influencers creating good content for £100 a pop are going to revolt, I can’t wait for the drama!!!
 
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This is the post if any one is interested btw, I wonder if any one will comment?



Sorry I’m commenting so much, cackling at this page it’s exactly what none of them want 😂😂😂 We’re going to see clearly how the head boys / girls are raking in tens of thousands a post, this’ll blow Texan hun minds uno. The influencers creating good content for £100 a pop are going to revolt, I can’t wait for the drama!!!
Oh yes...Looks like Budget Clemmie is quite keen on this and has cashed in on it by doing an AD sharing the account.
 

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Oh yes...Looks like Budget Clemmie is quite keen on this and has cashed in on it by doing an AD sharing the account.
Wait, does this mean this account have paid her to post this?! Who the duck is behind it then if they have budget to pay influencers to promote it?!
 
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Wait, does this mean this account have paid her to post this?! Who the duck is behind it then if they have budget to pay influencers to promote it?!
Seems like they have. Don't suppose they would've needed to pay an influencer if they were an insider and/or already popular in the industry? They do seem to have gained the majority of their followers in the last few hours following the AD.
 
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Wait, does this mean this account have paid her to post this?! Who the duck is behind it then if they have budget to pay influencers to promote it?!
She probably helped set it up with one of her 'clients'. Can't remember exactly what she does but isn't it something to do with creating content or social media stuff? Good way of finding out whether you're being mugged off without straight up asking all your friends..

Edit to add- not sure how the ad thing works but would she have to declare #ad if she'd been paid by someone to help create it? Then went on to promote the page.
 
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influencerpaygap is an amazing find thank you! this could be the next wave of downfall...
 
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Budget Clemmie is so desperate, she’s like if I’m going down then you fuckers are all coming with me 😂

Edit : I don’t think she’s smart enough to create a page like this.
 
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Wait, does this mean this account have paid her to post this?! Who the duck is behind it then if they have budget to pay influencers to promote it?!
I don't think it is an #ad in that she has been paid to promote the account- #ad doesnt appear in her caption. I think she has used the "#AD" typography because the account is about how much influencers charge for ads. Wonder if its highlighted to her how much more others make than she does?
 
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I don't think it is an #ad in that she has been paid to promote the account- #ad doesnt appear in her caption. I think she has used the "#AD" typography because the account is about how much influencers charge for ads. Wonder if its highlighted to her how much more others make than she does?
Yep, I think she’s being meta!
 
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This is the post if any one is interested btw, I wonder if any one will comment?



Sorry I’m commenting so much, cackling at this page it’s exactly what none of them want 😂😂😂 We’re going to see clearly how the head boys / girls are raking in tens of thousands a post, this’ll blow Texan hun minds uno. The influencers creating good content for £100 a pop are going to revolt, I can’t wait for the drama!!!
I'd love to know the income value to the brand. Anyone ?
 
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Re management - I haven’t ever worked for one but very nearly did, I was at salary negotiation stage and had signed an NDA but then got unwell lolz. It was one of the big ones, and even then I was underwhelmed with their proposition and what they actually did for influencers? I really don’t think they’re getting strategic career advice at all, the impression I got is that it’s a glorified sales, legal & accountancy setup rather than an all encompassing digital branding service with PRs on standby or any sort of trend mining work going on to keep their guys at the top of the insta game?

Like I think where a lot of influencers are just normal people, not in a nasty way but rarely accomplished in a professional career so wouldn’t know how to handle a lot of the things expected of them? So their agency managers are holding their hands through negotiations, admin stuff like setting up Ltd companies and managing their work schedules, putting them in touch with accountants or using the in house teams etc etc?

Also having worked in advertising previously it is a wanky mediocre old boys network so I imagine Quentin who’s CMO at Unilever knows Jared who set up X startup so they just pass work to him which is how Jared signs XYZ influencers cos they know he’s connected, and then you sign second gen influencers off the basis of those before them and before you know it you’ve got a huge agency despite not really having much of a proposition / adding much value...

Like they don’t really use data in their pitches yet, the work I did as part of my interview process was take their existing pitch deck and say what I’d add in from a data POV. I was really underwhelmed at the deck I saw - it was still really fluffy and like, selling you the lifestyle / dream stuff with nice pictures and life stories and the basics like follower or view counts rather than anything useful like engagement rates, best times of day to post, audience demographics, ROI, historical campaign results, naaada. And a lot of this stuff is so easily accessible like every youtuber will have access to their own data, even us peasants can go into twitter analytics??

However it is a double edged sword. These agencies aren’t going to want to show weak results to CMOs who know they can get x reach or y conversion rate with £p spend through other channels so just switch off influencer campaigns? Or even worse they tell a glorious story of how well this microinfluebcer sells to their 25k followers, set ambitious campaign KPIs and then have to report that you’ve actually under performed on avg oops soz hun x I think they still want it to stay sort of soft and snake oil-y, more like branding/comms than an effective conversion channel.

I would love to hear more from people working in PR/marketing departments cos they’ve got the real knowledge but most importantly the goss! Sadly data is usually just a bolt on at the end of it all - and when it doesn’t say what they want they’ll just delete those slides anyway 😂
I often wonder how much reach brands THINK they're getting as opposed to how much they're actually getting. For example, if a brand uses 6 instamums with 100k followers each, do they think that's 600k people they're reaching? Or do they accept that most of the followers will be shared so they're reaching 100k people 6 times?
 
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This is the post if any one is interested btw, I wonder if any one will comment?



Sorry I’m commenting so much, cackling at this page it’s exactly what none of them want 😂😂😂 We’re going to see clearly how the head boys / girls are raking in tens of thousands a post, this’ll blow Texan hun minds uno. The influencers creating good content for £100 a pop are going to revolt, I can’t wait for the drama!!!
Blimey, 25k per ad? How the mighty have fallen. No wonder they’re desperate to revive brand SOD, they surely must be struggling financially now that their income from IG has been practically wiped out 🤔
 
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The fact she calls it ‘noise’ and wants to get in on the action....says it all! 🙄

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That’s really presumptive? My IG account only has 2 followers (my kids!) but it’s a genuine account and used to follow a selection of things that interest me. I deliberately don’t use IG as a social platform or to troll anyone. What a cow!
 
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I just want to add in to the DLAM party with the SOD’s that having met them all at a festival lash year I can confirm they are all arseholes of the highest order.

liar’s, snob’s, arehole’s .
 
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I'm sure it will depend how watertight each individual contract is, but I wonder if the grid post fee is usually contingent on the post remaining viewable on the account for at least x amount of time? When Clemmie was doing all that deactivating/activating nonsense and then finally removed her account, could it have put her in breach of contract with a number of those partnerships? Or can they take the money and then delete the grid posts whenever they feel like it? I'm thinking of FOD and his doomed AXA post that got blasted out of existance too, wonder if he still got paid.
 
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