I think they’re giving him enough rope to hang himself.
Or maybe Esther planned all this to get away....
Or maybe Esther planned all this to get away....
I agree but there’s still a part of me that thinks he might have been a very controlling/cruel man, hence the need to escape and not yet leave.I can't imagine that a kind, decent, sensible person - as Esther has been described by those who know her - would ever vanish on her loved ones.
She is mature, responsible and popular with friends. Her aunt said the family suspect kidnapping (or worse) because they know her character.
As to the rope, yes.
This concept of people running away from their lives seems to have become accepted since the movie Gone Girl.
In reality I can't recall a case of a woman choosing to run off. A few men yes. Not women.
Unfortunately in about 90% of all cases of missing people there tends to be an insurance policy and/ or another lover on the partner's part.
Ooof that was it! Totally got it the wrong way round in my post, my apologies. Was half watching it in my defence. Thank you so much for posting the link! Glad other people picked up on that too.It was BBC Breakfast 2 December. Here's the clip.
He said "I loved her for that...... " then switched to "I love her for that".
And there were some other things he said about her in the past tense.
Several men commented on this on Twitter. And women, but more so men.
He also said something odd at the end:
"I'm convinced she isn't up there".
How can one be convinced of that on December 2nd - day of this interview? Such early days.
On a very superficial note I wish the Lucie Blackman trust hadn’t changed its name to LB Trust Global. It honestly sounds like a business company dealing with business to business issues and offering solutions instead of a missing person’s charity trying to help find British people lost abroad.
That's only because the media hounded the their landlord simply because he was eccentric. Plus jo's boyfriend had an alibi. Hr was at his parents in sheffield.I think there’s something here. When they can rule out the partner straight away they always do. Remember Jo Yeates in Bristol? Her partner was never brought up.
A lot of times the police tell the loved ones what they can and can’t say on social media in these sort of cases. Sometimes that includes a total black out. This could be due to them getting lots of hoax information, they aren’t a big enough department to be dealing with this, a form a strategy (wanting to watch how someone behaves, wanting to see how the community reacts, etc) or other things. So that on it’s on, to me at least, isn’t a red flag at the moment.For me personally, what stood out to me on the joint Facebook account was how he was updating everyone often asking people to help search for her etc.. but then all of a sudden he announced that he’s been advised not to make any more updates. Very bizarre. I think the media as well as the cops need to re direct their attention and focus it back onto him.
Exactly my point- maybe the boyfriend can’t prove where he was?That's only because the media hounded the their landlord simply because he was eccentric. Plus jo's boyfriend had an alibi. Hr was at his parents in sheffield.
Aaah. That makes sense.I agree but there’s still a part of me that thinks he might have been a very controlling/cruel man, hence the need to escape and not yet leave.
I see his behaviour as that of a control freak. He was "in charge" of public info etc.A lot of times the police tell the loved ones what they can and can’t say on social media in these sort of cases. Sometimes that includes a total black out. This could be due to them getting lots of hoax information, they aren’t a big enough department to be dealing with this, a form a strategy (wanting to watch how someone behaves, wanting to see how the community reacts, etc) or other things. So that on it’s on, to me at least, isn’t a red flag at the moment.
The thing about the ‘forensic officer’ sleeping in her camper van is weird! The woman who took the photo said the police weren’t interested when she mentioned it. Plus it was several days after she had gone missing - why was there no police tape? Why not police officer guarding the van? There was no evidence of any police work being done on the van (a crucial bit of evidence) but they said that some random body found sleeping in there was a member of the police team? Either they are highly incompetent or they are lying for whatever reason.
I must read about Leanne Beardon. I don't know the case.I've read reports where police believe she may have plotted her disappearance. I think a lot of people who have done the world travel thing don't always want to go home or settle back down into normal life.
Reminds me if Leanne Beardon who took her own life after returning from world travel.
Glad you raised it as I wasn't sure many people had seen that clip. It's literally only on BBCBreakfast Twitter 2 Dec. Nowhere else on the web.Ooof that was it! Totally got it the wrong way round in my post, my apologies. Was half watching it in my defence. Thank you so much for posting the link! Glad other people picked up on that too.
On a very superficial note I wish the Lucie Blackman trust hadn’t changed its name to LB Trust Global. It honestly sounds like a business company dealing with business to business issues and offering solutions instead of a missing person’s charity trying to help find British people lost abroad.
The thing that really stands out for me is their website. Read the About Esther page then read the About Dan page.Interested to know which bits of the FB posts people found odd? I had a look just now and nothing jumped out to me as being obviously weird or worded strangely - maybe the bit about him going out walking...? There was also typo in one of them, but that’s about all I could see! The publishing of the media advisory note was a bit strange I guess but I’m not sure whether that was a common thing to do in high profile missing persons cases.
Some people think that’s what happened with the case of Ani Ashekian.I've read reports where police believe she may have plotted her disappearance.
Yes.Exactly my point- maybe the boyfriend can’t prove where he was?
It's also odd that she hiked back up the same mountain peak at 3pm when it would soon get dark.Very odd situation I have also been following closely ..... if she had a accident up in the mountains they usually find the body by now??? Seems weird!!!!
Coverts hide that very well. That's why they're so dangerous.I’m sure the truth will out, but I really can’t see anything in this clip that would make me think controlling vibes.
I gather your intuition screams about him and I think you're right.He is a total and utter creep whatever way you look at it. Said it from the beginning and will say it until he’s exposed for what he really is.
It's easier to split from a partner amicably than to abandon your dad, mother and friends to start a new life.The more details released about the case, the weirder it all is. Especially the timing of her going missing on the last day. I mean what are the odds of being away for a month with no incident and them something happening to you on the last hike. I get these things can be that random though.
This clip of them is odd, his face when she is speaking in particular. I get controlling vibes from him too. Maybe she just couldn't face going back, especially if the reports are correct that he wanted to end their nomadic lifestyle.
Yes he almost grimaces when she speaks.The more details released about the case, the weirder it all is. Especially the timing of her going missing on the last day. I mean what are the odds of being away for a month with no incident and them something happening to you on the last hike. I get these things can be that random though.
This clip of them is odd, his face when she is speaking in particular. I get controlling vibes from him too. Maybe she just couldn't face going back, especially if the reports are correct that he wanted to end their nomadic lifestyle.
I take you’re well qualified in this field?Coverts
Coverts hide that very well. That's why they're so dangerous.
They present a pleasant public face.
We have to look at their actions to get an inkling.
The guy you see there published a book this year describing the loathing they had for each other.
He also said all romance died in 2014.
Nice way to humiliate your partner - the world gets to read that.
I gather your intuition screams about him and I think you're right.
It's easier to split from a partner amicably than to abandon your dad, mother and friends to start a new life.
If he had threatened her then that's grounds to disappear but not forever.
Imagine leaving your entire life behind just because you're in a relationship with a creep? You'd have to try live without legal ID, without credit rating, without academic qualifications, ... you'd have no money. Nothing. No way.
Yes he almost grimaces when she speaks.
He told us in his 2020 book about the loathing and all romantic feelings having died.