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sassmaster3000

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By suicide, are you meaning to have jumped off something? Wouldn’t it have been more likely to have found/spotted her body if this was the case?
I’m not fully clued up on the details, so unsure the extent of helicopter searches etc. I just thought if she’d jumped, then surely her body would be much easier to find than if it had been hidden?
 
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Rhona

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That's fine. We don't all see things the same way.

How does the wedding pic affect things?
You said it was interesting that there was no mention of his mother, implying IMO that she had abandoned him. She seemed to be live and well at the wedding all be it a few years ago
 
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Johara

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The psychic replied:

1. Esther did not know the person. They had not met before.

2. It was sexual assault.

3. He lives in France.

4. He is 52 years old.
 
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SummerSky

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Do they say what route would make sense from a hiking perspective?
The opposite direction. The one that matched Esther's text. Head to Port da Glere.

The mountain experts tied themselves up in knots for months trying to figure out why she'd go that way (wrong route) and (misdirectedly) where she could be.
 
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Pippa M

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So what is happening ...seems a lot think it was the BF but we are only analysing what we think...have the police started a new search now the weather is better...or do they already know more than they tell..and are almost done with solving the case. Goodness,these things take soooooo long...
 
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SvenS

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First picture attached (from Websleuths)
I would not put too much faith in a photo from a forum without a verified source. But if true, that fits in with taking a dangerous short-cut route from the top of P du S to La Glera pass.
 
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Johara

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You said it was interesting that there was no mention of his mother, implying IMO that she had abandoned him. She seemed to be live and well at the wedding all be it a few years ago
Do you know it is his mum?

Could it be a step mum?

I just noted that in the media his dad went public & said I'm here for you son. No mention of his mum.

Usually a mother would be the first to show support publicly.
 
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Johara

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Do we know if she had any of the dogs with her? I know that have 6 or 7 dogs.
No dogs with her. They were with DC 40-60 minutes away in Arreau.

5 I think. Leela the one they adopted in Spain had puppies.

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Different topic - timing & risk

Very interesting.

I didn't know that the most experienced hikers do not go as high in the mountains as she did... that this is considered a v dangerous time of year to go when she did & as high as she did.

French police said:
"You must understand that at this time of the year, the weather makes it hard for us to completely check every area.

"It won’t be until the weather is better, ... that we will be able to say that we have covered all grounds of where she was supposedly missing.’’

‘’even the most experienced hikers that are born and bred in that area don’t go as high as she did at this time of the year. She has put herself in great danger by attempting something like this."

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Missing-hiker-French-police-reject-UK-press-speculation

If my boyfriend despite being a very experienced hiker, encouraged me to go hiking solo at possibly the most dangerous time of year I would question his care.

Her FB posts state that she pushed her physical limits to continue hiking on several days & would never have done so without his "support".

I wonder if she knew even those born there don't go hiking in November?? Because it's so dangerous.

Planning:

Timing -
Unstable weather each year in November curtailing search feasibility. November has a track record.

People -
Very few around. Even the locals avoid hiking where she was hiking ito height.

Well planned.
 
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SvenS

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One thing that has always bothered me, from the beginning, is the route Esther was meant to have taken. Because we only ever got that info from Dan.
Did this route information not come from the hiker she met on the 19th who suggested it?
 
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AlanB

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I haven't checked all the distances but isn't it something like at least an hour drive to the base of the French Pyrenees and about 4 hours walk to get where Esther was for Dan? It just seems a bit far fetched to say that he managed to find her.

I agree that while Dan says their relationship was fine there does seem to be doubts from Esther. For many people this is nothing strange in a modern relationship.
I don't think that there is any possibility "that he managed to find her" as you say, but could not the last phone call have arranged a rendezvous if he wasn't getting the answers he wanted ? If the Police come out and say he has an alibi and is not a suspect then that's fine, he wouldn't be the first innocent controlling partner and certainly not the last - but the Police are clearly NOT doing that, in fact in my view they are hinting at the opposite of that.
 
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palmer85

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They've only found one bone? And no clothing or equipment?
I think they have found one bone (not identified as what as far as I know) and a skull. The reports are confusing and contradictory, LBT Global say only one bone was found. Anyone got a definitive answer? If it was just one bone the mountain runner did well to spot it and think of it as "suspicious".


D’après nos informations, deux os retrouvés se sont avérés être « d’origine animale », mais le morceau de crâne, qui portait des restes de cheveux longs, était bien humain. Et ces analyses ADN et morphologiques réalisées par les spécialistes toulousains ont permis de confirmer qu’il s’agissait de celui d’Esther Dingley.
 
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Johara

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Oh that changes everything then doesnt it. Didnt she have their car though?
Guess she did have their car but he could easily arrange transport.
With online travel buddy apps it's so easy these days. When I was in Thailand a chancer asked if I was on one of those. I got curious and googled - there are tons. Imagine the buddy network a seasoned traveller has?

Those apps are anonymous too so he could get a lift with a stranger easily.

But aside from a car, it means he could get the bus etc too and pay cash, leave phone at home etc. It'd still be faster than the train from Toulouse.
 
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glynisb

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I think it depends on the individual, the kind of relationship they had. Some people are married or in long term relationships and are glad when the other one goes leaving them to find someone maybe sooner rather than later. Personally I think six months to a year is a good time
 
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