Michael Jackson

[Glaschelle]

According to the new documentary, he paid off a tomboy girl in the 1980s, he paid off the housekeepers son, he paid off Jordy Chandler, another boy was willing to testify but dropped out when Jordy wouldn't testify, there was the boy who appeared in the documentary that resulted in the criminal case and now Wade and James.

If this was the guy living at the end of your street, you'd be starting a petition to get him moved!!!

Man in the mirror is one of my favourite songs but I struggle to listen to it now.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

why would MJ beg young male fans to share his bed? beg their parents, pay them off with gifts.

MJ was enabled, he was a huge star back then with an entourage of enablers keen to keep his dirty secrets hidden.

I believe MJ was a paedophile. I was a big fan and went to see him in an amazing concert.

he shouldn’t have shared his bed with kids, he was proud of it, announcing how natural it was on more than one occasion.

Hiding in plain sight as they say...

 

[Youtubegossip]

Does anyone think Justin Bieber is an adult living with abuse as a child? He is def not right, and he was mixing in this rife world too when he was underage.

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...ley-Baldwin-admitting-hes-struggling-lot.html

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Justin definitely has issues but where they stem from who knows. He did go off the rails and fame got to his head a bit and he was doing a lot of substance abuse ( he’s admitted that as far as I know. But who knows if it goes deeper than just ‘not handling the fame’

Sadly many many child actors go absolutely off the rails or end up even worse and killing themselves or taking too many drugs etc

 

[Web30]

Someone who actually knew WR and the Casios.

https://medium.com/@d.karaty/michaeljacksonbetrayed-c9a9b773151b

So the girl involved had asked Michael to include her the same way he did her brothers when it came to hanging out, seems like she wants in on the story now. Also watching the interview her "abuse" happened at a time he was staying with the family and his own children were there. I dont believe any of them but her especially.

 

[White rose]

That's the first I've heard about Prince having vitiligo. I don't believe that's accurate.

Prince does have vitiligo. La toya also has the same condition.

 

[shellie]

The Cascio's have filed a lawsuit. I think this is the first time a girl has accused him.

Michael Jackson accused of child sex trafficking in new lawsuit

Edward, Dominic and Aldo Cascio and their sister Marie-Nicole Porte called Jackson a "serial child predator."

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Web30]

I doubt they were up having a party in the court room, I think anyone would find it had not to have a little seat dance to most music.
I didnt realise the documentary was played as evidence, surely they should have shown unedited footage that was concerning if they had to show anything related to Martin Bashier

 

[Reality_tv_lover]

In addition to the monetary benefits, they seemed starstruck and 'honoured' to be guests of MJ. I suppose they felt they had 'made it' by mixing with elites. Not that this excuses any of the parents.

Suppose it makes sense

 

[uwu]

Also, he wasn’t found not guilty he settled out of court to make it go away.

Well he was found not guilty in court twice.....

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Oh MJ was a raging nonce, just like Epstein, who had the finances, and power to buy people off. The actual shiver I get when you watch the Bahir interview and see him gleefully admitting to sharing a bed with a boy of 12 with cancer and talking in depth about it. Ugh. Those books of naked children the FBI found that he called “art”. Sick bastard. When you see about the court, the jurors jamming to his music etc as it’s played it court. It’s a farce

but the parents should’ve been accountable as well. Fuck pay outs, they should’ve been in trouble. At what point are you trafficking your own child by letting them sleep in a 40 year old man’s bed? Especially after previous allegations.

How about you watch some of the other documentaries instead of the Netflix one?

 

[Web30]

On watching the recent BBC documentary (and then reading various articles, that I did not pay attention to back in the day). I now believe that he was grooming and abusing children, I think it was likely that he was also falsely accused by some - but not by all of his accusers, I think it’s also very likely, that some victims haven’t and won’t speak out.

The recent bbc documentary is very informative, it’s not sensationalist- but presents the timeline in a way that was not clear to me, previously.
He comes across as a very manipulative, calculating man.

The time line of a few things were off, he released History while still married to Lisa marie, yet this made appear they were already divorced.
Thats the one that stood out to me.

 

[Web30]

The directors already planing on a sequal ? money motived?? I think so.

 

[Web30]

Of course one of MJ’s family wouldn’t just stick up for their uncle?

Don’t get me wrong I love his music as much as the next person but if ‘roger from down the street had boys sleeping over at his house for weeks on end. In his bed, with him’ we’d all be fine about that would we???

Not at all, and i dont think the sleep overs were right, i dont belive he abused anyone.

 

[Web30]

Exclusive Interview: Michael Jackson’s Niece, Who Dated Leaving Neverland Star Wade Robson, Explains Why She’s Sure He’s Lying

What if I told you that there was person named Brandi Jackson, directly related to Michael, who fully admits to having a long-term relationship with Wade Robson, one of the two accusers in HBO’s Leaving Neverland who now claims to have been horrifically sexually abused by the pop icon for seven...

www.mediaite.com

An interview with his niece. So intresting... After MJ died wades mum was trying to get them to hand the kids to her saying thats what he wanted.

 

[shellie]

I've never seen this before. Latoya always knew.

She did a few interviews about it including saying she thinks the reason he married Lisa Marie was to shut up the rumours. Years later she recanted. The rumour was she needed money after splitting with her husband, they gave her it and she publicly claimed she only said it because she was forced to by the ex.

 

[Tublet83]

Yeah I’m not convinced by the documentary having watched it.

However,
I still think a grown man wanting children to sleep in his bed isn’t innocent and even if nothing happened is crossing a HUGE boundary. No one would be okay with Roger from down the road doing it.

Also, didn’t one of the boys describe in great detail the marks on the underside of MJs penis which turned out to be accurate?

This is exactly where I am with it all as well.

The boy that identified the detail on his penis was Jordy Chandler who received the payout and then went into hideout

 

[Web30]

they actually changed their dates of abuse multiple times before it went to trial. Initially they claimed it happened pre-documentary but a video was found of them behind the scenes of the documentary talking extremely positive about Michael which they couldn’t explain away. They also claimed they were ‘held hostage’ at Neverland but again, they found that the mother went for a bikini wax and to the dentist during the time they claimed they were being held hostage so all the dates got shifted to after the documentary .

They also said there was a conspiracy for Michael to ‘get rid’ of them by sending them to Brazil in a hot air balloon. This is all mentioned in the court transcripts. The mother was charged with Fraud after this case, as the mj case actually flagged the fact she was claiming welfare checks whilst concealing her income sources. They also continually fundraised for money for Gavins chemo, whilst they actually had insurance which covered all his medical care. Jay Leno, Chris Tucker and a few other celebrities took the stand saying this family tried to get money out of them too.

Arr yes I remember the bikini wax story at the time. Load of bull the whole of it.

 

[ElaineDublin]

They left out all the scandal so it's not a real life biography. It's telling Paris won't go to any of the premieres.

In fairness she was very young when he passed away, she can’t pretend she knows him completely. Also parents protect their children from alot, especially a painful upbringing. I thought the film was good. Jafar was amazing but it was never going to be Oscar winning. People complaining aspects weren’t covered, the makers already advised they weren’t allowed cover a lot due to legalities.

 

[Web30]

I was a boy in Michael Jackson’s life, and nothing of what he's being accused of happened

I wanted to write and post this before Leaving Neverland premiered at Sundance last Friday. After all, I had a close relationship with Michael Jackson growing up and nothing of what he continues to be accused of has ever happened to me. I decided to wait because I was curious to see if the film […]

talunzeitoun.com

Very intresting blog post

 

[Tothemoonandback]

I think it’s really important to remember that lots of survivors of childhood sexual abuse never disclose it to anyone or some don’t until their abuser has been dead for many years. He was an expert at grooming boys and they felt like they were in a relationship with him and that it wasn’t abuse. They felt like they had to protect him.

I’m a very open and outspoken person but a few weeks ago I disclosed things that had happened to me 35 years ago and this was the first time I’d ever said it out loud. The reasons why people don’t disclose things even when directly asked are complex and I think that we shouldn’t question people’s credibility because they didn’t speak out earlier.

do lots of survivors deliberately conceal evidence from court (as adults)? Do they lie about various technicalities (eg claiming not to know about existence of the “MJ estate” even though they’d been emailing the MJ estate) in order to maximise financial compensation?

i’m not saying the accusers are lying about abuse. I wasn’t there and so I don’t know and never will. But their credibility is seriously questionable after how they have conducted their civil suits.

I say this as someone who has been through abuse myself.

The percentage of accusers who lie about abuse to police is absolutely miniscule. But I’d be interested to hear the percentage that lie when there’s millions of pounds at stake and the accused is dead.

MJ has had more (false) paternity suits against him than he’s ever had child abuse allegations. So the “no smoke without fire” statement doesn’t ring true.