Michael Jackson

[Ivegone]

You can't throw around accusations because of a feeling you have FFS Jesus Christ

If you didn't listen to music because an artist had allegations you wouldn't have fuck all to listen to

Especially all the rockstar from the 70s and 80s with questionable relationships with groupies teenagers underage girls

 

[shellie]

surely this can't go anywhere though hes been dead for 16 years

I think it depends on the state they filed it as some have removed statute of limitations. California for example passed a law where adult survivors have between Jan 1 2026 to December 31 2027 to sue so it possible. It will boil down to whether they have any evidence which they claim to have but whether that is true or not, I have no clue.

 

[White rose]

Also - worth noting - he had immense power and wealth to make these things go away. Something none of the victims have. When you hear the words of his lawyer who is on the Megan Kelly show the other day his words were very brutal. If you were a victim even contemplating accusing Jackson, you would probably curl up in a ball and never dare speak of it after hearing him speak,,because he literally said he would crush them.


Plus you have all of his fans who are…… VERY dedicated to the cause, let’s just put it that way. I mean you’re going to have a force of reckoning whether the accusations are true or false. Most of them must know this. That isn’t going be easy money. They are going to have his fans on their backs like a monkey on their shoulder for the rest of their life.

Michael put himself in this predicament. You do NOT have small kids over for sleepovers when you are a fully grown man. Did Madonna have 5-10 year old girls over for slumber parties, dressing them up like her and watching The Labyrinth? No. She was partying and shagging lots of people because she was a grown adult woman.

Micheal Jackson was also rumoured to be “ shagging “ lots of woman to, his former bodyguard who I will add didn’t get paid for his work stated Michael had woman after woman, he said the hardest thing to do was to sneak them in. Michael couldn’t party, he’s was so famous that he was flocked by thousands where ever he went.

These are all money grabbing parasites.. you may think that is harsh but it’s true. Do you really think if there was no money to be had they’d be spitting these lies.. what’s Michael legacy worth now? 3.5 billion?

I hope these lawyers that are defending Michaels estate rip their lies apart, maybe they could chuck in a few acting lessons to.

 

[Dexy]

I'd take the Casio statement with a huge pinch of salt.

Exactly. I’ve only seen a quick clip on Twitter but it’s ridiculous. Used the same footage to say he’s guilty ( a pillow fight ) as they used to show his innocence in 2005. The fake shocked faces and “ why is he playing with us? “ they should put their payout to acting classes.

 

[White rose]

I'd you are asking me whether I would tell an adopted person they are adopted if I knew and they didn't and they wanted to know, that would depend on the situation. Nothing will convince me they are MJs bio children but ofc I don't know as I don't know them and I don't know what they know about it all.

Paris prince and bigi have stated they are biological children of Michael, whether that’s true or not the children believe they are either way and it should be left as that. Blood or not Michael is their father

 

[Zozzat]

Have you watched the documentary itself though?

Yes I have x

I watched the documentary and I believed they had been abused. It's very convincing and upsetting. But I wanted to look into it further. There's a good documentary on YouTube called entering Neverland which is an eye opener. Wade is so shady. I just thought, Michael isn't here to defend himself and it's only fair I took a look at the other side x

 

[hehehe]

Another thing I've thought about the whole situation is, even some of the kids he befriended who support him to this day, all seem to say they lost regular contact with him once they grew up. Even if nothing sexual occurred, surely the concept of befriending kids, travelling on tour with them, being their best friend, then ditching them once they got too old, is abusive in itself?

This sounds more like the natural progression of life and would in large part have to do with the kids getting their own lives and other interests once they grew older, not so much MJ stopped calling because they got older. As kids they went to Neverland to jump up and down on bouncy castles and have fun. But teenagers won't be prioritising petting llamas, and MJ isn't going to help them write a CV to get a corporate job when they turned 20.

I doubt he was ever a best friend to any of these kids, I think that as adults they exaggerate their childhood connection to MJ for obvious reasons. By some accounts he was hardly ever there when sleepovers were happening and it was just kids running amok in his house. I think MJ found a safety blanket in having kids around and nothing more (which is also wrong, because kids are not supposed to be parenting some adult stranger).

 

[Ivegone]

I think it depends - on if they were convicted (or pretty much guilty without a conviction) and what they were guilty of.

But he wasn't ever found guilty of anything yes he was weird but why does it take a solid yes they've been guilty for someone to back off them and not just say he was accused therefore he's guilty

Justin and Blake how many people have called him names because of this and are still even though he did fa

How many people went off jonhnny depp and still probably hate him even though he was cleared

I said on the Ryan Reynolds page that celebs and men especially should be protected against accusations that ruin lives

 

[Web30]

Oh the NABL
Oh the NAMBLA book he claimed was sent by a fan.I think that was all that was found, right? I never heard of anymore. I studied that 2005 trial hard back in the day. The 2005 trial really struggled with any physical evidence to convict, especially in regards to any indecent images on laptops/ computers. I think Sneddon was quite disappointed in the lack of evidence despite searching for hours. I still think that the Gavin Arvizo trial didn't hold much weight, but Sneddon was so desperate to convict, that he ran with it.

From watching the Netflix doc, it seemed like it was the child psycotrist that gavin was sent to that thought he had been abused and thats why the police got involved. I always thought it was his mum that reported it. Sounds like ideas were planted, again no evidence was found.

 

[Dexy]

yes bad people can be victimised, I agree. It’s just the questionable timing of it for both of the two accusers. Safechuck says he remembered he was abused about a month after the Safechuck family business got sued for millions of dollars. Wade Robson claims he suddenly remembered the alleged abuse a couple of weeks after he got dropped and replaced (by Jamie King) for the Michael Jackson Cirque de Solei show. Wade Robson is now asking for the public to make donations to his charity registered in Hawaii. The minimum donation used to be 250 dollars from what I remember.
I’m not saying the two accusers are lying. I don’t know. None of us do. Just factors to consider given the documentary was so biased and included none of this information. I had to look at the official court files to find this out.

Have you watched SquareOne? It’s by a guy ( not a fan) who studied the first case and it really shows you how the first allegation was handled and how many lies were put out by the media like he ‘ paid them off’ the legislation behind it. It really opened my eyes to how much bs was written about this man. I also read the court documents.

 

[Web30]

I've seen a lot of interviews and articles post this documentary..and I'm convinced it's all about money. Wade and James definitely lying. Hopefully the truth will come out one day and clear Michaels name x

I read an article and wades mum way back in the 90s said they all went to the grand canyon that first vist then went back to neverland for another weekend. No meantion of wade not being with them at the time.

 

[thejungleismassive]

I've seen a lot of interviews and articles post this documentary..and I'm convinced it's all about money. Wade and James definitely lying. Hopefully the truth will come out one day and clear Michaels name x

completely agree with this comment.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

I don’t know how many children were there on each occasion - and neither do you. Likely on some occasions one child, on others more.

No, I don’t believe all of what the tabloids post and don’t believe that they are the gospel. I don’t believe much of what Michael Jackson said either. He was very manipulative and held a lot of power.
I don’t find any of it amusing, so don’t really get the laughing emojis.

Anyway,14 counts of not guilty so why are we still going on about it,17 years after his death FFS??

 

[Web30]

I watched the first episode and that woman from the channel 4 documentary in it, the one who was "best friends" with Janet arvizo, shes definitely making her money out of this crap.

 

[Upintheair83]

No, actually, not just the NAMBLA book. Please forgive me for not being fully versed on the defense of this pedophile, here's what the Google AI had to say. I'm sure you can look up the same and follow the citations.

I forgive you don't worry, but I do think its a good idea to get all the evidence involved instead of selected parts, after all that is what the justice system is for- to look at the evidence. You can't just convict someone because you 'think' they did it. Jeez, every weirdo would be in jail and alot of innocent people serving time.
So the book you screenshot here, is the NAMBLA book I'm talking about. And the magazines were porn magazines (heterosexual and homosexual) , that you can find in newsagents. They were used as evidence because Gavins fingerprints were on them, and they said that it was part of Jacksons grooming (that he allowed Gavin access to porn magazines).
And as far as I'm aware, no indecent images of children were found on any devices, I'm sure we would have heard all about them and what category they were if he had- it would have been headline news.

 

[Libertine1975]

MJ's lawyer from the criminal trial has done an interview with 60 minutes. He believes that MJ is innocent and comments on the trial.

 

[Littlemisslittle]

I think it’s all bullshit and you all need take a step back.. u know shit about any of it nor do I.. if some fucker said he’s just ate his shit and kissed his wife you would believe it just like some of these people saying they got abused. Stories don’t add up and why now? He prob slept in the same bed ect of some although that’s wrong in its self no matter who the child is but he didn’t have sex with them or masturbate as they stood there that cunt is a liar and u can see it and his mother to leave a child with him how she did if she did says a lot doesn’t it.. all fake and all u experts on here know fuck all like i don’t but just look at the people in the interviews it speaks for itself

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Shocking editing on the Netflix documentary. Surprised they are allowed to get away with it

 

[Prince fan 1999]

I can't listen to him anymore,and I was a HUGE fan. Used to get the piss ripped out of me because I love Prince too. Wasn't allowed to like both back then LOL.

I have a limited edition MJ opus sat in my garage that I have to try and sell 🫣

 

[ReginaPhalange3]

And you and I x

I think you and I have a similar opinion on the matter. I don't feel like he did anything but I can't also say he was innocent.

There are a lot of things that don't add up with the accusers and there are major credibility issues with most of them from what I have seen.

I try and look at a wide range of sources and not just things that defend MJ.

There is a clip with the 2005 accuser Gavin where he says about sleeping in Michael's bed and Michael does say that he (Michael) slept on the floor.

Ultimately we will never know for sure what did and didn't happen.