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AladdinSane

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Agreed. It's getting worse as the years go on, especially with AI now. The press are already running a photo of him with a boy. The boy has been photoshopped in a photo of Michael with an arm outstretched, showing his vitiligo in the original photo 🙄🤦‍♂️There was no boy🙄. It's relentless now. I'm glad people are seeing how they are manipulating they are now.
Which photo is this? I've tried Google but its not bringing anything up 😔
 

Tothemoonandback

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He just wasn't that into you?
that’s not usually how paedophiles operate though is it. It’s a disease and they usually cannot resist.
I know as with anything there will be exceptions to these general principles.
But if Culkin, Barnes, the boy in the article etc etc etc are all saying nothing happened. It does make this a very peculiar case. MJ wasted a lot of time with boys that weren’t his type? Or maybe he just wasn’t a paedophile?
Interesting new article in ABC news yesterday:

 

Web30

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They edited the part with Arvizo from the Bashir documentary. Taking out the part where Michael said he sleeps on the floor.

The artist who did the painting supposedly of the last supper,said it was in no way meant to depict that and it was taken out of context.
The media always miss that part out!
The "abuse" wasnt even happening when those interviews were filmed, it was supposed to have happened months after as well. There's a woman on tiktok who spent the day / night with Michael and the arvizos, this was one of the 3 days the "abuse" was meant to have taken place, very eye opening, she was a witness in the trail and claims micheal seemed over the whole family at this point.
 

Tothemoonandback

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I agree. Bad people can be victimised. It doesn’t make it less of a crime.

Also, so what if they’re after money? Who wouldn’t take up the opportunity to earn millions? If I was telling the truth about a terrible crime, I would still try to milk it for every last penny. I would feel like I deserved compensation, and it would be a reward for sharing sordid and painful details.
yes bad people can be victimised, I agree. It’s just the questionable timing of it for both of the two accusers. Safechuck says he remembered he was abused about a month after the Safechuck family business got sued for millions of dollars. Wade Robson claims he suddenly remembered the alleged abuse a couple of weeks after he got dropped and replaced (by Jamie King) for the Michael Jackson Cirque de Solei show. Wade Robson is now asking for the public to make donations to his charity registered in Hawaii. The minimum donation used to be 250 dollars from what I remember.
I’m not saying the two accusers are lying. I don’t know. None of us do. Just factors to consider given the documentary was so biased and included none of this information. I had to look at the official court files to find this out.
 

freda19

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Ok fair enough. I was asking genuinely and wondered how anyone could watch it and not believe them so I will look into these things.
I do think the argument of him “‘not being here to defend himself” is a weak one though. In fact him being dead is quite clearly what seems to be empowering people to speak - his power was too great when he was alive. People were scared.
And no one said that about Jimmy Saville - because he doesn’t have a devoted fan base determined to defend him.
But still, as I said, I will look into your links.
Generally the people who make these documentaries have an agenda. Or at the very least a deeply rooted opinion they won't veer away from. They won't include anything that might in any way support the person they are maligning because that doesn't fit in with how they choose to portray them.
Michael was very strange, there's no doubt about that but some of those making allegations are outright liars. Once their stories are picked apart carefully you find error after error. All those lies cannot be coincidence or just oopsies. A liar is a liar, and add financial gain into the mix and they become more of a liar to joosh up their tales.
 

Eirawen

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Those 2 guys swore that nothing happened to them and that Michael was innocent of sex abuse, suddeny they "ready to tell their story" and I smell a rat, its also quite handy that MJ has been dead for nearly 10 years and can't defend himself.
 

Web30

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Are they saying the date of the abuse ending was wrong? So he claimed it was 14 but it was later. How would he not know what age it all stopped? The article shows the planning permission for the train station being 93 not before.
 

Web30

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Naked child videos??!! Where have you seen this evidence? Iv never heard or read that he was found with naked child videos.
I believe a magazine was found in a briefcase with videos circuled that people could order, but no actual videos found.
 

Abominatrix

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Jeez,how many times now? The movie only goes up to 1988. BEFORE the allegations.🤦‍♂️
And regardless of any of that, a biopic is not a documentary, they're never completely accurate and fully fleshed out even with scandal-free figures. People are always freaking out about whatever the new biopic of the day is, whining that it's not 100% accurate and took major liberties, because they don't understand film storytelling and pacing.

Oh, and I was wracking my brain trying to think of an actual good biopic and I finally remembered one! Dolemite is My Name, starring Eddie Murphy and Wesley Snipes. It benefits by being a comedy, and also no rabid fan base not picking it to death!