Michael Jackson

[becca N]

How can you lie about the underside of a mans penis - who when checked matched the description - apparently there were marks where it had been bleached etc that you wouldn't know unless you saw it?

he also said he was circumsied and it came out that he wasnt

 

[Prince fan 1999]

MJ's lawyer from the criminal trial has done an interview with 60 minutes. He believes that MJ is innocent and comments on the trial.

Tom Messarau? Yes saw that yesterday. He talks ait of sense.

 

[AllSeeingEye123]

In fairness she was very young when he passed away, she can’t pretend she knows him completely. Also parents protect their children from alot, especially a painful upbringing. I thought the film was good. Jafar was amazing but it was never going to be Oscar winning. People complaining aspects weren’t covered, the makers already advised they weren’t allowed cover a lot due to legalities.

She was 11 she will remember him well. His only daughter isn't supporting this and one of her brothers didn't turn up either. It's very telling because they used to go to anything.

 

[MarshMallowMonster]

Watch also the Channel 4 ones for balance.

 

[BreakingBadWind]

I’ve watched it, too. The cast did well. Jaafar was brilliant!
“And so it continues…”

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Prince does have vitiligo. La toya also has the same condition.

As I said, first I've heard of him having it.

 

[Ivegone]

How about you watch some of the other documentaries instead of the Netflix one?

okay and yu knw this do you were you there in the room were you there everytime did you interview the kids and mj himself course not

and the fact he was cleared

 

[Mayday]

Does anyone think Justin Bieber is an adult living with abuse as a child? He is def not right, and he was mixing in this rife world too when he was underage.

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...ley-Baldwin-admitting-hes-struggling-lot.html

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I'm not sure if he ever actually met MJ...he would've been like 15 or so when he died and all of the 'pictures' I've seen of them together are of him after that so I think they're photoshopped. (You can tell by his hair as he had that weird bowl/swoop cut then)

I do think Justin has been through a lot though. His dad in particular seems like a typical stage parent. I also don't think being with Hillsong is helping as I have nothing against religion, but it seems more like a cult then just a regular Christian church.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

I can't believe the jurors danced to his music. Even if you're a fan, doing that shows the highest level of disrespect for the victims of the very serious accusations they had to deliberate on. Of course people like that were going to exonerate him despite the evidence being clear as day.

I only heard about the jury dancing to MJ on that awful Netflix documentary so I take that with a huge pinch of salt

 

[KINGAA]

Jafar really came into it during the Thriller and Bad eras. His dancing and mannerisms were incredible. The guy playing Joseph was really good too. I may have to see it again...

I just watched it, got free tickets - Jafar looked and sounded great but I felt like it looked nothing like him when he did Bad era just before the end. Thriller makeup was uncanny. The young boy was a fab little actor whoever he was. It was ok, preferred Better Man.

 

[Dexy]

"Apparently". Right.

Well Riley (Lisa Marie's daughter) has said in her own words in a recent interview "I loved him" when talking about Michael Jackson
Lisa Marie said of Jackson: "He was an amazing person, and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years we had together,"......"I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now. He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place."



Yes it's definitely wrong and puts everyone in a vulnerable position. Hanging around with children in bedrooms should never have been acceptable and his family or someone close to him should have stopped it. It's unclear that he was actually sleeping in beds with children, potentially just sharing a room from time to time. But still. Wrong. Certainly in western culture but I have listened to others who say it's far more normal in other cultures. It's definitely not acceptable in the Uk and there's a reason for that!

But Jackson grew up in a tiny house and loads of siblings and then on tour on the road, sharing bedrooms with his brothers constantly. So you can sort of see the whole arrangement seemed more normal to him. He had no 9 to 5 job so the idea of bedtime or normal hours didn't apply. His choreographers would often say Jackson would usually practise dancing all night and sleep in the day. He had people who would come and stay at Neverland for weeks at a time (people like Mark Lester and Diana Ross' family including son Evan). They all attest to be giving free access to the whole of Neverland including Jackson's bedroom. So it seems as if it wasn't treated like some sacred room for sleep. More of an activity room on two stories that people would play and sleep in.

Exactly. I only believe stuff when I hear it from the horses mouth i.e Lisa Marie’s actual kids or Lisa Marie herself. She said a million times she loved him and they had a normal, healthy relationship, abet with its problems how many celebrity relationships don’t ( ?! ). They had a lot in common both being from showbiz families. I can’t wait for her book to come out, although no doubt some of that will get misquoted and twisted.

I love a good debate but if you’re quoting the papers that’s not good enough for me.

 

[flakylibra]

Does anyone know if there is any truth behind Jackson’s dad getting him chemically castrated?
(There’s also the argument that a person doesn’t age beyond the year they became famous)

Not that it would excuse his actions in any way but it would explain it to some degree.
If he did have the mind of a child he could have possibly just originally wanted to play and spend time with people that had the same mindset and intellect as him. Also it’s not uncommon for young teens to explore their sexuality together/their bodies/practise kissing etc. So maybe he thought he was doing that.

BUT then again, the actions accused by the men in the documentary are very graphic and advanced for what a teen (in my opinion) would be exploring with friends/others his age.
And again I’m even saying teen which is older than the the boys he chose to spend his time with.

It’s just something that keeps bothering me about this. Was he a child in his mind?

 

[Upintheair83]

Why are you talking about children abuse? There were always only BOYS. There is well documented history of his special friends- holding hands, sitting together,…. Always boys, boys, boys…. I loved his music as a kid/ teenager/ young woman. As a mother of three sons,who saw these pictures, I turn off the radio when I hear his music. His eccentricity is no excuse for the abuse. His fame Is still protecting him. You don’t want be the mother of the boy in Bashir interview. For me the police interview with the boy is enough to believe the children-boys.

Well the Cascio girl has accused him too, there's a recent video where she clearly details the abuse.

 

[shellie]

surely this can't go anywhere though hes been dead for 16 years

I think it depends on the state they filed it as some have removed statute of limitations. California for example passed a law where adult survivors have between Jan 1 2026 to December 31 2027 to sue so it possible. It will boil down to whether they have any evidence which they claim to have but whether that is true or not, I have no clue.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

This is giving me nightmares. I'm surprised this actor didn't sue MJ for stealing his act. Also MJ called one of his kids Prince and dyed one of their hair blond. Those kids of his got lucky. Came from a lab and set up for life.

Prince was the name of his grandfather.

 

[annanuttall]

There's a sequel to Surviving Neverland if anyone is interested.


It on channel 4 on 18th March


Trailer:

 

[Mayday]

The Neverland Insiders Who Spoke Out Against Michael Jackson

Inspired by Dan Reed’s devastating Leaving Neverland, a look back at the handful of Jackson friends and family members who questioned the singer’s relationships with young boys.

www.vanityfair.com

Another man also came forward a couple of months ago but the article seems to be going around again:

'Michael Jackson called me Rubba Rubba in bed and I now realise he abused me'

EXCLUSIVE Michael Jacobs-hagen was just 14 when he joined the singer on a string of tours but now he's a dad himsef he realises he was abused

www.mirror.co.uk

I watched the second part and really feel for James...I mean I feel for Wade too but his family rub me the wrong way - mostly his mother. James's mother seems a bit dim but Wade's mother actively moved him out there after Michael saying 'leave him with me for a year'.

His dad's suicide is horrible and it seems his brother carries some guilt over it. Wade also comes across as less affected by things but I don't know if thats just because he seemed to throw himself into work.

 

[Libertine1975]

Found an interesting YouTube video by This Case Takes Place. Seems like a fairly neutral breakdown of the claims imo.

 

[Dexy]

I'd take the Casio statement with a huge pinch of salt.

Exactly. I’ve only seen a quick clip on Twitter but it’s ridiculous. Used the same footage to say he’s guilty ( a pillow fight ) as they used to show his innocence in 2005. The fake shocked faces and “ why is he playing with us? “ they should put their payout to acting classes.

 

[White rose]

As I said, first I've heard of him having it.

I’m a white person with vitiligo, not as bad as others, I’m already pale skinned but when patches of very light skin started to appear on my bum,breast and under arms I took my self to see a dr due to history of skin cancer in family, I was told vitiligo. I’d never ever heard of this before.