Lucy Letby Case #67

[Tofino]

Who is Eirian Powell? Have we heard her name before?

She did give evidence once

Lucy Letby Case Wiki

This wiki is about the trial of Nurse Lucy Letby who was charged with the murder and attempted murder of 17 babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital, between June 2015 and June 2016. There are 22 charges in total, 7 murder and 15 attempted murder. Lucy pleaded not guilty to all charges and...

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[sebanna]

Who is Eirian Powell? Have we heard her name before?

She's the neonatal manager and gave evidence at her trial.

So Lucy and Karen became best buds and enjoyed socialising together. I wonder how long Karen spent listening to the doctors and considering their expertise. NICU is quite a niche area of nursing if Karen Rees wasn't a neonatal nurse would she full understand the consultants concerns. Why was the management not worried that the death rate had soared and was no where near normal shouldn't that automatically trigger an investigation.

 

[MmmB777]

Who is Eirian Powell? Have we heard her name before?

Yeah she did actually take the stand. She went on about what an excellent nurse Letby was. Then BNE asked her if letby had been there for every death and unexpected collapse on the unit and she said yes.

 

[Tofino]

I wonder who else went to Karen’s leaving do in March 2018, that Lucy attended, nearly a year after the hospital referred the cases to the police.

Would Karen have known the police were involved, was she senior enough? I can’t believe she didn’t distance herself. Is anybody at that hospital capable of staying professional?

 

[sazzt]

I wonder who else went to Karen’s leaving do in March 2018, that Lucy attended, nearly a year after the hospital referred the cases to the police.

Would Karen have known the police were involved, was she senior enough? I can’t believe she didn’t distance herself. Is anybody at that hospital capable of staying professional?

Not any of the management
Bunch of Bastards

 

[SkiesOfBlue]

Times article about Karen Rees. Of course she believed (hoped!) Lucy was ‘innocent’!!! Worst thing that could happen to Karen Rees would be Lucy being found guilty as she now faces a ton of scrutiny that’s completely justified. Still not taking an ounce of responsibility though.

Lucy Letby nursing boss: Calculating killer duped me like so many oth…

archived 25 Aug 2023 06:02:47 UTC

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She had believed until the conclusion of the trial that the nurse was innocent

“I have no doubt at all that she was guilty of these despicable crimes, having seen the reports of the evidence,” she said. “I did not attend the trial so I had an incomplete picture until the verdicts were announced, and more detail provided.”

Rees said she had refused to believe in Letby’s guilt because she had had regular meetings with her after her suspension from the neonatal unit in June 2016, and had “witnessed her in complete distress, crying and swearing her innocence”.

Rees said: “She was very convincing. I now know that this was a calculated and successful attempt to make me believe her story, and I was deceived, as were so many others.”

It is understood that Rees regularly met Letby for coffee in the two years after her suspension, which she said was part of her job, and that the pair met socially outside work. She had told Letby “the intention was to get her back on to the neonatal unit”, according to The Sunday Times.

When Rees retired in March 2018, four months before Letby’s arrest, the killer bought her a leaving present and attended a small farewell party.

Rees, who lives in north Wales, said she had understood that the most life-threatened babies had been placed in Letby’s care and that no performance problems had been raised until Brearey contacted her on June 24, 2016, demanding her removal. She said that the neonatal unit’s manager, Eirian Powell, had assured her that there were no concerns about Letby. Powell has not responded to requests for comment.

When approached before the verdict was delivered but after all the evidence in the trial had been heard, Rees’s sister-in-law, who lives next door to her, said that the former nursing director believed that Letby was innocent.

A source at the Countess of Chester said: “There are still a small number of people on the neonatal unit who think she is innocent. They are finding it difficult to believe she could have done it, because for so long they were fed the narrative that Letby was being blamed by consultants who were making excuses for their own mistakes.”

This boils my blood. Therein lies the answer. She believed Letby and let that cloud all professional judgement. Didn't she ignore emails re requests for meetings and was chased up or am I mistaken? 'no performance problems had been raised until Brearey contacted her on June 24, 2016, is a bare-faced lie

 

[Treesy19]

Karen bleeping Rees

 

[Aberscot]

But bet you Karen gets to keep her pension pot, disgusting trying to make excuses now

 

[Treesy19]

She is still working in the medical field is she?

 

[Tofino]

Hang on a minute, we have previously been missing some detail and now that article says Letby was suspended for two years, and it was after that Karen met her for coffee . So when did they suspend her, when they went to the police (May 2017) or after her first arrest (July 2018)?

This makes me think she’s saying she kept meeting her for coffee after her first arrest, whilst she was on bail until her third arrest when she was charged, as that was a two year period! I think that’s worse than the leaving party prior to arrest.

 

[InTheDollsHouse]

She did give evidence once

Lucy Letby Case Wiki

This wiki is about the trial of Nurse Lucy Letby who was charged with the murder and attempted murder of 17 babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital, between June 2015 and June 2016. There are 22 charges in total, 7 murder and 15 attempted murder. Lucy pleaded not guilty to all charges and...

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Ms Powell recalls the review meeting was "very upsetting" for Lucy Letby and herself.

Super professional there Ms Powell. Really putting the safeguarding of the patients first, you know, those teeny tiny babies.

 

[justhereforanatter]

Just managed to catch up on everything..glad that she had the sentencing she deserved (WLO - the only thing she deserves for her horrific acts) but feel for the families who didn't get justice for their babies and hope their cases can be brought to trial again. I do wonder if more cases may come soon as there hasn't been as much in the media about her background etc as I was expecting, unless I've missed things or that is still to come.
So many parents must now be thinking back on their experiences in NICU where she may have been working and wondering if their babies could've been harmed or worse. She certainly had obsessions with certain babies/families, the Facebook adding/searching/messaging is an absolute no no and completely unprofessional.
In terms of the photo of the baby without any oxygen support on, i have to say I have a similar photo of my own baby that I took whilst the nurse cleaned underneath the mask and changes tapes etc (literally removed for a matter of seconds and she asked if I wanted to take the photo so I had my phone ready etc and it was very safe). This obviously depends on the type of support needed - hi flow oxygen, non invasive or invasive respiratory support, in some cases it would absolutely be too dangerous but I just wanted to put it out there in case anybody had similar photos and were concerned reading the article. Knowing what we know now about Letby everything of course comes into question about the babies in her care and it could well have been something sinister on her part, who knows, but it is something that can be done safely in the right circumstances.
I do wonder if maybe something happened during her training like a sudden or traumatic emergency situations and she thrived from the attention (she would have had a lot of support especially witnessing something like that as a student). She was definitely seeking out attention from her colleagues. I also wonder if she attacked multiples to try and suggest it was a genetic issue to explain away these unexpected and unexplained events. Sadly these poor families will likely never know why.
And finally I truly hope that all those who tried to brush this under the carpet are held to account because they sadly enabled a lot of this by ignoring the concerns that were raised. I hope that massive lessons will be learnt and this will bring about change within healthcare services and the way in which investigations take place.

 

[daisynoon]

She is still working in the medical field is she?

No, Karen Rees is running a holiday home in Wales with her new husband, surname is now Moore.

(Alison Kelly, nursing manager, is the one who was recently suspended)

 

[sebanna]

So Countess of Chester's NNU would be expected to have 2 deaths a year but had 15 and managements main concern was that Lucy was upset with a cross dad. Why didn't they order an independent review to go through these babies' notes to try and work out what was actually going on? Whatever it was it desperately needed identifying, if the consultants were making mistakes then the hospital needed to deal with it, if the unit was unstaffed then that needed resolving, any staff member at every collapse needed removing, instead they wanted to pass the problem on to Alder hey.

 

[starshine89]

Hang on a minute, we have previously been missing some detail and now that article says Letby was suspended for two years, and it was after that Karen met her for coffee . So when did they suspend her, when they went to the police (May 2017) or after her first arrest (July 2018)?

This makes me think she’s saying she kept meeting her for coffee after her first arrest, whilst she was on bail until her third arrest when she was charged, as that was a two year period! I think that’s worse than the leaving party prior to arrest.

how does a junior band 5 nurse get so pally with those so high up top it’s mad.

I’m a band 7 nurse and the top managers like Karen Rees etc equivalents wouldn’t even know my name let alone go out for coffee or attend leaving drinks I can’t get my head around it

 

[sebanna]

It made me laugh that as Karen didn't attend the trial so knew very little and thought Letby was innocent. I have not attended the trial but there is loads of information being reported which proves how guilty she was. Obviously Karen has never heard of Tofino's wiki.

 

[kabukigirl]

Ms Rees frequently went for coffee with Letby in the two years after her suspension. When she retired in March 2018 - four month after Letby's arrest - the nurse went along to her leaving party.
Feck no wonder Letby thought she would get away with it and be back to work if management were meeting her for coffee and believing her sob stories, shame she didn’t take the time to listen to the consultants.

wonder if it was the same coffee shop trip that Tony Chambers attended - the doctor source said Letby met with Tony and senior members of the management team in a cafe. Tone said it never happened ..

 

[Tofino]

wonder if it was the same coffee shop trip that Tony Chambers attended - the doctor source said Letby met with Tony and senior members of the management team in a cafe. Tone said it never happened ..

And I wonder if that happened after the first arrest too. Let’s hope they weren’t tipping her off with anything!

 

[MmmB777]

I love Dr Gibbs to think a hero like him is ending his career wracked with guilt

 

[F1Grid]

The whole thing smacks of NHS HR.

1. Grievance procedure being run by a director of nursing who is out for coffee and socialising with the person who's raised the grievance.
2. CEO of the trust delivers the grievance outcome, meaning there's nobody that the consultants are actually able to appeal it to.
3. Medical director brings in external organisations who tell him repeatedly to order a specific investigation. And he doesn't.

Imagine this tit in a private company with a competent HR department And when it's concerning bleeping babies dying in someone's care no less.