Sky news are reading the victim statements, I've read them here but hearing the words said is so powerful, those poor, poor parents.
Sky news are reading the victim statements, I've read them here but hearing the words said is so powerful, those poor, poor parents.Not watching, you can’t see the victim statements so just reading. The sentencing will be televised though, apparently at 2 although possibly at 12.30.
Death Penalty would be good for her
Evil excuse for a woman
There’s obviously at least 8 of them who feel strongly enough to want to turn up to court to see the sentence delivered.
I think they may have decided if it was a murder charge, which it was originally downgraded from.Yes. So it's extra baffling to me that they couldn't reach a verdict.
A lot of the criticism of this case has been the lack of direct evidence. But this is a case where there WAS direct evidence - Ravi Jayram saw her standing over baby K doing nothing whilst she deteriorated. BNE staying silent for the relevant time period in court was also one of the most powerful moments for me. I just don't get it.
No, they chose to stop attending when LL did.Sorry if it's already been mentioned, these threads move quickly. Does anyone know if her parents are in court today?
People are obsessed with the idea that evil people can be "fixed". Some people are just evil, no explanation, nothing - they were born that way.I’m so fed up with hearing people say that they are waiting with bated breath to hear what the judge says, and ‘there must be some reason’ why she did this. There is no fixing someone with this level of sociopathy. But they are waiting for a big revealI don’t hear anyone saying there must be some unanswered puzzle as to why Rex Heuermann killed women.
I know what you mean, we want to ‘humanise’ them.Thanks, this is really useful information and fully understandable.
I suppose I was asking because part of me felt it could verge on disrespectful by just referring to them with a single letter - almost like unmarked graves where the name of someone who died isn't known.
But your post makes me feel better now as it's clearly been done for several very good reasons.
So sorry for your loss @Miss M. I can't imagine what you are going throughNew to this thread - I was following early on but then my own baby passed away and I found it too hard to keep up with the trial.
I’m at work with tears in my eyes at the thought of something so cruel being done to an innocent and defenceless childAs someone who has lost a baby, albeit not at the hands of another ‘person’ (words I would like to describe her with are not appropriate) I will hold the parents in my heart forever.
I would love to know these poor babies names to be able to honour them in some way, but I know they’re not being released.
I’m so glad she is getting what she deserves and I hope someone gets hold of her in prison somehow.
Shame we can't buy one 🩵🩷
Sadly except one of them, most of those directly involved in the cover up have 'retired'. I hope that they have their NHS pensions stripped from them.All the hospital execs who failed to listen to the consultants warnings should be sacked
I suppose why drag out the inevitable for all of those involved? Get her locked away in Cat A, in general population and let them do to her what she deserves.Ohh sentencing at 12:30 and not 2 pm. That's better.
I've thought the same about N's haemophilia tooI think they may have decided if it was a murder charge, which it was originally downgraded from.
‘LL attempted to murder her, and she did die, but it’s not murder’ is a confusing position to start from really. And I think anything particularly confusing this jury wasn’t happy to give a verdict on (same with N, where I’m convinced but think the haemophilia got in the way of the jury deciding).
This might seem very minor but I cannot understand how she got the sheet home in pristine condition. Even as a student, any A4 size piece of paper I put into my portfolio would always get messed up a little. She must have taken such care to get that sheet home in pristine condition.Mr Johnson asks if Lucy Letby wishes to change any of her answers from yesterday. Letby: "No."
Mr Johnson asks if handover sheets were handed out to student nurses.
Letby said she would have handover sheets as a student nurse at some placements, but in the neonatal unit she cannot recall specifically. She tells the court it was not standard practice at the neonatal unit to hand out handover sheets to student nurses "for the time we are talking about".
Mr Johnson says one of the handover sheets, dated June 1, 2010, was in a keep-sake box with roses on the box, when Letby was a student nurse [Letby having started full-time employment at the hospital on January 2, 2012]. Letby says she cannot recall it.
Mr Johnson asks what is "unusual" about the handover sheet, and how it differs from the others.
Letby is unsure what Mr Johnson means.
Mr Johnson: "It is in pristine condition."
Letby: "It's the original?"
Mr Johnson: "Yes."
Letby: "Ok."
Thanks for replyingNo, they chose to stop attending when LL did.
Just to note it's unlikely she harmed any babies while being a student as you have to be supervised for procedures so there wouldn't be much opportunity for her to interfere. Just one small silver lining in this dreadful case.Mr Johnson asks if Lucy Letby wishes to change any of her answers from yesterday. Letby: "No."
Mr Johnson asks if handover sheets were handed out to student nurses.
Letby said she would have handover sheets as a student nurse at some placements, but in the neonatal unit she cannot recall specifically. She tells the court it was not standard practice at the neonatal unit to hand out handover sheets to student nurses "for the time we are talking about".
Mr Johnson says one of the handover sheets, dated June 1, 2010, was in a keep-sake box with roses on the box, when Letby was a student nurse [Letby having started full-time employment at the hospital on January 2, 2012]. Letby says she cannot recall it.
Mr Johnson asks what is "unusual" about the handover sheet, and how it differs from the others.
Letby is unsure what Mr Johnson means.
Mr Johnson: "It is in pristine condition."
Letby: "It's the original?"
Mr Johnson: "Yes."
Letby: "Ok."
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