Lucy Letby Case #6

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There must be previous incidents in my opinion but they can only focus on a limited time frame. I would assume this is why they were advertising for the detective to join the operation as other offences are likely.
I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen too.
 
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My work phone is a Samsung and looks exactly the same as my normal phone and I have my own case on it and a picture of my dog as the background so I can spot it, a patient could easily assume it was my personal phone.
 
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There must be previous incidents in my opinion but they can only focus on a limited time frame. I would assume this is why they were advertising for the detective to join the operation as other offences are likely.
Agreed.
I also wonder if we will hear about other things LL has done in her life prior to this like harming animals or anything that could indicate she had an evil side.
 
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My work phone is a Samsung and looks exactly the same as my normal phone and I have my own case on it and a picture of my dog as the background so I can spot it, a patient could easily assume it was my personal phone.
Mine was a Samsung too. An observer wouldn’t be able to tell it wasn’t a personal phone.
 
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I don’t know what that is but we certainly didn’t use our own phones where I worked. We would have got into a lot of bother for doing that. In the community I had both my own phone and my work phone with me.
It's a secure app for NICU parents for updates.
I think it's easy to forget it can vary from trust to trust in regards to staff having work devices.
Some trusts simply cannot allocate the funding to that resource.
The hospital I used to work at couldn't afford for us to have ward ipads/phones for the community team.
But the neighbouring trust could. Not everyone will have a work phone.
 
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I think it’s clear that some trusts use personal phones and some don’t. I don’t think we need to go over it all day 😂
 
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On this thread at the moment the amount of messages I want to reply the ❤ Reaction too but I get absolutely terrified I’m going to do the 😂 instead it’s like a second of panic every time.
 
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And if this was the first baby, then 16 minutes to be pretty confident about what she was going to do. Didnt spend any time to hesitate, think twice or wait to get settled into her shift.
You make a good point for both arguments. If she is guilty, this makes it seem that she knew exactly what she was doing, her head was set, planned etc etc.

Then if that wasn't enough, she attempts to do the same, so shortly after with Child B...any normal person would think, 'it will look too suspicious'.

There must be evidence leading up to that point, was she edgy, did she make any online searches?
She probably did that so that nobody would suspect her because she only just come on shift .

I have had a photo taken by a paramedic on her phone. I was being blue lighter to hospital and they asked if something was normal for me? I couldn’t see what she meant due to my injuries so she took photos of it on her phone and showed them to me. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just that it happens
that would be to show the hospital staff . But this is a photo of dead babies it’s completely different . No reason at all why it should be on her phone
 
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I haven't read all of the previous threads but what are people's thoughts around her looking people up on fb? I've seen comments on social media about how weird it is but honestly I've looked up families on Facebook to see how they're doing. We had some young patients die by suicide and I've often wondered how their parents are doing and occasionally searched for them. It certainly doesn't mean I've killed them, I know lots of colleagues who have done the same. However the few families I've looked up, I remember the details of their care very well, I think its a bit odd that she felt so drawn to look them up but barely recalls their children.
 
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I haven't read all of the previous threads but what are people's thoughts around her looking people up on fb? I've seen comments on social media about how weird it is but honestly I've looked up families on Facebook to see how they're doing. We had some young patients die by suicide and I've often wondered how their parents are doing and occasionally searched for them. It certainly doesn't mean I've killed them, I know lots of colleagues who have done the same. However the few families I've looked up, I remember the details of their care very well, I think its a bit odd that she felt so drawn to look them up but barely recalls their children.
Personally I think it is completely inappropriate for any professional to search a patient or their family but I’m not someone who ever looks anyone up. It just doesn’t interest me in the slightest.
 
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Would hospital staff be likely to have a mobile? I would assume that part of the reason for a community member of staff to have a phone would be safety (lone working) which wouldn't be a consideration for hospital staff. They didn't when I worked in a hospital (in admin) but it was over 10 years ago I left so things will have changed since then.
They did when I visited PICU. OK, as someone said, different trusts, different systems. The designated nurse could text (or phone) without leaving the bed space. It would save the ward landline ringing constantly. A Dr, or whoever, could text back advice. There would also then be a record.
Of course, things were different in an emergency situation.
 
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I haven't read all of the previous threads but what are people's thoughts around her looking people up on fb? I've seen comments on social media about how weird it is but honestly I've looked up families on Facebook to see how they're doing. We had some young patients die by suicide and I've often wondered how their parents are doing and occasionally searched for them. It certainly doesn't mean I've killed them, I know lots of colleagues who have done the same. However the few families I've looked up, I remember the details of their care very well, I think its a bit odd that she felt so drawn to look them up but barely recalls their children.
I think it's very inappropriate, but some people are nosy/inquisitive.
 
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Personally I don’t like the idea of a medical professional looking me up on social media after I’d been in their care. I can understand the curiosity but for me as a patient I’d hate that.
 
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There must be previous incidents in my opinion but they can only focus on a limited time frame. I would assume this is why they were advertising for the detective to join the operation as other offences are likely.
Yes I agree it's a 3year job to investigate further, bit naughty putting it up now tho
 
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It happens a lot . My cousin is a nurse and the things she has done are questionable .
She has got her friend antibiotics god knows how .
She told her grandad wife that he was in hospital for the day after he collapsed at work and was told he had weeks to live after finding out he had cancer . She told his wife when She wasn’t his dedicated nurse in the hospital he didn’t even know that she knew . The whole family fell out with her as it caused him so much distress . He wanted to tell his wife himself

she has told me about people I know attending a n e and one was a male friend she told me he was attempting to commit suicide . Another was a male friend and she told he was on drugs and police attended

I told her it’s so wrong to tell people things like that . During COVID at the very start when it was really bad she was mixing wards . She visited her boyfriends grandad because family was not allowed to visit . She took it upon herself to visit him on the COVID ward on her break she then got COVID and visited my Nan . Not long after that my Nan died from COVID .
 
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Police seem to have a lot evidence to keep bailing her.before the actual charge. Puts her in very bad position. Police must of had evidence to arrest in the 1st place, on 1st arrest they find the note, daily and handover sheet at her home that we know of, 2nd arrest police add more attempted murder charges let her go,
 
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There must be previous incidents in my opinion but they can only focus on a limited time frame. I would assume this is why they were advertising for the detective to join the operation as other offences are likely.
I agree. Most killers (esp mass murderers) build up to their first kill. I’d be very surprised if there are no previous incidents that come to light.
 
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Sorry everyone when I said drs have their phones in their pockets I didn't mean personal, Ive always assumed they just had work ones! When I've been at Addenbrookes Hospital they've always read my chart from a mobile or ipad so I just assumed it was a work phone and they could therefore take photos on there.

I guess as people have said it varies Trust to trust and also what is held on the ward too.

As if the world wasn't a scary enough place without having to worry about people using hospital images inappropriately 😔. This world sacres me!
 
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