It’s one of Lucy’s ex colleagues, Janet Cox. She’s on the neonatal unit shift schedule. So i presume she was friendly with Lucy and has supported her parents. It sounds like she’s there most days.
It’s one of Lucy’s ex colleagues, Janet Cox. She’s on the neonatal unit shift schedule. So i presume she was friendly with Lucy and has supported her parents. It sounds like she’s there most days.From what many have said on here who have gone for a nosey on in, her parents are looking quite down trodden.
I’ve missed the talk on it, who is the third person who is sometimes with them? Another relation or some friend?
She knew the date. Fucking scum bag.Just been on websleuths and they have posted up transcript from most recent podcast...so Lucifer went with DrNoName to London on 8th June 2017...2 year anniversary of Baby A's death. Is that just a coincidence or a sick, premeditated plan by Letby to commemorate his murder?
If she’s a narc he could’ve just been another person took in and manipulatedJust listened to the latest podcast.
However much I want to know what Drnoname looks like I hope we don’t ever find out, not for his sake but his poor wife and kids.
what I don’t get is how he continued to see her after she’s been removed from the unit, surely by this point he knows why and what all the other Drs are saying about her. I wondered when he finally seen sense and finished it.
But what an embarrassment for him, I wonder if he’s moved far away to get away from the gossip
I bet he was in trouble too as he was sending messages outwith Work about patients.
This trail she’s up for 7 murders and 10 attempted murders, dread To think how many more she’s harmed
Very well stated. You organised my thoughts. I think she is guilty as I can be reasonably sure based upon the evidence I have read, in the reports. I started this trial from a position of making a decision after hearing the evidence. So far, the evidence would lead me to determine beyond reasonable doubt, she is guilty. Today’s cross with the draft sympathy letter, the admission of deliberately attempting to garner sympathy from the jury regarding her attire when she was arrested was the final nail, alongside the previous crosses where her evidence juxtaposed with the parents of baby N about the blood and telephone call, finally her married ‘friend’ … those poor babiesAll of this a million times over. There is soooooo much we clearly aren’t privy to due to the reporting which became clear in the cross.
Also, these people want to believe her account on the stand during her evidence right? During this same evidence she was confirmed she agreed with the expert evidence and that a number of these babies did in fact due from what they have concluded. But her defence is just that it wasn’t her. HOW can you possibly disregard all the other bits of evidence?
It would be like them finding multiple stabbing victims & the same last person to always be with them, who had searched them all on Fb, taken personal things from them & kept them, to be texting friends about accidental stabbings, drafting sympathy messages for someone that was still current alive but not actually being caught physically stabbing them & their defence, among their many lies, being “yes but it wasn’t me”. How reasonable is it that there was someone else? It’s not reasonable at all.
It’s not reasonable here either.
Also, the bit where she put the form in about the plug being off & it possible it could be accidental air embolism for one of the babies? I thought she didn’t know what one was? I swear she said that at one point
I think him raising his ‘error’ regarding a piece of previously accepted evidence being incorrectly accepted as truth was him ensuring that the trial was not at risk due to her later claiming she had a right to appeal.I think he’ll probably be more hopeful that the verdict and her performance in the stand is no reflection on him. I know it’s his job to defend her but I think if found guilty he’ll be as happy to see a baby killer banged up as anyone else would x
I know what you mean but I don’t know what it is. It’s like some sort of come down because of the build up then the intensity of what BNE went through this morning.Does anyone else feel weird after today or is it just me. Idk what I mean but I feel really out of sorts
Just weird init. Feel anxious and all sorts dunno why cos none of this affects me personallyI know what you mean but I don’t know what it is. It’s like some sort of come down because of the build up then the intensity of what BNE went through this morning.
I wonder if divorce proceedings in progress has prevented him being named, his children and wife would have been at risk of being identified by the wider public should we know his name. His children deserve protection at the very least from forever being synonymous with the trial of LLJust listened to the latest podcast.
However much I want to know what Drnoname looks like I hope we don’t ever find out, not for his sake but his poor wife and kids.
what I don’t get is how he continued to see her after she’s been removed from the unit, surely by this point he knows why and what all the other Drs are saying about her. I wondered when he finally seen sense and finished it.
But what an embarrassment for him, I wonder if he’s moved far away to get away from the gossip
I bet he was in trouble too as he was sending messages outwith Work about patients.
This trail she’s up for 7 murders and 10 attempted murders, dread To think how many more she’s harmed
I actually had a cry earlier, it felt like for the first time I started thinking that she's not going to get away with it. It felt like such a positive day for the prosecution (which is ironic since it's the defences case!)I know what you mean but I don’t know what it is. It’s like some sort of come down because of the build up then the intensity of what BNE went through this morning.
I’m a bit confused, either St Nick should have punched, ‘so you admit he was your boyfriend’ or said ‘your boyfriend had no idea of your friendship -‘d how important dr no name was, did he’ I’m a little perplexed and confused by the absence of follow up to her answer of ‘“yes” after each of the statements he put to her about the positive elements of her life, job-home-car-boyfriendI suppose she wasn’t lying about Dr NN being her boyfriend. He can’t be her boyfriend when he’s somebody else’s husband!
I wish he’d said, remember to forget you have a shredder, as that paper document is yours to keepCatching up very slowly but how lovely of BNE to give her such a beautiful document for her paper collection as a parting gift. You can almost imagine him and his team chuckling away to themselves as they thought and made up that one.
Its just legal talk to say "may have" because a Judge shouldn't presume to know whether the defence is going to definitively call other witnesses as they can change their mind and just not call anyone with no notice given.May have? is this verbatim from him? Does the judge not even know if the defence have further evidence?
What can I say, I must be very naive! I knew they weren’t naming some of the nurses so I thought it must be something like thatI can’t believe people were shocked he was married I always thought’s he was that’s why they can’t name him
And people will still happily batter Maxine. Someone in my town was falsely accused of being her under a new identity and she got SHIIIIIT. She basically had to move because of it. (It was definitely mistaken my best friends sister was in prison with Maxine and confirmed the woman wasn’t her).She won’t ever be getting out if found guilty.
Holly and Jessica’s murderer is very much behind bars. Maxine Car was only found guilty of perverting the course of justice and released a few years after.
Sorry to quote my own post, I’m not a narc or a baby killer! My father was convicted of a crime when I was a teenager, he was named in the papers. My maiden name, his surname is fairly unusual, that being listed along with his location and name of his employer meant that I and my brothers were inadvertently easily identifiable. We went through hell at school for being his children, teachers and peers would reference it. Everyone knew and his/our name and it was impossible to hide. I married young and despite divorcing, I refused to relinquish my married surname.I wonder if divorce proceedings in progress has prevented him being named, his children and wife would have been at risk of being identified by the wider public should we know his name. His children deserve protection at the very least from forever being synonymous with the trial of LL
Maybe the pictures were all in there with the agreed evidence but the prosecution have collated them into a nice little album for effect. That way it’s not new evidence, it’s just presented in a satisfyingly damning way.View attachment 2229441
If she was only handed this folder this morning, is this new evidence? Maybe this is what the delay was this morning.
but it makes me wonder why are they introducing it so late. Did they have it all along and delayed it as a tactic? But then I thought defence have to have all the evidence.
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