Why did she ramble on post-it’s and why keep the post-its? I can imagine she wanted to get those thoughts out and on paper but to keep them? They show she was pretty messed up.
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Just caught up on today's podcast. I always imagined Dr NN to be a young guy, single, doing a bit of flirting with LL that might have ended in romance had she not been a murderous psychopath.
Then today I hear he's married??!!! And that they didn't just exchange a few texts, they went away together!!! And she maintains they're just friends. Yeah right. No wonder he doesn't want to be named lol.
Then today I hear he's married??!!! And that they didn't just exchange a few texts, they went away together!!! And she maintains they're just friends. Yeah right. No wonder he doesn't want to be named lol.
He has children too.
I hope for their sake they aren’t old enough to know about any of this.
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Wow, was having a scroll through Reddit and some people discussed that they couldn’t convict her beyond reasonable doubt for the crimes presented at this stage. How and why? Struggle to comprehend that mindset. The sheer magnitude of this situation, the contradictory evidence she’s proposed to dispute agreed facts, her bare face lying in a court of law, etc. Must be conspiracy theorists at this point.
I’ve said a few times about her 2 boy cousins! I’d be interested to know what the dynamics was with them. I reckon she was a spiteful little tit with them, and they hated her but was made to make nice with her!
I'm only up to page 37, which is good as I started on page 14 this evening. I've not been able to follow the thread today.
I just had to comment on the drafting of the sympathy cards. My god, what a nasty, nasty person she is.
I just had to comment on the drafting of the sympathy cards. My god, what a nasty, nasty person she is.
It's called smart phone pinky and I have a permanent groove in my finger from it. It is seriously permanently deformed from spending too much time holding my phone
OMG I've just looked and I have it too!!!It's called smart phone pinky and I have a permanent groove in my finger from it. It is seriously permanently deformed from spending too much time holding my phone
Really clear groove as well. Waaaah! 
Lying about being arrested in your pjs and having a relationship with someone isn’t going to do you many favours is it when the majority of your defence is “I didn’t do it believe me just because I said it”. Why the duck would you believe she didn’t do it just because she said she didn’t when she lies about the tiniest things. Evil witch.
Just when you thought this thread couldn’t make you scream anymore
also I think (even though I’ve been wrong on the married Noname and her taking the stand), that it will be unanimous GUILTY and they will only deliberate for a day max
Huge day today. The draft sympathy card note to all three triplets, reading that felt so damning. And the lies, lie after lie which she couldn't explain. It feels like one of those situations where you tell one lie which you need to cover up with another lie and before you know it, it's all just bull.
It's awkward to watch it unfold and harrowing when you remember what she's trying to cover up.
The jury will need to consider each individual count. I do think that will take a bit of time as there are several and each one needs to be looked at individually.
BM can't really do much now I don't think? After all the contradictions (including of agreed facts) and the lies being admitted.
I think the 'is the prosecco ok?' comment was just them trying to minimise the effects of the socialising photos. Like it was OK for her to be out and enjoying herself, she was allowed and wasn't breaking rules. That was my take on it anyway. Rubbish defence, but they don't really have much left in the tank at this stage. As we saw with the lame Mel text, that didn't prove any friendship.
It's awkward to watch it unfold and harrowing when you remember what she's trying to cover up.
The jury will need to consider each individual count. I do think that will take a bit of time as there are several and each one needs to be looked at individually.
BM can't really do much now I don't think? After all the contradictions (including of agreed facts) and the lies being admitted.
I think the 'is the prosecco ok?' comment was just them trying to minimise the effects of the socialising photos. Like it was OK for her to be out and enjoying herself, she was allowed and wasn't breaking rules. That was my take on it anyway. Rubbish defence, but they don't really have much left in the tank at this stage. As we saw with the lame Mel text, that didn't prove any friendship.
This is what I don’t get. And the people on fb buying it and making out she’s so hard done by. I’m gonna spoiler this because it’s quite horrible but I mentioned I was charged with malicious communications. When I was arrested I was dragged by my freshly cut open wrists so you can imagine how I fume when people are simping over “poor little Lucy”, I’ve also had huge male coppers pin me down by my bleeping head (after ripping my hair out trying to drag me by it) because I wouldn’t speak to them (I was sat in a corner traumatised after my ex had strangled me until I lost consciousness).What da foook was the point of lying about being taken away in her pyjamas anyway. Did she think the sympathy would wash. Oh my god she got arrested and taken away in her Jimmy jammies that’s absolutely shocking poor her. Nasty mean police. Fit up. Let her go.
Wow thank you, that is damning. Strange it wasn't mentioned before-I assumed they'd already presented everything. She must've been fuming she didn't get to the last one, sick witch.
The cross has given us so many extra details for each baby in the case. Just think of the details we didn’t get from the expert witness evidence! The reporting at really crucial times was so poor for lots of them. Barely any detail on some expert evidence at all. The jury have heard lots more than us and I still just can’t understand where the doubt lies really. All of these little lies, the paper work and searches are absolutely entwined with her guilt and as bad as they appear but the witness and expert witness accounts will have been hugely compelling. To say there’s reasonable doubt when you’ve had an expert radiologist that has studied 500+ cases of air in children post mortem and they’ve said the air in these babies was more than he had seen on all but a handful and all those had explanations like road traffic accidents. There were extremely unusual amounts of air without there being a solid explanation of how it got there, that it “stands to reason” that the air was administered. There was a globule of air by the IV for baby D. According to the defence, she’s supposed to have died from the sepsis she had all but recovered from and had no soft signs of. There is a huge liver injury that is a match for purposeful harm. There are two babies pumped with synthetic insulin, it doesn’t matter how the blood was held, the insulin is there and there is a very clear medical record of prolonged hypoglycaemia. There are multiple doctors, nurses and parents saying there were rashes. Screaming. Bleeding. How many times have we heard doctors and nurses say they’d never experienced things like it, could find no natural cause. How many texts of disbelief that another baby that was doing well had died. How many problems when the designated nurse took their break or a parent had finally gone to go and get some sleep? How many times have parents been had to have been wrong about the very last moments of their babies short lives? And all the while she has sat there listening knowing full well that she is evil, she’s guilty, she did this.
Seems like even the green haired woman is struggling to come up with an excuse for writing a sympathy note for a triplet who didn't die.
That's how you know LL's bleeping guilty!
That's how you know LL's bleeping guilty!
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