I'm not gonna listen to their podcast because that too masochistic for me. But I want to throw in that I had a childfree wedding, and guess what? People who had kids that they couldn't part from had to stay home. The end. We were really young, and just didn't want that extra problem of dealing with kids. And since it was OUR wedding, and WE were paying for it, that's what we did. People who judge other people for so harshly for things that are none of their business (ie childfree women and weddings) are so weird.