Her grief tourists are starting to get off at the next stop - probably realising she has nothing to offer. She’s gone down to 854 overnight too
I think the OP was saying that some people label everyone who is selfish or behaves like an hole a narc. I’m sure you have a good case for your diagnosis, not just because it is clearly someone you know very well. I’ve only met one person with NPD - they stood out a mile and matched every single indicator.
When the term narcissist was used when I was younger it was linked to the legend of Narcissus and was used to mean someone who loved themselves a bit too much/ too vain. Using it in a different context definitely seems a relatively new thing
Rather like we’ve seen on this thread, diagnoses of autism and ASD are readily thrown around with not very much to back them up. If you have never met a child and what you know of them is through a very filtered lens (figuratively and literally) it’s just not possible to make a measured assessment.
Likewise there seem to be many people claiming a diagnosis of ADHD or wanting their child labelled with it because it seems to me they want an explanation for why they behave the way they do that isn’t that they’re just badly behaved, won’t listen, won’t pay attention.
With screen time - phones, iPads, TVs, computers, consoles - absolutely rampant it’s no wonder that some children are just over stimulated and find it hard to wind down or concentrate on something more sedate. It doesn’t mean they’ve got an illness or a disorder.
Nanny Crack gets a lot of stick, but if you are a single mother of 3 and you cannot cope is it really that awful to ask for help from the father of your child? Lauren was sent to live with her father who loved and cared for her. Her mother didn’t abandon her on a doorstep with strangers, she was still there and still visited her and Lauren visited the family home too. To say she was not wanted is sensationalist, quite untrue, and something peddled for sympathy and to excuse her crappy behaviour.The camera is reversed the bruise is on the other eye
LG is self obsessed because she was emotionally neglected as a child and sadly not really wanted by her own mum. This means she clings on to the wrong people and is always looking for validation. The C4 therapy show was very sad, LG just can’t deal with the pain of a lot of her childhood so is always trying to find something to fill the gaps. I don’t think she’s got a PD, she’s not very bright and she’s had a really tit upbringing so she makes awful decisions that don’t make sense. Unfortunately none of the men she chooses ever have her best interests at heart and end up being abusive to her (which she thinks means they love her) I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s been low level depressed for ages. She never takes advice to stick to a more normal regular lifestyle as she’s a product of her own creation now - famous for all the wrong reasons and she invests way too much time trying to turn public opinion around or photoshopping herself. It’s a very sad life
I always find it amazing that she says "her mum gave her away" like to any passing stranger....as you say it was to her dad...and now being a parent, you would think that would give her some insight as to how difficult to manage three might have been in certain circumstances. I think she has the most enormous ego, mixed in with abandonment issues, and I doubt she will ever changeNanny Crack gets a lot of stick, but if you are a single mother of 3 and you cannot cope is it really that awful to ask for help from the father of your child? Lauren was sent to live with her father who loved and cared for her. Her mother didn’t abandon her on a doorstep with strangers, she was still there and still visited her and Lauren visited the family home too. To say she was not wanted is sensationalist, quite untrue, and something peddled for sympathy and to excuse her crappy behaviour.
The father of the eldest 2 children has left and was not in their life hence why Lauren was the one to move.
Would that have been difficult for a young child to understand, absolutely. As an adult who has received therapy, hopefully less so.
Has she even had therapy though? I get how as a small child being sent to your dad can be seen as being abandoned and you can take that with you into adulthood. I don't know if the whole thing could have been handled better to give Lauren some peace of mind, it seems the adults probably could have done more. However, that is all over and done with and can't be changed. Whatever her parents have done or not done is their responsibility but its the adult Lauren's responsibility to deal with the impact of it. She owes it to herself and her daughter to get help if its still impacting her adult decisions. I get bored of the "my mum didn't love me" shite from people who wallow in it.Nanny Crack gets a lot of stick, but if you are a single mother of 3 and you cannot cope is it really that awful to ask for help from the father of your child? Lauren was sent to live with her father who loved and cared for her. Her mother didn’t abandon her on a doorstep with strangers, she was still there and still visited her and Lauren visited the family home too. To say she was not wanted is sensationalist, quite untrue, and something peddled for sympathy and to excuse her crappy behaviour.
The father of the eldest 2 children has left and was not in their life hence why Lauren was the one to move.
Would that have been difficult for a young child to understand, absolutely. As an adult who has received therapy, hopefully less so.
I guess we can define rejection differently. If someone rejected me I would take that to mean they wanted nothing to do with me, not that they made a difficult decision to move me out of a family home into another family home and continued to visit weekly…I think the worse part of the rejection from her mum was that she had a child after Lauren and kept that child in her care along with the elder ones.
This is clearly your neutral observation point as a fully grown adult though, it is not how a 4 year old felt and it’s not how Lauren recounts it. Lauren absolutely felt rejected, abandoned and unloved. Lauren was the one ‘given away’, not the siblings and she has really struggled to understand why it was her although she understands now her mum was unwell, she missed her siblings and it was probably really confusing. she’s very very clearly brought this through her life into making terrible relationship choices and doesn’t have a healthy understanding of what love really is, or means. This is not an ‘excuse’ it’s just a background as everyone asking why she is this way. Look at it from a child’s POV, it was traumatic and those events often influence us as adults. I don’t even believe Lauren is angry at her parents at all, she just seems to often come across as sad when she talks about it. Even in interviews she doesn’t say her mum didn’t love her, she acknowledged she was unwell I think she’s forgiven her mother but it’s had a lasting impact on LG’s self esteem and she is all over the place either severe dysmorphia, trying to trick people what she really looks like, having terrible surgery etcNanny Crack gets a lot of stick, but if you are a single mother of 3 and you cannot cope is it really that awful to ask for help from the father of your child? Lauren was sent to live with her father who loved and cared for her. Her mother didn’t abandon her on a doorstep with strangers, she was still there and still visited her and Lauren visited the family home too. To say she was not wanted is sensationalist, quite untrue, and something peddled for sympathy and to excuse her crappy behaviour.
The father of the eldest 2 children has left and was not in their life hence why Lauren was the one to move.
Would that have been difficult for a young child to understand, absolutely. As an adult who has received therapy, hopefully less so.
I believe she claimed to have therapy in the past, she was also pictured with some YouTube therapy guy for a while, and she was also paid to have therapy albeit we don’t know how long for when she appeared on the C5 show ‘In Therapy’. She had the money to pay for it at one point in her career.Has she even had therapy though? I get how as a small child being sent to your dad can be seen as being abandoned and you can take that with you into adulthood. I don't know if the whole thing could have been handled better to give Lauren some peace of mind, it seems the adults probably could have done more.
I believe that she missed her siblings a lot and that was part of why she felt sad about itI believe she claimed to have therapy in the past, she was also pictured with some YouTube therapy guy for a while, and she was also paid to have therapy albeit we don’t know how long for when she appeared on the C5 show ‘In Therapy’. She had the money to pay for it at one point in her career.
This is what she says in her book about moving to her dad’s house:
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Jesus, that sounds like any child's dream! I actually think she'd be MORE sane if she had stayed with her mum- it sounds like her dad gave her an amazing life and that's why she always feels like she's entitled to it by doing absolutely duck all. She was spoilt, and it still wasn't good enough for her.I believe she claimed to have therapy in the past, she was also pictured with some YouTube therapy guy for a while, and she was also paid to have therapy albeit we don’t know how long for when she appeared on the C5 show ‘In Therapy’. She had the money to pay for it at one point in her career.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Lauren Goodger! Before The Only Way is Essex Lauren was just an ordinary girl, working as a secretary and trying to build a life with her long-term boyfriend Mark Wright. Now she's constantly followed by the paparazzi; she can't wear a bikini without her weight...books.google.com
Only the filtered versionDoes she have a good relationship with her dad now?
All this psycho analysis of BYG’s childhood grates on me a bit. I had a very unconventional, at times traumatic childhood that let to daddy issues in my early 20s. My mum had bi polar when I was a kid so I lived between my dads and my nans, my dad had a couple of stints at HMP. Other stuff happened in between. I then lost him and my nana within 10 months of each other - my nana just before I was about to get married. Have a made a few crappy life choices ? Absolutely yes, do I expect people to excuse those choices because of what happened when I was a child? Absolutely bleeping not! That tit is on me! I made the conscious decision to go to therapy and keep going until I had dealt with it all.
BYG is nearing 40! She should be accountable for her own actions and choices. Maybe she is just thick, entitled and not a very nice person because that is who she is. It’s not nanny cracks fault, it’s not her dad, or mark or anybody else. It’s on her![]()
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