Socratestrap
New member
I see Guido's purse as a cheap canvas tote bag that Kylie has lovingly screen-printed with a vintage image of an accountant's office - a bit gauche but the image is vintage!
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Rena Solomon
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Such an unpleasant experience, unfortunately there are a lot of ‘dusties’, as I’ve heard them being called, out there. As for Kylie, after watching her Love parallel videos I have a hard time sympathising with her. It was almost a soft porn in certain moments. Before watching those I remember thinking that I could never have her job because I really don’t like being in front of the camera. However that is just a fact, some reality, it is neither good or bad, just is. It doesn’t mean that because I don’t like it she can’t do it, or that she is somehow worse or superficial or anything else like that. People are different basically.
Needless to say though, the Love parallel episodes got me thinking that if she gets nasty comments about her body, as awful as it is, it certainly has been provoked. I don’t wish it upon anyone, these people exist unfortunately.
This was one of the first times I thought there was something wrong. Outside of the whole story being cringey I thought that she must really like herself a lot in order to act out these ‘almost make out’ scenes with the guy. That was the first time I thought ‘Wow, she really likes attention, both from men and from the viewer, all eyes must be on her’.
VeeJayBee
VIP Member
Eccomi! It's sweet that you noticed my absence @Denise0211
Yes, I am a bit bored of K although it's more as if nothing she does surprises me. I've realised that she is now concerned with knocking out visual fluff for which I am not the intended audience.
However I do think it's important, as @Flybynight has said, to documentdocumentdocument and I really should make more of a contribution to that.
The views of this thread are at 20K, I don't know if they are unique users but still, it's not inconsiderable.
I might have been AWOL but that didn't stop me thinking about here while on a visit to the V&A...
My problem with her is that she well knows how harsh, difficult and often absurd it is living in Italy. Surviving, nevermind thriving.
During her video describing her failed clothing line, she clearily shows she knows. It was near impossible for her to function and she quit.
Recall another video where she describes herself living in a windowless apartment with electricity about to be shut off at any time.
Yet she peddles this fantasy about moving to Italy, realizing your dreams of romance, finding your place in the sun.
Is Italy a beautiful country; Yes it is. Are there many reasons to want to be here; Yes there are. But she knows the truth of what it takes and, yet, diminishes it in favour of selling a dream, knowing that’s what her viewers want to hear.
Everyone has fantasies about Italy, just mention the word to nonItalians and they swoon. But instead of giving good information about what it actually takes, she misrepresents reality to sell what sells.
Why would she do that; to benefit herself without regard to the harm it does to others, to gain Utube revenue, to gain Patreon support, to rent an event space that is closed during Covid and otherwise remote, to reno and rent chicken coops and pigsties for potential renters, to promote a dream that she, herself could not realize without exploiting gullible viewers who pay her for the privilege of emulating what, for them, would be a nightmare if they followed her advice.
That is why she is so threatened by more astute viewers in her comment section and in this forum. It would disintegrate and vaporize the fantasy that only she benefits from.
She has figured out a way to gain revenue by promoting a lie. She is no innocent. And that is why it is worth tracking what she does.
Yes, thank you! That is exactly how I was feeling…bored! Which is a shame, because the landscape is beautiful, but as you said creatively there is nothing to gain from it. It is just a cheap copy of some great old movies. I really enjoyed her Christmas videos, because she at least was showing something different (like how to make vintage ornaments). Also, the videos are shorter than they used to be. Maybe that’s what happens when you are in a good place personally, you start losing your creativity.
He does get around, but today is my day to scout and explore solo;Jerry, did you take Bambi to the beach, or is he too young?
My partner has a reborn doll, so we go along like a caravan !
She made the mistake of bringing him onto the bed to comfort his crying at night, so guess what; all the covers are in the laundry.
People on the street stop in their tracks when they see him, can’t believe his size. He is very playful in the house, chases a ball and brings it back already. Collects what he finds on the floor; plant leaves, napkins, my bills, a roll of electrical tape. Time to do a major clean for him. Has a big personality in a pint size frame.
Musee D’Orsay is my favourite in Paris.
nostoneunturned
Well-known member
Here is the hang (installation) of the Australian native Fresco at long last …please excuse the light it was a beautiful day and the sun was low in the sky when we had finished ….the new owner is thrilled !
Originally there job was to make a mural on the wall seen below
however for fresco you need masonry not cement
Sadly we will have to send the rescue cat back to the shelter ..he was too much for my mother …he gave me a couple of nasty scratches and bit my poor old mum on her hand , it is all swelled ; she had to go to the Dr and have a te tenia injection …I realise I’m over sharing but ..I’m mortified (for mum and the cat ) because it happened the day after I left for the city and she didn’t tell me
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He was 90% a good cat but he was pretty intense … rubbing up all the time …I feel guilty …sucks completely
Originally there job was to make a mural on the wall seen below
however for fresco you need masonry not cement Sadly we will have to send the rescue cat back to the shelter ..he was too much for my mother …he gave me a couple of nasty scratches and bit my poor old mum on her hand , it is all swelled ; she had to go to the Dr and have a te tenia injection …I realise I’m over sharing but ..I’m mortified (for mum and the cat ) because it happened the day after I left for the city and she didn’t tell me
.He was 90% a good cat but he was pretty intense … rubbing up all the time …I feel guilty …sucks completely
Blueberry_Muffin
Member
Looks like her patreons have gone down to 811 easn't it 847 not long ago, hopefully people are catching on.
Denise0211
VIP Member
Lol, I think they were just poking at her film themes. But really, the people who comment on her page never cease to amaze me.
nostoneunturned
Well-known member
Kylie Flavell: Fenced in or free; Fans Fleeced, Followers Fatigued a Travel Vlog No Guarantee.
For anyone without CNN (i.e. me lol) I found the episodes free online at sflix.to, i haven't watched yet so not sure about the quality though
PlinyinTorquay
Chatty Member
Yes, and I thought the modestly-priced chicken dinner was equally an attempt to seem relatable following Splendido Portofino.
Denise0211
VIP Member
I second everything here. Stop focusing on herself and put the focus on the actual subject. Travel, culture and food interest me most. Each region is so different from each other at points they seem seperate countries. It would be interesting if she presented this, also for her loyal fans who might think every Italian eats pizza and spaghetti daily.
Dead horse
I keep beating, but it seems to me the 12 ep Tuscany series was never finished. Seemed to barely begin, aside from those few IG posts in Pitigliano. I have no idea why she promised a "summer series" if she hadn't filmed most of it. The last few filler eps were so boring despite her sycophants gushing otherwise.
Denise0211
VIP Member
Ahahahaha!
I’m watching out of boredom. Her demeaned is so odd, she spends most of the time talking to camera looking at the floor, she doesn’t seem happy and I am finding the dynamic between them increasingly strained, at one point she asks him when they got the kyack, he says last year (or something, I was hardly paying attention) and she asks no what mese? as if anyone (him included cares). It is so funny hearing the conversation between her and her dad, he has a very strong australian accent, obviously totally different from hers.
She is still claiming that garden party they had was her church wedding
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the reward being able to hope that your donation ends in content
the dialogue (and this is what it is as it is all just a staged script) between them both is weirdly cold imo, did anyone else find that? I agree I found it boring, how the hell this took her 7 hours to make at all, yet alone "another" 7 hours is beyond me.
Hilarious how she is now citing her patreons in the opening of the video. I'm not 100% sure this is still the case, but I think you tube videos are not monetised unless they are 10 plus minutes, so now she is missing out on this she must be even more desperate for money I guess
Alessandro
Chatty Member
Mmmmmm the “female friends” are mentioned because of what KyLie has read here
Why specify they are “female” ??? K never had them in Rome and we’ve never seen them in her flogs. She is so obsessed with that midriff there is no way she would become a “seal”
Antonio
Well-known member
We’ve discussed this previously @FlyByeNight and as I know KyLie in real life, I can say she is not vertiginously tall like a runway model, but she is above average height and she is built on robust lines. She is sporty and looks fit IRL but not thin. She is always super-tanned, even in winter, like a wannabe jetsetter of the 1950s; perhaps it’s all part of her Mid-Century movie fantasy
@Rena Solomon love your architectural analogy of the Classical orders and I would say that physically K fits the rustic Tuscan order - solid with unfluted columns and a simpler entablature - and not as sophisticated and fine as the Ionic or the Corinthian
PlinyinTorquay
Chatty Member
The reading of that book just seemed to go on forever zzzzzzzzz
Those gushing reviews are entirely bonkers. Forgive the vulgar analogy, but it seems as though K only has to pick her nose, and her followers think she's terrific. They are like sheep, uninformed, undiscerning, blindly praising her. I find it alarming that she laps it up and believes herself to be some kind of art expert when it is as clear as day that she isn't. Really, if she stepped beyond her own YouTube channel, she would not be deemed credible. Sadly, she only wants positive feedback. K. cannot take on board informed, constructive criticism, which would enable her to up her game.
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