Kylie Flavell #4 Purloining the Patreon Purse

[Mkm]

@emm

yes he does look maniacal

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as soon as I saw that shot all I could think of was "here's Johnny! " From the shining 🪓

 

[Ily]

I love how this thread has turned into a blog about the beauty of Italy (and dogs ). Maybe you guys should start an actual YouTube channel about life in Italy

 

[Rina Valtellina]

Wow the first few minutes of this latest Tuscan jaunt must have really hit a nerve for me as even though I have woken to a most beautiful sunny Winter morning here on the Mornington Peninsula, I feel an internal rage which I am struggling to suppress let alone articulate! I am somewhat embarrassed that she has had such an effect on me. The lies and embellishments I can handle because I am so used to them, it's what she does, but assuming the role as an art expert/informed commentator really grates. And once again her fawners will just lap it up, let it go unchecked, encourage/beg her for more. Oh Kylie is there anything that you don't know, can't do?

However to my relief I found Brian's comment, so beautifully wrapped in Florentine paper that she may just let it remain, or, though I strongly doubt it, may even respond. I'm really digging that last sentence. Thanks Brian, I think I shall go for a long mind clearing coastal walk now.

 

[Jerry]

Hot, hot, day on Lake Garda. My partner says only tourists and foreigners would sit out in the Italian sun in Summer ! That’s me ! Thoroughly enjoyed the day.

First three photos at Lazise and the last three at Sirmione.

 

[emm]

so I finally watched the video, dont knowwhy I

@VeeJayBee Yes, I thought highlighting it was a "female" greengrocer was odd as well.

came here to comment exactly that, also the way she phrased getting free herbs the first time somehow implied that she was special and got them free, I always got free aromi from greengrocers, male or female, when I lived in Rome.
Also it irrationally annoyed me that she kept talking about ail oli, that was just mayonaise, if it doesn't have garlic how can it be ail oli?! her constantly going on about the "comforting" carbs was quite weird, definitely sounds like she has a bit of an issue with food imo, definitely doesn't eat a lot of the less healthy food she has shown before.
Agree with what everyone has said, she looks like she has ages about 10 years since the last video, I watched until the end but wish i hadn't, her talking to him was vomit inducing

 

[emm]

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Ahh, Zina, that’s not how KyLIE and Potato work; no generosity involved at all. They hustle a few night on the promise of influencing others to pay to stay.


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Well, Melissa, there is at at least one more, in addition to the stereotypical you mention and the fake one KyLIE serves up and that is the harsh, absurd, contradictory Italy that people struggle with daily here.

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Hey Sam, the extra 7 hours of editing she said she needed was because she confused midnight with noon and didn’t want to admit it. Enjoy your trip and don’t expect it to be as KyLIE presents it.

"thank you for spending your time" as if she is doing it out of the kindness of her heart 1) she is doing a "job" she wants to do 2) she is being paid (very) well for it

 

[nostoneunturned]

This was uncomfortable to watch. Nah this was ridiculous the the kayak looked nice plane white, quite chic really.
The result was quite kitschy cute, it’s just so much effort for something they will probably use twice! She drags that 40 kg boat all over the place in the heat, surely her efforts could be going into something more interesting, Daddy must busy finishing the chicken coup. On that, did anyone else find it creepy watching the shot where her Dad is leaning over her while she painted and the fact she calls him Daddy? I stopped calling my Dad “ Daddy” when I was about 10.
The kayak painting is not interesting content. She never lets the photography/ scenery speak for itself. Explaining why she did everything spoils the effects .
It would seem the heat has overcome her judgment. Hard Yakka KyLIE‘s reasons for jumping back and forward in time, skipping from one conversation to the other, shouting to off camera Daddy and Gweeds do not ammount to artful cinema .
If this is living the cinematic life I’ll stick with mine thanks .
Kayak looks quite cute though what did they name her “Me time” good ship “Squids” or maybe “Patreon’s Purse” ???
More Rouje dress advertising
I too would much prefer to see Guido astride a big black horse than in black bike shorts complaining
two wet arses, no fish from me 🤌
next

 

[Mkm]

Someone asked how will guido feel about the non-honeymoon being used as video footage, think we all need to accept that guido has bought into the whole Kylie show and is now as guilty and as culpable as her.

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

 

[Alessandro]

@Alessandro good to see you again, I’ve missed your insight and wit 🦧You are so right Everything about this is so self-conscious it’s painful to watch.
It’s not the accent that gives her away as an Australian it’s the irony. The irony that the effort she goes to pull focus on the details she chooses to pull focus on all betray the point she is flogging a dead horse to make.
Kyles would have us believe that everything she dreamed of has happened, instead I see an uptight girl woman who can’t relax until everything in the room is aesthetically as SHE wants it (poor Guido must be banished to the other room if he just wants to kick back chill with a beer, scratch his balls and watch the football) that’s just the limpid tip outside leaf of the daggy iceberg lettuce.
The greatest gift you to give a friend is to have the house smelling of cooked meals !.? what the actual ef? It’s a basic sweet thing but if that’s the greatest crikey !
Some of the greatest most fun and interesting people I know can’t cook and never clean up after themselves
As for force feeding us these ridiculous calculations that examine the cost of the meal in minutiae, ( hurts my eyes ) well Kylie honey I just don’t give a damn! So in fact instead of looking down your nose at people who buy aioli Kylie (the patron saint of DIY home crafts and purse-string pullers) consider this - The global economic community is on its knees and maybe spending a couple of euros on a damn jar of aeoli at the local grocer or even at the damn franchise might help a couple of immigrants who have fought very hard to legitimately move to a new county survive the next 10 years of debt repayment .
Also I’m uncomfortable being cinematically manipulated to the point of being a peeping Tom through the door at KyLIE while Squids gives her the swirls AGAIN .
Ordinary work KF here’s a C+ at the very most if had to grade it .

Brava @nostoneunturned ben detto Yep the twirling is too much and not romantic and you just don’t want to see them fake dancing and kissing (again) Agree she makes it seem voyeuristic too and you want to look away.

And ‘minutiae’ is just the right word, most people can buy a zuchini and a garlic clove without breaking the bank Why bother to do all those cutaways to useless produce shots?

Is it ‘Squid’s’ (why that nickname @nostoneunturned ?) influence or @Jerry ‘s ‘Potatohead’! Does Guido suffer from bracci corti (short arms so can’t reach his wallet and thus a penny pincher) as discussed previously? Is he counting all the cash that comes in and goes out assiduously as the good little Florentine accountant he is?

And KyLie’s always sainted and time-consuming DIY is all very well if you don’t have a job and can float about Tuscany filming yourself waiting for people to give you money

 

[Denise0211]

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Yes, I see the button, but no longer see her name listed on the main page, if people are browsing. I saw it listed once yesterday, then gone. That is what I meant, @Antonio

@emm can you see it yet?

@Jerry Yes, keep us puppy and Verona posted!

Lots to catch up on with the Kylie tax stuff!

Here was my weekend.

 

[Antonio]

Yes, I also have the idea she has a "hierarchy" of culture and Italian and French are at the top. Maybe because they have a strong "cinematic"(ahem) history and it's easier for her to latch onto and use for her own puposes. Maybe she's simply ignorant about her family history and simply enjoyed her Greek holidays (and now passport)?

Evidently her interest in Spain waned quickly, and I believe either @Alessandro or @Antonio wrote a bit more on her changing direction years back.

@Denise0211 yes KyLie tried out different countries and found Italy, even more than France, garnered her the kind of attention she wanted most. Spain was supposed to be her life and passion (the sister lives there now) but she decided she could get a lot more mileage out of Roma rather than Barcelona. “An empty vessel makes the most noise, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”

Certainly in Roma when we knew her she was all about getting as much male admiration as possible and whatever riches/connections/leg-up the men could offer. She never appeared to have much interest or knowledge of anything except the pursuit of her own vacuous dreams of personal fame and fortune. The palpable lack of interest in Greek culture, history or cuisine (or Australian for that matter) just shows her ignorance and sheer disinterest in anything beyond her narcissistic obsession with herself

Re the car hire, @Spirit of place @Denise0211 that fake bill/quote was so annoying that I checked out the Avis I use in Rome and the price K claimed was double what I came up with for a month. It was all about playing poor as discussed to offset theTuscan villa, Portofino etc and buying the bomb was to keep the Patreons paying...

 

[Mkm]

Personally I think it would be amazing if Kylie evaporates into the tuscan sun. It would be the perfect proof that she was nothing more than a hustler all along and would bring the perfect kick in the teeth to the poor saps that live vicariously through her channel. The best dose of reality they could ever get; live your own life and have YouTube chancers as supplement and not the object of your life.

 

[Spirit of place]

What is that cinematic drink in her hand?

 

[emm]

Dear all, I have been following your discussions of art, Italy, travel and culture with great interest and have decided to join! I, too, am a refugee from the Kylie Klogs and could not believe I was the only one who thought her pretensions and view of Italy were often preposterous. Thank-you for the collegiate tone of the debates and the insights into the real K. I think she is trying to bore us into extinction but keep going as the journey and digressions along the way are more interesting than her as the destination!

Can you add or edit your post or does it just repeat like mine above?

you can edit but only for a couple of minutes after posting

yeh it is also weird that she seemsto have become more awkward with a worse "presenting" style over time, the latest video looks like it is the first time she has been on camera. I genuinely think her and guido are having some relationship issues, it must be difficult being in the middle of nowhere with no way to independently leave as she can't drive, if I was her I would be using this time to learn rather than needlessly paint kyaks and cars

 

[Jerry]

@Jerry, please tell me what breed of puppy you are getting. I really need to know this. I hope you had a splendid day in Verona!

I never thought this would be my choice because my friend had one when I was in high school and they bit at my ankles when I walked by !

A chihuahua.

I had a mixed breed as a boy and she was a lovely dog. Since then, I’ve only had cats.

My partner wants a small toy version dog, which, don’t tell her, I never considered to be dogs ! Not sure about the logistics of travel, but that will be new for me.

However, I do like dogs and they seem to like me, as we visted a breeder with about twenty and they all rushed up to me for attention.

We wanted a purebred and had chosen one, but then realized the breeder was not really a breeder, unfortunately, and we saw problems.

We didn’t want a “bug eye” chihuahua, but found a breeder near Verona and her puppies looked sweet. Often one has to reserve the dog before it’s born, but, to me, personality is paramount and we were fortunate to find some available to see.

We chose him a couple weeks ago and had to wait until he is a certain age. Photo below. Leave for Verona tomorrow

I’m giving you all this information, because I sense you are looking too, given the urgency in your message !

Bambi

 

[Antonio]

How many St. Anthonys are there? I'm confused. Just looked it up in The Catholic Encyclopaedia and can find two. St. A. of Padua, which I knew because of the Santo in Padua , and St. Anthony the Great with a Feast Day in January, so is there another? EDIT Just seen a list in Wiki. there are quite a lot!

@Spirit of place a spoof paper on fish might be fun. Am a tad concerned, though .... from Pulcinella to Pachyderm to Pesce ... is this the sign of a versatile intellect or Jack of all trades and master of none? A bit like K. with her many specialisms.

Thank-you @Spirit of place @PlinyinTorquay for wishing me buon onomastico, as I’m from the south we celebrate on January 17th for San Antonio Abate, who is one of the most beloved saints in Campania (and one of the most interesting as an early ascetic in Egypt). There are two paintings of him in one of my favourite little churches in Rome, near where I live.

I enjoyed your piece on William Hoare @PlinyinTorquay and how he studied in Italy for nine years under Pompeo Batoni in Rome, one of the most personable portraitists of aristocrats on the Grand Tour. I pass the house where he lived in Via Bocca di Leone 25 every day. The Venetian artist Rosalba Carriera is wonderful, her subtle pastel portraits are brilliantly expressive and full of feeling.

“As interesting as watching paint dry“ is literally the theme of Kylie’s new vlog What a pointless exercise. Why recreate your bathroom stencils on a canoe? What an ego she has to expect people to watch this boring stuff! It all seemed to be about showing off: her amateur painting, speaking in her odd Italian, the digression into a pre-pandemic picnic with G, the neighbours’ watermelon and bread at the end...

It’s quite funny watching how she has taken on this new softly-spoken and demure persona (all that looking down @emm ) for Guido and also is now taking on a strange Tuscan intonation when she speaks Italian. She is becoming even more of a simulacra of a simulacra of a KyLie that never existed

 

[Alessandro]

Btw @Alessandro Is this the casino magazine you mentioned Kylie was associated with? The one evidently under investigation for money laundering and dealings with high roller Chinese mobsters?

@Denise0211 yep that’s the one KyLie’s shady “journalistic” credentials are based on - the “magazine” is advertorial rubbish as a glossy adjunct meant for the casino’s so-called high-rollers (and of course was dead in the water almost immediately, long folded amid the disgrace and disaster of the casino itself) Thanks to a very public shaming, which is continuing to happen now, the casino currently has three highly visible public governmental inquiries, for fraud, corruption, money laundering, bribery - everything you can think of.

It really seems as though KyLie is attracted to all of this glitzy lifestyle and doesn’t appear to think or care about whether it is underpinned by criminality. Those stories in Romeing about dates with rich men in Lambos, three Michelin star restuarants, yachts, holidays on the French Riviera, all point to her taste for enjoying the ostentatious wealth of other people.

How she is ever going to settle down to life with a rather dull and stolid accountant in the boondocks of Tuscany is a question yet to be answered

 

[Antonio]

Thank you, Jerry. That does sound sinister and disrespectful. I would delete that if I were her. After I was widowed I tried online dating which I found extremely unpleasant. I met someone at The Wallace Collection and, as it was raining, I invited him back to the lobby of my hotel off Marylebone High Street for tea and, after 45 minutes, he said 'Shall we go upstairs'. I cannot begin to say how very, very, angry and insulted I was. He was a most unattractive fellow anyway. But K is attractive and she is happy to publish photographs and videos of her body so she must receive more than her fair share of attention from these creepy types.

How awful @PlinyinTorquay! He needs to be sent to a Siberian fish canning factory for that insult (I googled it and there is one for salmon) You are such an interesting, intelligent and sensitive person (and that's just from knowing you as a fellow Tatler) you deserve the best!

 

[Antonio]

the dialogue (and this is what it is as it is all just a staged script) between them both is weirdly cold imo, did anyone else find that? I agree I found it boring, how the hell this took her 7 hours to make at all, yet alone "another" 7 hours is beyond me.
Hilarious how she is now citing her patreons in the opening of the video. I'm not 100% sure this is still the case, but I think you tube videos are not monetised unless they are 10 plus minutes, so now she is missing out on this she must be even more desperate for money I guess

@emm her Patreons were going down so I guess she is desperate to keep the rest on board to keep the cash rolling in It‘s becoming embarassing and tiresome that KyLie appears to think she is a mix of Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly and Sofia Loren The honeymoon vlog/flog was dull and disjointed and strangely charmless despite Portofino’s spectacular locale. Even the drone shots are becoming ho-hum.

What does it say about her and Guido? Not much...But yes he does look maniacal in that shot @trinacria The relationship looks uncomfortable as it would and will be with any narcissist. Is she really reduced to videoing Guido eating fritto misto?

Also quite a lot of wine and prosecco on display and but much less midriff baring (just one shot) and rolling around in the sheets - due no doubt to the scoffing Tatlers

Love Guido’s purse @PlinyinTorquay I wonder if it was opened to fund Portofino? Perhaps not and it was the Patreons....in which case deve avere le braccine corte (meaning his arms are too short to reach his wallet!)

 

[Alessandro]

Curious indeed, l don't live in Italy (or speak Italian) so didn't know about the ciao thing.

There is an English coffee guy on YouTube (James Hoffman) that claims this whole Capuchino in the morning business is down to Italy having a lot of lactose intolerant people so they created this system in a sort of self preservation type thing (totally my words, he is way too posh to put it that way)

Q Katie teamed up with this dauvo guy to review a house, she thanked him for reaching out to her, I thought this was a bit of unnecessary clout chasing on his behalf because I think she had little to offer his channel, other than the obvious "good looking girl in the video hack move"

@Mkm I’m Italian and we often have cappuccinos in the afternoon. We prefer to have a milky coffee with a cornetto in the morning or a plum clake in the afternoon as they work better together than a cappuccino after a plate of lasagne, pasta or pizza. And an espresso after lunch or dinner is more part of our tradition and not as heavy as a milky drink after a meal.

I’m sorry to tell you that it is completely false that Italy has a lot of lactose intolerant people so we have created “this system in a sort of self preservation type thing”.

It is very odd for us constantly hearing our culture and cuisine being being misunderstood or misinterpreted by foreigners who claim to be greater experts than Italians themselves.

It is one of the reasons KyLie is so annoying. She couldn’t even handle the backlash against her pizza episode from italians without deleting the comments and blocking anyone writing anything critical about it.