I suppose my question is whether Kylie and Guido are going to be running the coop, so to speak? Who will welcome guests and be on call? Someone has to do it. Won't they be living "there", more or less? If Kylie doesn't plan on working accomodations and they hire staff, she really needs to be upfront about it or , as mentioned, some guests will be sorely disappointed. If she thinks she will do it, she should understand it will require her time in many ways.
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I would imagine that she needs to be able to drive for that, or is it close to their new house ?
Hi Everyone,
I am a tad behind in what is going on. Could someone please give me an update on what's happening in terms of her divorce. I had no idea she was married? and to who? I understand she is engaged to Guido, who's family own property in Tuscany.
I am actually Australian and saddened to see Australia represented by Kylie. It is extreamly hard for Australians to leave and enter Australia currently with Covid, not to mention costly. I have no idea how her family will do this for her wedding. However, I have heard they are in Spain? Also, does she have Greek citizenship? She honestly doesn't make sense.
I recently watched her series (well tried to) "when Patrick meets Kylie" now she states she is a high-paid magazine editor yet for which magazine as I look her name up and nothing appears (apart from Youtube) Obviously not a well-known magazine then. Is Kylie Flavell her real name? Also, did she attend University? As to be a magazine editor in Aus, you would definitely need a degree.
I started watching Kylie as I have a dream of moving to Rome when I graduate high school in Aus (I am 18) later this year and study Medicine. I understand Italy is not all that it is cracked up to be on her channel, yet I still have this dream.
I look forward to your replies.
I am a tad behind in what is going on. Could someone please give me an update on what's happening in terms of her divorce. I had no idea she was married? and to who? I understand she is engaged to Guido, who's family own property in Tuscany.
I am actually Australian and saddened to see Australia represented by Kylie. It is extreamly hard for Australians to leave and enter Australia currently with Covid, not to mention costly. I have no idea how her family will do this for her wedding. However, I have heard they are in Spain? Also, does she have Greek citizenship? She honestly doesn't make sense.
I recently watched her series (well tried to) "when Patrick meets Kylie" now she states she is a high-paid magazine editor yet for which magazine as I look her name up and nothing appears (apart from Youtube) Obviously not a well-known magazine then. Is Kylie Flavell her real name? Also, did she attend University? As to be a magazine editor in Aus, you would definitely need a degree.
I started watching Kylie as I have a dream of moving to Rome when I graduate high school in Aus (I am 18) later this year and study Medicine. I understand Italy is not all that it is cracked up to be on her channel, yet I still have this dream.
I look forward to your replies.
isn't it in the grounds of the new house?
That's what I thought, same grounds, but since I just FF bits through most of the renovation videos I am not sure lol.
the divorce is not 100% but it seems the only likely document she could need to get for a marriage imo. Her mum's family is greek so she has a greek passport, hence being able to live easily in the EU.
I'm not sure if you meant you want to study medicine in Rome, but a word of warning (this is from a few years ago so it might not be the same, Italian people on the thread can probably advise more) but I taught lots of doctors when I lived in Rome and a lot of them wanted to move to the UK or other places but had not been able to because their italian medical degree was not counted as valid
I think regardless of what she does she will have to learn to drive to live there, imagine being stuck there all day alone with a child/children when Guido is at work
Hi @parisellamoore , welcome! As for the parents/sister being in Spain, they def were over Christmas, as Kylie had planned to visit them in Maiorca over Xmas, but with Covid could not. We don't know if they are still there.
Good luck moving to Rome. It's a wonderful city, especially to study in.
You'll meet people from all over the world and can get a feel for if you would like living there long term afterwards.Eta: Good advice by @emm , depending on your future ambitions and where you want to actually practise.
Hi @parisellamoore , welcome! As for the parents/sister being in Spain, they def were over Christmas, as Kylie had planned to visit them in Maiorca over Xmas, but with Covid could not. We don't know if they are still there.
Good luck moving to Rome. It's a wonderful city, especially to study in.
Eta: Good advice by @emm , depending on your future ambitions and where you want to actually practise.
Thank you. I appreciate both of your responses. So much of Kylie makes no sense. I have forgot to mention that I met Brian on a flight a few years ago. He was super friendly. However, did go a bit shy when I asked about Kylie.Hi @parisellamoore , welcome! As for the parents/sister being in Spain, they def were over Christmas, as Kylie had planned to visit them in Maiorca over Xmas, but with Covid could not. We don't know if they are still there.
Good luck moving to Rome. It's a wonderful city, especially to study in.
Eta: Good advice by @emm , depending on your future ambitions and where you want to actually practise.
Simply said, Italy is beautiful but broken.
If you are arriving here, better be prepared or it can be harsh.
I have travelled to Italy for many years, it is my favourite country to travel. I have always said I would never live here, yet here I am, locked down during the pandemic for the past year and a half.
During that time, I have gained a family, including a 19 year older daughter, also studying medicine in a specialized high school. She attends six days a week plus tutoring classes.
Hold onto your dream but don’t expect a fantasy as presented by Kylie.
If you are arriving here, better be prepared or it can be harsh.
I have travelled to Italy for many years, it is my favourite country to travel. I have always said I would never live here, yet here I am, locked down during the pandemic for the past year and a half.
During that time, I have gained a family, including a 19 year older daughter, also studying medicine in a specialized high school. She attends six days a week plus tutoring classes.
Hold onto your dream but don’t expect a fantasy as presented by Kylie.
That reminds me, speaking about her parents. The other day under one of her IG photos, while visiting her parents in Burgandy, IIRC, she wrote her family does home swaps for 6 months and that's why they spend time away. But every home showed so far has been a beautiful villa. I am not familiar with hope swapping, but do they not have to be of comperable value or dimensions etc?
yeah I would assume that has to be the case? you wouldn't swap a huge villa for a 2 bedroom flat would you?
How long have her family been in Spain for?! how were they able to travel so far at any point in the past year??
I have no idea to be honest. Maybe you'd swap a huge villa in Burgundy for a 2 bed apartment in Manhattan ..... I imagine her parents must be comfortable even though she says they are not rich. But, hey, this is all conjecture on my part.
From what I saw in her videos the chicken coop is next to the house they will move into and the pigsties seemed to be on the same property, although not right next to the house? Also, she will definitely need a driver's license if they are to establish themselves there and grow their family. I imagine that Guido will not be able to drive her and their future children all the time, for doctor's appointments, kindergarten, school, etc while also having to commute for his job in the city.
Hi @parisellamoore I am Italian and live in Rome. There are of course many beautiful historical and cultural things about the city but it has always been a tough place to live, work and study longterm - the public services are more like a third world country and corruption is endemic in every part of life, including at universities.
Even after more than a decade trying, for example, Kylie could not make it in Rome and had to give up her apartment and left almost penniless to start again in Florence.
The situation in Rome, as elsewhere, has been exacerbated by Covid which has decimated many businesses let alone lives. Many of my friends have left to go back to live with their families.
@emm is right about medicine too, medical students I know were desperately underpaid after finishing their degrees and appalled at the conditions in some of the hospitals and most wanted to leave and work overseas - but then you have more study as an Italian medical degree may not be recognised.
Unlike Australia, Covid is still not under control in Italy and this is not the time to travel here.
My advice would be to holiday in Italy when we can all travel and/or do a language course and get a feel for the place before committing to trying to study here. The facilities and teaching in Australia for medicine are a thousand times better than here and will give you many more advantages for post-graduate study and work overseas when you have finished .
Re Kylie and her career, she worked in PR at a publication put out by casinos and then at a “what’s on” free magazine - she is not a trained journalist and was never an editor of any real or serious magazine. Those intros by both Kylie and Patrick on that interstitial about their so-called former careers are incredibly pretentious!
One of my closest friends is Italian, she studied at Bologna, but came to the UK where we met as we both studied for postgraduate degrees. Apart from returning to Italy to visit her family she secured work as a Civil Servant in London (Whitehall) and is obtaining a British passport. Her family is scarcely making ends meet and is often asking her for money to survive. Re COVID last summer I secured a grant to attend a professional workshop in Florence and Arezzo but it got cancelled much to my disappointment. I contacted the convenor this year and it's still not going to happen and, from her response to me, it seems as though she and her family have been devastated by recent events. I was particularly looking forward to visiting Arezzo as I was so touched by the movie La Vita e Bella. I really hope I can get back to Italy later this year.Hi @parisellamoore I am Italian and live in Rome. There are of course many beautiful historical and cultural things about the city but it has always been a tough place to live, work and study longterm - the public services are more like a third world country and corruption is endemic in every part of life, including at universities.
Even after more than a decade trying, for example, Kylie could not make it in Rome and had to give up her apartment and left almost penniless to start again in Florence.
The situation in Rome, as elsewhere, has been exacerbated by Covid which has decimated many businesses let alone lives. Many of my friends have left to go back to live with their families.
@emm is right about medicine too, medical students I know were desperately underpaid after finishing their degrees and appalled at the conditions in some of the hospitals and most wanted to leave and work overseas - but then you have more study as an Italian medical degree may not be recognised.
Unlike Australia, Covid is still not under control in Italy and this is not the time to travel here.
My advice would be to holiday in Italy when we can all travel and/or do a language course and get a feel for the place before committing to trying to study here. The facilities and teaching in Australia for medicine are a thousand times better than here and will give you many more advantages for post-graduate study and work overseas when you have finished .
Re Kylie and her career, she worked in PR at a publication put out by casinos and then at a “what’s on” free magazine - she is not a trained journalist and was never an editor of any real or serious magazine. Those intros by both Kylie and Patrick on that interstitial about their so-called former careers are incredibly pretentious!
Yeah, I assume it must be a comperable value. From what I have seen of her home on the beach it looked very nice (just saw some of their beach front and inside rustic dining). They certainly are not poor. Also bc...if they sail for months at a time, what do her parents do? Maybe retired now, but they were sailing during her HS years, which is why she and her sister completed their diploma via correspondance courses.
This thread is very fast moving! I'm posting after a catch-up so please excuse me if I don't quote each earlier point I might refer to.
In her last video Kylie says "we" are currently renovating four properties; the chicken coop, the pigsties, the main house and "La Terrazza" (which she wants to rename despite it having been called that by Guido). There is no mention of the renovation of the small house next to the restaurant which is to be the accommodation for an anticipated commercial tenant.
I find it very presumptuous how Kylie has assumed co-ownership of the various projects. I'm sure the development of these sites was conceived of long before the Sheila Contessa installed herself, and I would wager that she has no hand in the long-winded planning process. In her current, non-married state she is, at best, no more than a design consultant and marketer who is likely working without a contract or compensation, other than food and board.
As others have pondered, I wonder how much of her online output other family members have seen. Maybe she's shown mummy and papà some pretty drone footage on her phone while at a lunch, they nod and smile, saying that's nice dear, unaware of her public self-aggrandizing and the general proprietorial attitude she is taking. Guido might mention that dear Kylie will be choosing some taps and a basin for the pollaio - she stays up all night researching them you know! - which his mother will think is a nice thing to let her do. We've also heard about Guido's older brother; he would almost certainly have an interest in the properties - what do he and his family think of this arriviste?
When the accommodations are eventually available to rent I imagine that Kylie's lures will imply that guests will encounter her and Guido during their stay. Disappointment will ensue when, come check-in day, the excited guest receives a WhatsApp apologising that K&G are busy with some urgent business "...Guido is in Florence and I'm editing a special video project 18 hours per day, but here's the number for the housekeeper who can help with whatever you might need. It breaks my heart that I can't be there to welcome you, maybe see you next time! Here's a hand-stitched souvenir tea-towel and 15cl of olive oil to get on with... .
In her last video Kylie says "we" are currently renovating four properties; the chicken coop, the pigsties, the main house and "La Terrazza" (which she wants to rename despite it having been called that by Guido). There is no mention of the renovation of the small house next to the restaurant which is to be the accommodation for an anticipated commercial tenant.
I find it very presumptuous how Kylie has assumed co-ownership of the various projects. I'm sure the development of these sites was conceived of long before the Sheila Contessa installed herself, and I would wager that she has no hand in the long-winded planning process. In her current, non-married state she is, at best, no more than a design consultant and marketer who is likely working without a contract or compensation, other than food and board.
As others have pondered, I wonder how much of her online output other family members have seen. Maybe she's shown mummy and papà some pretty drone footage on her phone while at a lunch, they nod and smile, saying that's nice dear, unaware of her public self-aggrandizing and the general proprietorial attitude she is taking. Guido might mention that dear Kylie will be choosing some taps and a basin for the pollaio - she stays up all night researching them you know! - which his mother will think is a nice thing to let her do. We've also heard about Guido's older brother; he would almost certainly have an interest in the properties - what do he and his family think of this arriviste?
When the accommodations are eventually available to rent I imagine that Kylie's lures will imply that guests will encounter her and Guido during their stay. Disappointment will ensue when, come check-in day, the excited guest receives a WhatsApp apologising that K&G are busy with some urgent business "...Guido is in Florence and I'm editing a special video project 18 hours per day, but here's the number for the housekeeper who can help with whatever you might need. It breaks my heart that I can't be there to welcome you, maybe see you next time! Here's a hand-stitched souvenir tea-towel and 15cl of olive oil to get on with... .
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I wonder why Guido's older brother wasn't the 'heir' to the property? Unless that's just old-fashioned thinking.
Also, in this intro, Kylie states she ran away from an Australian boyfriend who proposed to her. Maybe she's leaving out the fact she must have actually married him before running away
If the divorce paper theory is true.
Also, in this intro, Kylie states she ran away from an Australian boyfriend who proposed to her. Maybe she's leaving out the fact she must have actually married him before running away
If the divorce paper theory is true.
I think she meant: "Have a show wedding", but whatever narrative she wants to push....
It just sounds so stupid and like an excuse on her part. Or, the result of last minute planning. The wedding is not legal, I have no issues with the church bouncing. Lol
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