Most kids have said that at some stage. And as I say Jet was up to something for Bunny to accuse him. It’s not black and white
Most kids have said that at some stage. And as I say Jet was up to something for Bunny to accuse him. It’s not black and whiteI'm guilty of saying that to my parents growing up when I couldn't do or have somethingit's what it is..my youngest child said it not so longer ago when I grounded her and took her phone off her for 48 hrs...
So am I guilty for child abuse
I'm thinking that the SS would have fully investigated the home setting following all the allegations made against KH to assess his and MP's suitability. Bunny now has visitation with her dad with MP fully present. There do not appear to be any red flags showing from any recent visits and I am sure Bunny would be quite vocal if something had happened during any of these. I haven't seen the video and I am not going to. The whole focus should be J & B and where the best home setting should be. In my mind that is still KH. If MP was such a bad person, surely Bunny would not be allowed to visit with her there. This is just KP and her cronies getting ever more desperate. We should all remember - she doesn't really want those children - she just wants to keep the MM and crush KH until he's in the gutter. A cornered animal is the most dangerous and this is where everyone involved needs to stand firm and make sure everything is in place legally.Trying to think logically. I presume if KP had said video in her possession, this would of been seen by SS and court…yet things still happening.
Exactly!! Filming is a child's bedroom is wrong and should be completely off limits!Thats an interesting thought - M is being spied-on by a colleague who is reporting back to the skank.
I'd still like to know the legality of someone filming stuff in the Hayler household - even the police have to get permission to spy on subjects. Who is filming in a child's bedroom eh???????
Exactly..not defending him blaming him so obviously he was doing something prior..Most kids have said that at some stage. And as I say Jet was up to something for Bunny to accuse him. It’s not black and white
So serious KP left it 5 months while she continued her hols and then sweated in to save them. Once her tan was topped up.I agree with both of you, something is off...maybe too, J & B are now changed i
Where is this video? Who posted it?
I would be a millionaire if I had a penny for everytime mine said it! Now I have two adults who come home at the weekends and have said quite emphatically that they will not forgive us if we sell the house as 'they had their happiest memories of childhood' here!Hate to say it you’ll find lots of parents loose it when youngsters are playing up. Bunny thought it was Jett’s fault so the kids were up to something which made her loose her temper. No defence of the situation but weird how a camera was strategically placed and how the footage was obtained. I don’t think this is black and white. If I had a penny for everytime a youngster has said, I hate this house.
AgreeSo I mentally prepared myself for something really terrible just in case. Well I'm sorry but what a load of nonsense! Firstly I would love to know who got hold of this clip and how, as it was meant to be from CCTV in the kids' room. Secondly, Bunny already in the room, Jett comes in and jumps on his bed so they're not both running away in terror, in fact Jett is acting in a very petulent manner like he is angry at something he's been told. Then we have MP opening the door and throwing the pudding, yes she swears but from the way Jett seemed and Bunny blaming him ("I'm starving", "it's your fault") and him saying "blame Michelle" I would say they both probably didn't want whatever they were being served for dinner, or refused to eat it, and M got to end of tether and told them to go to their room. No, I don't believe MP threw pudding AT anyone, just landed it on B's bed. Blimey, if this is meant to be abuse then I'm sorry but from when I was a kid, most parents would these days be locked up for what they said or did! Aliciaandhertravels is either a FM, plant, or somehow on KFP "payroll", not to be taken seriously at all in my humble opinion.
This has to come from KP. She threatened a video before. This has to be criminal now?This ‘Alicia’ is also saying MP works part time at BA and both her & KH are on ‘full benefits’ too. How would anyone know this unless they were very close to them? Most likely just one of the clan…
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Not on KP’s IG - on F4J’s IG, their latest post (the statement in response to KSR), there is a poster asking ‘who wants to see the video?’ - it’s on her IG grid & stories.
I've seen that account before, pretty sure it's a sock puppet account.For some strange reason that person's IG page seems to ring a bell with me but I can't think why. I just have a feeling that I have seen it before for something but I can't place it. I just seem to remember it as she doesn't seem to post much or very often for someone supposedly who travels a lot. I dunno, I wish I could remember why I've seen it before. Weird. Unfortunately I don't have a very good memory! On the plus side she doesn't seem to have many followers so it probably won't get much traction, although I guess the clan could pick up the info from here and run with it. We need to be careful.
you are right if saying this video doesn't make kip the Arc Angel Gabriel or give her A1 for parenting skills.I really don’t know what to think. I’ve read all of the opinions on the video and yes I did watch it and I wish I hadn’t. My biggest take was who the fuck would release footage of two distressed young children (one half-clothed) in a private space? Also, how the hell has this become public?
I have to say that the attitude of “it’s not abuse” or “I suffered worse” doesn’t sit right with me. I’m a parent and god I’ve had my moments but (perhaps because of my own childhood) I’ve never raised a finger to my child and have certainly never thrown anything at them.
On reflection, I’ve been a bit too black and white in my thinking about the whole situation - KP Bad/KH good - and I was happy with that, but I will now try to be a little more nuanced. I know we don’t have the before or after for context but in that moment the kids seem scared and unhappy and if that was my child, my fury would have no bounds.
It’s all just made me feel very confused and sad
Or pretending to work at BA gives their claim legitimacy.Thats an interesting thought - M is being spied-on by a colleague who is reporting back to the skank.
I'd still like to know the legality of someone filming stuff in the Hayler household - even the police have to get permission to spy on subjects. Who is filming in a child's bedroom eh???????
So serious KP left it 5 months while she continued her hols and then sweated in to save them. Once her tan was topped up.I agree with both of you, something is off...maybe too, J & B are now changed i
Where is this video? Who posted it?
I don’t understand what you mean? Of course it doesn’t and I didn’t say that.you are right if saying this video doesn't make kip the Arc Angel Gabriel or give her A1 for parenting skills.
Yes I think KP has become that deranged and I believe she would even fire a tie up with F4J for her own gain. The video stinks of a setup.I don’t think it’s a colleague. It’s someone trying to appear like a colleague with the fake travel photos. Someone with a restraining order who definitely shouldn’t be filming in the house. Someone whose entire life is going down the shitter and is desperately trying to redeem themselves in the public eye! I just don’t know why it was released now.
I think we are agreeing although not sure.I don’t understand what you mean? Of course it doesn’t and I didn’t say that.
These comments by “Alicia” certainly sound like KP. She does use the word disgusting a lotThis has to come from KP. She threatened a video before. This has to be criminal now?
I've seen that account before, pretty sure it's a sock puppet account.
I remember one of my kids having their tea & something happened being naughty & food spilt all over the floor. Shouted about behaving himself at dinner table, but carried on & more food all over the table. I picked up the plate & scooped it all in the dog bowl, put it in from of him & said, ' if you behave like an animal, you can eat like one' ! Of course I didn't let him eat from the bowl, I was just making a point. He was about 8-9 at the time, but what was worse he had a mate over for tea with himSo let's get this straight ..... one video ` filmed ` in the childrens bedroom ` why ` and by ` who ` of Michelle throwing pudding it would seem onto Buntys bed, don't get me wrong, this was not a pleasant watch, and she was wrong in doing this ... however .... having raised two children now adults ... over the years they both pushed me to breaking point MANY times with their cheek and behaviour ... I had an abusive childhood LONG STORY won't bore you and never once raised my hand to my children, I would limit tv time, send to bed early as punishment, sometimes wanted to pull my hair out in frustration ..... what led up to this? the video does not show, this small snippet is purposely shown, its deliberate in that sense
` I hate you, and hate this house ` were words screamed at me MANY times because children push boundaries, maybe J and B were being naughty prior, hence running into bedroom ..... does this incident cancel out the many crimes of their ` mother `over the years .... all documented, out there for public consumption, in all truth ` shocking crimes ` like flashing her dirty minge at them, being one of many ` what educational value did that have ` what was their mother trying to teach them, or witnessing drug taking, drunken fights with her latest ` bed notch ` .... the list is endless ... she has done far more damage with her vile behaviour than throwing something at the children in a rage, her abuse of them has been ongoing since birth, and continues today, trust me, they have witnessed with her, horrendous things no child should see ..... there's a camera filming for a reason, and has been put out there for the same
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