Johnny Depp and Amber Heard #11

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Everything points to a win for JD IMHO. Those Audio tapes are so damning for AH.

AHs evidence or lack thereof consists solely of friends and their testimony doesn't add up.

I've just seen the texts between AH and Josh, where he talks about bringing "them" with him when he comes over to JD/AHs penthouse for dinner. He goes on to say to her that "you don't use them just show them to him".

There's a Photo that shows what "them" is ....... big sharp knives. KNIVES.
Wait huhhh?? Did I miss this
 
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I'm glad that they don't have to be present for the verdict. Unfortunately, while listening to all the lawyers I do think Depp will loose. I think Heard will loose her counter claim too. It just seems like it's such a difficult thing to prove.
I am by no means an expert, but surely he's got to win re the defamation re sexual abuse? How on earth can they find in her favour in terms of the sexual abuse? I honestly believe that if he'd raped her with a bottle, like she claims, she would have been completely destroyed and needed urgent medical attention.

If that's the case it will go to a re-trial.... if they want to pursue it.
If either wins, then it could be appealed.
I doubt Turd can afford to appeal.

Everything points to a win for JD IMHO. Those Audio tapes are so damning for AH.

AHs evidence or lack thereof consists solely of friends and their testimony doesn't add up.

I've just seen the texts between AH and Josh, where he talks about bringing "them" with him when he comes over to JD/AHs penthouse for dinner. He goes on to say to her that "you don't use them just show them to him".

There's a Photo that shows what "them" is ....... big sharp knives. KNIVES.
Can you share a screenshot or link?
 
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They will both lose their respective cases. Stalemate... But JD didnt bring this to trial for a court victory. He brought it to the public to decide
 
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They will both lose their respective cases. Stalemate... But JD didnt bring this to trial for a court victory. He brought it to the public to decide
Spot on. And I think he’s achieved what he set out to…to show that there is another side.
 
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Maybe someone can link to it, I watched That Umbrella Guys video. He's very dramatic heading is something like "plot to kill JD".
Going to go watch it now, could u imagine if all her friends conspired against him and it ever got to a point that he wouldn’t be here today. It gives me the chills thinking about it, like a massive joke gone wrong or something. I just get real evil vibes from her and you actually don’t know the extent of what she is capable of. The psychotic laugh in the audio just gives it away. I fear for anyone who has testified against her in court or spoke out, especially Johnny😖😖. She isn’t going to let this go now everyone’s seen what a real evil twisting crazy lying b*tch she is, she is going to want revenge.

Not sure how true, but I’ve also seen that AH mother was in good health and previously adored Johnny, then recently she suddenly passes away with unexplained circumstances. The mother was scared of the father and also scared that AH was going to kill Johnny, hmm I dunno something sus
 
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They will both lose their respective cases. Stalemate... But JD didnt bring this to trial for a court victory. He brought it to the public to decide
He's already won in terms of public opinion, but I'm pretty certain he has a good chance of winning too. Amber has nothing and it's up to her side to prove what she said is true, she can't especially as a pp just said, with regard to the sexual abuse claims.
 
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They will both lose their respective cases. Stalemate... But JD didnt bring this to trial for a court victory. He brought it to the public to decide
Yes I agree. The sticking point is whether anyone at Disney read the op-ed in the Washington Post. We've only had one representative from Disney and she was useless. Unless, the jury go on what the show biz attorney said - that JD lost work......it's difficult to prove defamation on all points
 
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Yes I agree. The sticking point is whether anyone at Disney read the op-ed in the Washington Post. We've only had one representative from Disney and she was useless. Unless, the jury go on what the show biz attorney said - that JD lost work......it's difficult to prove defamation on all points
Yeh but even her own talent agent said in her video deposition “ who’s going to want to work with someone who’s been accused of dv” or something along those lines. Doesn’t that just prove why Johnny lost jobs, surely it cannot be put down to his alcohol and drug abuse as JD talent agent said he was never fired
 
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Her problem isn't the money.
So much as the legal grounds for an appeal.
Yes, but even if she had the grounds, can she afford it? She's already spent 6mill of Johnny's money on this case.
 
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Yes, but even if she had the grounds, can she afford it? She's already spent 6mill of Johnny's money on this case.
And she might have a slight bigger problem if it is true that she is being investigated for witness intimidation.
There is circumstantial evidence allegedly linking her to doxxing, harassment and making false police reports.
So it doesn't take a leap of imagination....
Not least because of the way Eve Barlow got herself banned from the court.

Gosh, I hope there isn't some sort of electronic or paper trail....
And one that leads to a federal charge....
 
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Yes I agree. The sticking point is whether anyone at Disney read the op-ed in the Washington Post. We've only had one representative from Disney and she was useless. Unless, the jury go on what the show biz attorney said - that JD lost work......it's difficult to prove defamation on all points

The POC role might be hard to prove but Grindelwald should be fairly easy given how much was discussed in the press. Maybe JK will testify? So he'd get about half of his 50mil give or take a mil or two.
 
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I find this case fascinating. I'm not writing this as an excuse for JD or from a fan's narrative, just someone who has got drawn into this trial through another case with a lot of similarities incl' another female abuser. I haven't even seen Pirates or most of his films. The few I have seen are Willy Wonka, Edward Scissorhands, Secret Window, What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Nick of Time, Chocolat & Finding Neverland. He's a good actor & I enjoyed what I have seen, when younger he was beautiful but I still don't consider myself a real fan.

From all I've seen so far during this trial & learning about his abusive childhood, there seems to be two Johnny's, the gentle (overly) generous, shy, kind & vulnerable man & the monster when he's off his head with drink/drugs & can be verbally abusive, ranting, destructive towards objects & misogynistic which as a woman myself is especially unpleasant. But it seems to me that (even if on a sub conscious level) he has a love-hate relationship with women stemming back to his mother with good Johnny loving women & the monster hating them or more likely (in my non expert opinion) feeling very unsure/insecure around them, a possible fear of abandonment thrown in & trust/hate issues & it all goes back to his mother.

He's clearly an introvert & very damaged but seems to have some self awareness as he has had therapy (possibly still ongoing, I hope so for his sake) & by his attempts to get & stay clean. The fact so many people want a piece of him & have done for so many years must make it hard for him to separate those who truly care for him & those who are just hangers on wanting a share of his wealth & generosity & IMO his addictions make him especially vulnerable.

I saw a quote somewhere that at his mother's funeral he said she was the meanest person he ever knew yet he still loved & cared for her until the end & has a tattoo of her name on his arm. Love/hate/loyalty, that's some mix. Someone mentioned on the previous thread about him being mentally stuck at a younger age & that could well be true as he clearly has problems handling his emotions & found/finds it easier to numb the pain with drink & drugs than deal with them. Not surprising as he didn't have decent role models, both parents abused him, with his dad beating him at his mum's bidding.

His reactions in those audio tapes are not the reactions of an abuser. They're the reactions of an appeaser & someone who wants to escape the violence he knows is coming. It likely triggered him & he wanted to retreat so badly & had the wisdom to not want their fights to escalate while she was relentless goading, mocking, gaslighting & hitting him. With all the evidence presented I don't believe he abused her physically as she claims. Possibly in self defence or reactive, wouldn't surprise me, but she comes across (to me) as a cold manipulative deceptive abuser whose testimony was so cringe worthy false & (quelle surprise) wants us to believe that everyone else is lying, even the professional witnesses. What are the odds?
That alone is a huge red flag for me even without the proven lies, changing of her story, those damning tapes, delaying handing over her devices, etc while he's remained consistent, turned over all his devices & has been willing to bare himself publicly (& a lot of it does him no bleeping favours) but it also makes me believe he's the victim & desperately wants to clear his name.

I've said before he must be a bleeping nightmare to live with & he's certainly not without his faults & that's putting it mildly, but physically abusive to her? No. Yet to see one shred of evidence to support her claims, just a lot of lies, story changing, dubious 'proof', smoke & mirrors & until I do see evidence that backs her up I'll continue to believe he's the victim & hope he wins this. But even if he doesn't win this battle I think he's won the war in as much as he's finally had his side of the story told in public & many more people now see her for what she is, aided in part by her own behaviour.

Just my opinion!
I think your summary of JD’s relationship with women is pretty astute.

ive read about how abusive JD’s mother was, and when he was 15 his father walked out on them because he couldn’t take it anymore. I get that he was a victim and probably very vulnerable but there’s something very sad about the fact he left his kids to deal with the monster of a mother and fend for themselves.

I was surprised that photos exist of Johnny with his mother in older age and that he kept a relationship up with her. IME (narc parents) it really is better to cut ties, create distance and heal from afar. Accept they won’t change and stop hanging on in the hopes they will.

I really think JD maintaining a close relationship with his mother, has prevented him from doing a lot of work on himself and healing, and potentially stopped him from relating to women in a healthier way
 
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I've just seen the texts between AH and Josh, where he talks about bringing "them" with him when he comes over to JD/AHs penthouse for dinner. He goes on to say to her that "you don't use them just show them to him".

There's a Photo that shows what "them" is ....... big sharp knives. KNIVES.
Rewiiiiiiiiiiind. Who is Josh and how many knives? Where can we see this?

Is this some kinda kinky tit Turdle has got on Depp?


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