Jesy Nelson #2 Is she back or white? Either way her song is sh..

[MarinaScorpio]

I don’t mind the song (mostly because I like the original) but find it strange she didn’t release original music as her first solo song. Surely after all those years in a group, you want to show what you can do on your own. This feels like a third single to me! She has missed an opportunity.

I think she just wanted to show everyone how well connected she is and that she's friends with Diddy & Nicki Minaj...

 

[weeboldyin41]

The Guardian review on the song is sending me lmaooo

 

[QueenC93]

I think she just wanted to show everyone how well connected she is and that she's friends with Diddy & Nicki Minaj...

This.
She’s definitely one of those who would be a name dropper.

 

[Penguin86]

Nicki Minaj is overrated.
Didn't LM already do a song with her anyway

 

[TraceyJacks]

This sentiment is always funny to me and this is not an attack on you as I am just noting that the history of rock and roll framed as a white genre is an interesting one.

Black Americans also pioneered Rock and Roll. People can/will debate this and the general history for those who aren't into reading about popular of modern music has done a pretty good job of erasing how instrumental Black Americans were in almost all forms of modern music to America and a lot of the threads of musical arrangement followed from 'negro spirituals' sung by slaves and their descendants. And also how these slaves bought over the kora/ngoni an instrument similar to guitar from West Africa during the slave trade.

A lot of racist people have often said that black people only contribute to 'culture building' through music and dance while also historically deriding jazz, rap, hip hop, etc. as 'noise' that caters to 'low cultured' people.

Many rock legends like the Rolling Stones and the Beatles apparently had managers/promoters going to black clubs and listening to the songs and poaching them. The Rolling Stones early in their career acknowledged and looked up to a lot of Black American artists as mentors/performed with them and most notably had a good relationship with Chuck Berry. And music was even more segerated back then (say hello to 'Race records' the name of a very old record label that marketed ragtime, jazz, blues, and soul music sung by black people). And music sung by these Black Artists was simply known as "race music" and eventually Latin music was put under this label.

Elvis is called the king of rock and roll but Little Richard was right to call this "a matter of opinion" depending on who you talk to. People called him bitter and hateful. But it is a well-known fact that record executives listened to the music of Black American's like Big Mama Thorton and Chuck Berry and thought something good was there and just how much more marketable and 'better' it would be coming from a white face. And again since the record labels were segregated there was very little chance back then of black musicians wanting to work with them either. But for some reason if black people point this well-documented history out, it is often dismissed as being politically correct and rewriting history to coddle because "everyone is inspired by someone". And while that is true and art is and will always be a cultural exchange, this was blatant and purposeful and done very much with race in mind and who is considered at the bottom vs. who is considered at the top in the collective consciousness and memory.

So when people say 'take race out of it' or 'stop making everything about race', it is like arrogance and a slap in the face. Race plays into so many decisions, past and present, and especially in a country that may have ended slavery and segregation but then especially with ending slavery then doubled down on these narratives with laws (redlining, etc), prohibiting access to valued resources in every part of life from the reconstruction period onward for many Black people. Music historically was one of the only avenues for many black Americans feeling the strains of racist laws and policies prohibiting them from equal chances and opportunities as a way to carve out a chance at a better living. Music conservatories for Classical music were more accepting of black applicants but would still not allow for them to be a part of professional orchestras so they had to make their own and hire their own composers. But again, pointing out the long/complex/ and racialized development towards modern music would just be making everything "about race" to some again.

People also forget that many White Americans both in the general public and those in charge of social policies/laws initially hated Elvis when he first arrived on the scene for singing music that was considered black and making his voice sound black/ shaking his hips sexually like a hypersexual black person. They felt his music was evil and Satanic because it was blurring the lines of contact between the different sexes and more importantly racial boundaries which would lead to that dangerous 'miscengation'. They felt he opened up the road towards civil rights with his behavior.

absolutely nothing incorrect about this post! all music is of black origin.

 

[PeonyBlush]

I had a look at NoHun_’s Instagram post and the comments and I just felt so angry so had to quickly get off of it. I can’t believe the amount of LM fans who are sticking up for Jesy and criticising Leighanne. You can tell these fans have absolutely no idea about black fishing or even want to educate themselves on it to understand why Leigh is obviously so angry and hurt. And the problem is with Jesy is that so many fans can’t see past her mental health problems and actually allow themselves to see that she’s massively in the wrong and her mental health has nothing to do with it. And I feel like Jesy is playing on that aswell hence the amount of interviews she’s done talking about how awful she felt being in LM so she knows fans are too scared to hold her accountable.

 

[hereforthegossip21]

Nicki Minaj is overrated.
Didn't LM already do a song with her anyway

Yeah they did plus she said in an interview that they’re now label mates so really it wasn’t a big reach if she’s on the same label for her to be able to get her on a song, I’m sure Nicki couldn’t give a tit who’s song she’s on and not quite the Bezzies that Jesys currently trying to push! Pathetic girl.

 

[TraceyJacks]

I had a look at NoHun_’s Instagram post and the comments and I just felt so angry so had to quickly get off of it. I can’t believe the amount of LM fans who are sticking up for Jesy and criticising Leighanne. You can tell these fans have absolutely no idea about black fishing or even want to educate themselves on it. And the problem is with Jesy is that so many fans can’t see past her mental health problems and actually allow themselves to see that she’s massively in the wrong and her mental health has nothing to do with it. And I feel like Jesy is playing on that aswell hence the amount of interviews she’s done talking about how awful she felt being in LM so she knows fans are too scared to hold her accountable.

you can have mental health challenges and still be a head, one doesn’t cancel out the other! People really need to separate the two it can be both at once bah

 

[Ronlonglegs]

I don’t mind the song (mostly because I like the original) but find it strange she didn’t release original music as her first solo song. Surely after all those years in a group, you want to show what you can do on your own. This feels like a third single to me! She has missed an opportunity.

I thought this then i thought back to robbie williams leaving take that and releasing freedom (a george michael cover) as his first single.... robbie did alright in the end

 

[jackolantern]

I thought this then i thought back to robbie williams leaving take that and releasing freedom (a george michael cover) as his first single.... robbie did alright in the end

Robbie! Ahahahahahahaha Jesy can bleeping dream, she'll not even be 10% as popular

 

[Snoopysnoop123]

I thought this then i thought back to robbie williams leaving take that and releasing freedom (a george michael cover) as his first single.... robbie did alright in the end

I haven’t heard anything from Robbie Williams in years? Or have I missed something

 

[jackolantern]

I haven’t heard anything from Robbie Williams in years? Or have I missed something

He's worth around $300 million and is one of the best selling artists of all time (77 million). Jesy is apparently worth $3 million. So yeah, soloist Jesy and Robbie do not go in the same sentence

 

[DrtCrl]

I don’t mind the song (mostly because I like the original) but find it strange she didn’t release original music as her first solo song. Surely after all those years in a group, you want to show what you can do on your own. This feels like a third single to me! She has missed an opportunity.

SO much this! Her whole thing about going solo was to make the music she’s always wanted to so surely that means something different and original?!

I haven’t heard anything from Robbie Williams in years? Or have I missed something

Interestingly enough after all his anti Take That/Barlow stuff when he went solo he seems to be massively keen to hook up with them at any opportunity now. Same with Geri and the Spice Girls. Almost as if it doesn’t do to burn ones bridges when one leaves a band ….

 

[Lemontree04]

Some good news:
Her new song is down to #19 on Spotify UK, out of the Top200 of US and Global Spotify charts.

 

[KINGAA]

edit: for those who don’t know, he did brows on the girls but now only Jesy. They’ve all recently unfollowed him!

 

[Lemontree04]

OF COURSE her friends think it's bullying, of course

Not a fan of Amber but she's right on this one:

 

[GossWhore]

Tbh NoHun just reaffirms to me as a black woman, we really only have ourselves. Its sad..

But back to Jesy. Saw this tweet. And yeah. The song VANISHED from Spotify top 200. And is number 6 on iTunes.

 

[stampystamp]

Tbh NoHun just reaffirms to me as a black woman, we really only have ourselves. Its sad..

But back to Jesy. Saw this tweet. And yeah. The song VANISHED from Spotify top 200. And is number 6 on iTunes.

I have your back. I wish everyone else did too

 

[Jellybb]

I feel horrible for saying this but you just know that jesy will come back playing the mental health card i am so OVER her going on about being the heavier one from little mix give it a bleeping rest love

 

[weeboldyin41]

lmaoooooooo of course