Alansbigplate
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Her mum is moving in and co sleeping with tenn while Alfie goes to Australia!? What an absolute piss take
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while at the same time playing at being 'the girlfriend' and religiously not moving the muscles in her forehead ... how is she not just exhausted
LavenderMoss
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I think Jessie looked significantly more similar to Bebe at her highest weight. Her face was much more ‘full’.
I remember this premiere fairly well as I was slightly shocked that Jessie was actually the eldest of the bunch. I think her insecurities made her seem far more vulnerable ( a slight air of naivety that made me assume she was younger).
Alfie has mentioned and hinted many a time that the Mother ( of Jessie and Bebe) views food as fuel and not for enjoyment. I can imagine that potentially that may have caused some self loathing ( feelings of loss of control) and guilt if Jessie ‘enjoyed’ food that wasn’t consumed purely for the nutritional benefits.
So... all that to say... it is obvious weight is a serious and complex problem for Jessie. I doubt she views that time as anything but horrifying ( even if she states otherwise in regards to relying on her writing skills). Her weight has fluctuated a fair amount of the years ( understandable considering her three young children).
I do wonder if the pressure ( from the mother over food and the ‘bad’ and ‘good’ food) led Jessie to feel her weight was being punished with lack of roles...instead of feeling like she was experiencing a natural lull in obtaining roles.
( I know that the average actress is heavily encouraged to maintain a set weight ...but Jessie was hardly going to nab the role of Rey in Star Wars was she! She fits far easier into off beat comedies)
Perhaps because she generally only fits into ‘quirky’ or ‘highly strung’ type casting she felt pressure to at least be skinny if her looks weren’t valued the same as Bebe ...
(I’m not saying that is the case as I think Jessie is refreshingly natural and exceptionally lovely/pretty...just waffling about why she seems so repetitive about how awful that time in her life was)
I remember this premiere fairly well as I was slightly shocked that Jessie was actually the eldest of the bunch. I think her insecurities made her seem far more vulnerable ( a slight air of naivety that made me assume she was younger).
Alfie has mentioned and hinted many a time that the Mother ( of Jessie and Bebe) views food as fuel and not for enjoyment. I can imagine that potentially that may have caused some self loathing ( feelings of loss of control) and guilt if Jessie ‘enjoyed’ food that wasn’t consumed purely for the nutritional benefits.
So... all that to say... it is obvious weight is a serious and complex problem for Jessie. I doubt she views that time as anything but horrifying ( even if she states otherwise in regards to relying on her writing skills). Her weight has fluctuated a fair amount of the years ( understandable considering her three young children).
I do wonder if the pressure ( from the mother over food and the ‘bad’ and ‘good’ food) led Jessie to feel her weight was being punished with lack of roles...instead of feeling like she was experiencing a natural lull in obtaining roles.
( I know that the average actress is heavily encouraged to maintain a set weight ...but Jessie was hardly going to nab the role of Rey in Star Wars was she! She fits far easier into off beat comedies)
Perhaps because she generally only fits into ‘quirky’ or ‘highly strung’ type casting she felt pressure to at least be skinny if her looks weren’t valued the same as Bebe ...
(I’m not saying that is the case as I think Jessie is refreshingly natural and exceptionally lovely/pretty...just waffling about why she seems so repetitive about how awful that time in her life was)
Owlish
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I was just listening to the latest episode of Jessie and Bebe’s podcast.
Something I found interesting was Jessie’s lack of consideration towards how others might feel. When Bebe talked about her friend who had lost his mum suddenly and then had to deal with all the fall out from that (selling her flat etc) by himself, Bebe was full of empathy about what a difficult situation that was for him. Jessie just focused on that fact that he had no siblings and it was so hard for her as she was grieving her sibling’s loss as well as her own.
I don’t doubt it was a horrendously traumatic experience and a huge loss. But other people can and are living through terrible things too. We can still acknowledge that and demonstrate empathy towards them. It doesn’t negate each individual’s experience.
I also found it really odd that Jessie gets her mum to do all her life-admin! Jessie’s a mother of 4 children and can’t sort out her utility bill without her mum?? My mind is blown
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On that point, why hasn’t her mum empowered her to learn how to do it herself and built her confidence up to be independent? That’s our role as parents I think. Not to “do for” our children. It holds them back in the long term.
Something I found interesting was Jessie’s lack of consideration towards how others might feel. When Bebe talked about her friend who had lost his mum suddenly and then had to deal with all the fall out from that (selling her flat etc) by himself, Bebe was full of empathy about what a difficult situation that was for him. Jessie just focused on that fact that he had no siblings and it was so hard for her as she was grieving her sibling’s loss as well as her own.
I don’t doubt it was a horrendously traumatic experience and a huge loss. But other people can and are living through terrible things too. We can still acknowledge that and demonstrate empathy towards them. It doesn’t negate each individual’s experience.
I also found it really odd that Jessie gets her mum to do all her life-admin! Jessie’s a mother of 4 children and can’t sort out her utility bill without her mum?? My mind is blown
. On that point, why hasn’t her mum empowered her to learn how to do it herself and built her confidence up to be independent? That’s our role as parents I think. Not to “do for” our children. It holds them back in the long term.
I’m listening to the latest podcast (am at around the 22 min mark) and am truly baffled. They can talk about grief all they like, that’s completely their right but I’m just so confused ?
They genuinely seem to think that they’re the only people to have experienced premature death or that it’s so extremely uncommon that it sets them apart from most people. When, in reality, I’d say the majority of people have, or at least 40%. they really have an inability to see past themselves which is q concerning
They genuinely seem to think that they’re the only people to have experienced premature death or that it’s so extremely uncommon that it sets them apart from most people. When, in reality, I’d say the majority of people have, or at least 40%. they really have an inability to see past themselves which is q concerning
ooh scandalous
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But Jessie, guess what, you’re not living in a tribe, you live in London, and it’s 2022 and in white middle class British culture dads are *kind* of expected to show their face a bit in their kids life, especially when so young. Make all the excuses you want, but Alfie’s not innocently relishing the opportunity to build his career, he’s being a dirty old dog at the same time and he is SHAMEFUL.There’s nothing more laughable than a privileged, upper middle class white woman trying to justify the absent father of her children by saying “it’s what tribal cultures do!”
I mean
blueberriesarenice
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I could have written your post! Am one of six, mum and dad weren’t very interested past the cute stage. I was a pretty neglected adolescent and it took years out of my teen and adult years to unpack all that. I only have one child because I want to pour all my attention and resources into her, bit extreme maybe but I try to avoid making my Narc mothers mistakes all the time.
17daize
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Jessie and Bebe Cave #2 Jessie Cave and the Poundland Russell Brand - new thread? Thanks to @amsh and @boxoftreasures for the title but I can't seem to make one!?
blueberriesarenice
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Oh god this made me cringe! Letting your negging, immature manboy partner pick a crap baby name for the kid he was less than enthusiastic about having, I mean a football player name is also hardly on brand for the hipster family. Hope they change it again…
TapToBoreMeRigid
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Their home looks like a flat I went back to for a party after a night out. The only difference was everyone, (bar me), was huffing petrol.
Also interesting how jessie said after this baby is born she wants to drink more alcohol?? slightly odd since she came out as basically tea-total and alfie keeps saying he's an alcoholic
I think anxiety and autism share a few traits so can understand the confusion, but also I'd rather not speculate
re: cosleeping / WIKs, she talks about the "onslaught" of comments saying "she needs to get a cleaner"?!? as far as I saw it was one commenter and she's still letting it affect her
it's kinda refreshing her talking about how stressful having small children can be but also beggars belief why she's decided to have another one so soon!
side note but does she believe people were still foraging for food in 1937
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ooh scandalous
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Felt myself do a double take when she mentioned Tenn has 4 bottles of formula a night… as a toddler! And has a nibble of pain au chocolat for lunch because he has no appetite and therefore not getting the nutrition he needs. Why churn out all these children if you can’t properly look after the ones you have. I find it so selfish and bizarre.
true, their relationship dynamics are so odd and I think will always be criticised. To be honest I think Bebe was extreme when she said this is all people who hate her and Jessie - this is one of the tamest threads on here! And I think I can say most people here are fans to some degree and they don’t get ripped to shreds or anything it’s just light conversation and criticism
Does Alfie's latest post also not sit quite right with anyone? Alluding to being on UC in order to pay for designers and creatives to help him make money in future. I assumed UC is for rent, living costs ect. It seems not quite right that Jessie is covering his living costs but because he is low income (not sure how much you're paid for gigs) he can claim and use it for designers.. To me I just think he needs a part time day job to fund his comedy career, not taxpayers 
Yeah they have this v annoying tendency to make every single thing about them sound like it's super unique and means that they are so different that most other people can't comprehend what it's like - like having 4 siblings, experiencing premature loss etc, being actresses that aren't thin, getting pregnant at 26, long hair. The one night stand to baby to relationship I admit is very unique so I don't mind if she talks about how that sets her apart but the other stuff isn't as abnormal as they think it is - wish they'd quit doing that and realise that it's ok to have experiences that others relate toBit off topic guys but does anyone notice how Jessie always refers to Tenn as 'the baby.' At first I found it curious and now I find myself doing it in reference to my old child and its super annoyingAlso I'd really love to get through a podcast that doesn't reference about breastfeeding and pregnancy at some point. I'm a mum of 2 and don't get me wrong I find that chat insightful mostly, but I always get the vibe that Jessie holds being a mother of 3 as something so unique to her and she has to juggle so much that NOONE else can understand, that if Bebe happened to have 3 kids down the line, she wouldn't have that thing that makes her different anymore and I wonder what she'd talk about. I'm interested in hearing about her hobbies (like more on the yoga/gym class thing she did), where she goes out in London when, more details on her house move, her parenting style, friends, the business side of being an artist/actress ect rather than most of her personal chat being about weight and babies. It's getting a bit one note for me
maytoseptember
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I’m surprised you don’t think Ealing is affluent.
They are strange! Well, I can only talk about Jessie because I know nothing about Bebe, other than she seems to be hanging on Jessie’s meagre coattails (and Jessie is only popular thanks to Harry Potter stans).
Even the way Jessie dresses - which comes across as so contrived, almost like she’s trying to look as ugly as possible - is a look only a posh girl can achieve. When you’re posh it’s artsy and boho to look like that… but if you’re poor, you’re just a mess.
Jessie sells her doodles to pay rent because she doesn’t want to get a 9-5 job, and probably thinks it’s beneath her after her small part in the HP franchise. No doubt Bebe is the same. Schooled to believe that they can just waft around being arty and doing the occasional bit of work in the arts (whether that’s acting, writing or performing) because their parents will keep propping them up well past retirement.
I can’t stand people like this, as you can probably tell
maytoseptember
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She’s the physical embodiment of a pick me girl. Pretending to be cool with that man child constantly dangling the threat of walking out on her and the children. Putting up with anything just to please him.
This is also A1 pick me girl behaviour.
maytoseptember
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Mothers like her, usually the “attachment” ones, are ALWAYS like this. They make choices that make them feel miserable and exhausted (like co-sleeping and breastfeeding for years on end) but because they’ve convinced themselves they’re following the One True Way of mothering, they have to console themselves with feeling smug and superior.