Jack Monroe #8 Grates meats, deletes tweets and when she denies it we've got the receipts.

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This feels a little bit like finding out your new therapist was the person who mugged you 🤷‍♀️

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Agreed. Credit where it's due, that's a good response (even if it was demanded by the producers — who knows) and she was right to offer Gem the chance to continue the conversation away from the hounds.
Sorry but I don't buy it. Its a ploy nothing more, nothing less.
 
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It might be forced, but I think it’s fairly decent if her.
She’ll probably delete it anyway.
 
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My god that was hard work. Nigella is soothing and amazing then it is so jarring going back to the manic bit!
 
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I am confused by one thing though - many of the foods which are called ‘fancy’ are literally other culture’s staple foods. E.g. miso is the equivalent of stock in Japan ( May have used wrong metaphor but it’s used loads and is not remotely fancy in Japan). It just feels a bit wrong in 2020, in a country with multiple ethnicities to be acting as though it’s really strange foreign foodstuffs on mainstream media. Especially when most supermarkets now stock it, and cooking shows have dealt with it since the 90s. Possibly in the aisles people don’t go up but I live in a small market town in East of England and all our supermarkets stock variations of this stuff including my really small local sainsburys. She isn’t that old so grew up after the food explosion took place in the late 90s.
 
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I don't agree that the 'apology' is decent at all, if you're on a BBC licence-payer funded show, the public is entitled to criticise/ comment, hell they have their own Points of View show. I don't think it's at all appropriate to hunt down every negative bit of criticism and shine a light on it on social media. Jack is the TV 'personality' not Gem or any of the other thousands of people watching, it's her who is opening herself to criticism.

The apology is a way of making Jack out to look amazing well after the fact/ rewrite history/ cover her arse after she's tweeted before she thought, as usual.

It's also a massive faux-pology - sorry this is happening to you, not sorry for what I did (and I understand why what I did was wrong) - absolutely no remorse and that's why the it misses the mark
 
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To be fair, this is pretty ground-breaking stuff. She has really hit her stride now and is putting her knowledge to great use on social media.


 
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I didn’t get an apology on Twitter, instead she deleted her tweets to me. She must have seen there were a few of us who got the same treatment as Gem did. However, with Gem she publicly started the row so I suppose she had to be seen to trying to make amends.
 
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The only reason she's apologising is that people have worked out what a nasty piece of work she really is, and its becoming more widely known. As no doubt people have started following her on Twitter off the back of this show and will be probably shocked by her "real" side as apposed to the giggly, ditzy person they've been watching on screen. Her mask will slip soon enough!
 
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I am confused by one thing though - many of the foods which are called ‘fancy’ are literally other culture’s staple foods. E.g. miso is the equivalent of stock in Japan ( May have used wrong metaphor but it’s used loads and is not remotely fancy in Japan). It just feels a bit wrong in 2020, in a country with multiple ethnicities to be acting as though it’s really strange foreign foodstuffs on mainstream media. Especially when most supermarkets now stock it, and cooking shows have dealt with it since the 90s. Possibly in the aisles people don’t go up but I live in a small market town in East of England and all our supermarkets stock variations of this stuff including my really small local sainsburys. She isn’t that old so grew up after the food explosion took place in the late 90s.
Exactly this. Miso is about £2 a jar, and adds real depth to a dish. I actually put some in my chilli con carne. I love the Unami undertone it gives. She’s probably never had it though. Her palate is almost right wing ‘ not eating any of this foreign muck’ and just eating the British bastardisation of things. What you think, a fry up tomorrow?
 
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It’s funny considering she’s on Twitter for 20 hours per day that that apology came straight after the show. I’m quite sure she’d have seen that tweet prior to this morning, it had her tagged in it!

She’s obviously been told to do it.
 
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I didn’t get an apology on Twitter, instead she deleted her tweets to me. She must have seen there were a few of us who got the same treatment as Gem did. However, with Gem she publicly started the row so I suppose she had to be seen to trying to make amends.
JM has a habit of starting the rows, let her twittertwats dogpile the person, then she backtracks to look like the good guy. What a load of horse pucky. That is no amend at all.
 
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I hope that she thinks a bit more about replying to people like Gem after the comments she wrote today. Gem was clear in saying it had happened to others.

What I don’t get, and think JM really needs to work on, is her response to critique. I’m a teacher and I get feedback, comments, complaints from:
- Ofsted once every 3-4 years (not necessarily specific to me, but my performance involved somewhere)
- our school improvement partner, a head from another school, who visits twice a year
- my head, who line manages me as part of performance management
- colleagues as part of professional development things where we peer observe
- teaching assistants in my classroom as we chat about what worked and what didn’t
- parents - everything from lovely cards and comments, to backhanded compliments, to them being annoyed about something informally to written complaints
- children (I liked x teacher better, you have a moustache, your sunglasses make you look modern, this is boring/ fun, why is your face red?)

I wanted to list it in full as so much of my work is about feedback when I think about it properly.

I don’t get why JM so surprised that there will be feedback on social media. In all lines of work, there will be critiquing, a need to improve, someone showing you how to do something better, suggestions from people who do know better and those who don’t. Lots of comments from fans (although I agree, apart from Naomi, who is actually making this stuff?) giving positive comments and a few saying the show doesn’t quite work.

Over and out. That’s been building up over a few days 🤣
 
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It’s funny considering she’s on Twitter for 20 hours per day that that apology came straight after the show. I’m quite sure she’d have seen that tweet prior to this morning, it had her tagged in it!

She’s obviously been told to do it.
If told to do it makes it even worse. It shows moral bankruptcy.
 
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I am confused by one thing though - many of the foods which are called ‘fancy’ are literally other culture’s staple foods. E.g. miso is the equivalent of stock in Japan ( May have used wrong metaphor but it’s used loads and is not remotely fancy in Japan). It just feels a bit wrong in 2020, in a country with multiple ethnicities to be acting as though it’s really strange foreign foodstuffs on mainstream media. Especially when most supermarkets now stock it, and cooking shows have dealt with it since the 90s. Possibly in the aisles people don’t go up but I live in a small market town in East of England and all our supermarkets stock variations of this stuff including my really small local sainsburys. She isn’t that old so grew up after the food explosion took place in the late 90s.
Agreed. Someone said on the last thread that it has a flavour of xenophobia about it. She could reasonably say that some of these things are vastly overpriced in a standard supermarket and that it's a lot cheaper to go to a store that specialises in those ingredients - available online to those who don't have them locally. But they aren't remotely 'fancy'.
 
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I hope that she thinks a bit more about replying to people like Gem after the comments she wrote today. Gem was clear in saying it had happened to others.

What I don’t get, and think JM really needs to work on, is her response to critique. I’m a teacher and I get feedback, comments, complaints from:
- Ofsted once every 3-4 years (not necessarily specific to me, but my performance involved somewhere)
- our school improvement partner, a head from another school, who visits twice a year
- my head, who line manages me as part of performance management
- colleagues as part of professional development things where we peer observe
- teaching assistants in my classroom as we chat about what worked and what didn’t
- parents - everything from lovely cards and comments, to backhanded compliments, to them being annoyed about something informally to written complaints
- children (I liked x teacher better, you have a moustache, your sunglasses make you look modern, this is boring/ fun, why is your face red?)

I wanted to list it in full as so much of my work is about feedback when I think about it properly.

I don’t get why JM so surprised that there will be feedback on social media. In all lines of work, there will be critiquing, a need to improve, someone showing you how to do something better, suggestions from people who do know better and those who don’t. Lots of comments from fans (although I agree, apart from Naomi, who is actually making this stuff?) giving positive comments and a few saying the show doesn’t quite work.

Over and out. That’s been building up over a few days 🤣
SAME - why doe kids ALWAYS point out your face is red?? Like sorry thats my skin tone now pipe down.

Can i draw attention back to the fact Jack allegedly knows what her mob get up too - the fact her pinned tweet says EMBARGO LIFTED - the very idea that she was the one who called on and off the mob.
 
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