Jack Monroe #523 Everything she does is pointless busywork that solves nothing

[Mrs Peel]

That Greenbelt statement is a lot like the Shattenstone article - when you skim over it, it seems to be pro-guest, but it's actually quite damning.

"We have, of course, kept abreast of the various developments in Jack’s life and work. Along with many others we read Simon Hattenstone’s warts-and-all interview in the Guardian at the start of the year." Ouch.

"As Simon Hattenstone says in his article: As for her critics, the say she exaggerates her influence, makes claims she cannot back up, and is not transparent about money." Ouch.

"Our eyes are open to all this." Ouch.

"Jack’s is not the only or most important voice and presence in this critical area of our life together. Far from it." OUCH.

"That’s why we are working closely with Trussell Trust (and Church Action on Poverty, Christians Against Poverty and Citizens UK) to welcome people with lived experience of poverty to the festival in greater numbers this year." OUCH.

The rest of it is fluff.

 

[Sensible Susan]

I could be wrong, but it looks as though the statement was also put out on Twitter as a reply to the squig who’d been vocal about raising concerns re guest at Greenbelt, rather than a specific tweet on its own, which I think is super telling.

They waited to agree a statement with Jack‘s agent (and by extension, Jack herself) AND have posted it quite sneakily as a reply to one person rather than an individual tweet. It just screams PR/damage control/shadiness rather than them being any sort of genuine in their statement, when they know fine well that many people have voiced concern about Jack being platformed at Greenbelt.

And of course the statement itself is a load of insincere bs, the gist of which is ‘yeah she’s done bad things but we don’t care’. Bad bad vibes all round.

I noticed that. Also, they've replied to a person who restricts replies à la Jack, so a very small comment club

 

[griftalo]

I'm interested to hear your personal points of view about what guest would have to do to satisfy you that she is truly sorry so she could seek some sort of redemption.
There are multiple reasons why we're all pissed off with her so it would be very difficult.
I've been wracking my brains today trying to think what would satisfy me.
I think that we can safely assume that no-one is going to get any refunds. They should, but she SHAN'T.
For me she'd have to pause Patreon until she can offer some regular digital content instead of physical rewards.
Make her Patreon public like most other providers. That one would definitely give her an upper hand as I think most of the squigs would just shrug and keep throwing money at her.
Any fundraising should be done through a legitimate platform.
A professional Twitter account for signposting/campaigning and a personal one where she can lie, moan about her crumbly shoulder and flash her minge as much as she likes. At least the latter would be for her most avid fans and everyone else could avoid (like any other normal Twitter account).
I popped over to Mastadon to follow someone I know and did a quick search for guest. She is there but there are only a few mirrored Twitter posts with virtually no engagement.

For me nothing would satisfy, but as to what she should do;
End Patreon
Stop begging
Issue a public apology for all the cosplaying nonsense
Seek treatment and stick it out.
Refund all the suelee money
Learn how to correctly make all the recipes she’s offered up as her own but they’re just copied recipes tweaked to NOT WORK/be worse.
Not own pets unless

I think that’s enough, it’s before 8am still - do you want me to StOp BrEaTHinG??

 

[blueorchid]

That Greenbelt statement is a lot like the Shattenstone article - when you skim over it, it seems to be pro-guest, but it's actually quite damning.

"We have, of course, kept abreast of the various developments in Jack’s life and work. Along with many others we read Simon Hattenstone’s warts-and-all interview in the Guardian at the start of the year." Ouch.

"As Simon Hattenstone says in his article: As for her critics, the say she exaggerates her influence, makes claims she cannot back up, and is not transparent about money." Ouch.

"Our eyes are open to all this." Ouch.

"Jack’s is not the only or most important voice and presence in this critical area of our life together. Far from it." OUCH.

"That’s why we are working closely with Trussell Trust (and Church Action on Poverty, Christians Against Poverty and Citizens UK) to welcome people with lived experience of poverty to the festival in greater numbers this year." OUCH.

The rest of it is fluff.

I think it’s a pretty good master class in pass agg / read between the lines PR
She won’t be back next year

 

[blurstoftimes]

i am obsessed with all these new fraus show up speaking in fluent Jackie-lingo - i wonder if any other thread has had so many delurkers appear this week?!

ps can we please stop wishing for jack to be disinvited to Greenbelt? i just want to hear her sing again

 

[Dogmuck]

i am obsessed with all these new fraus show up speaking in fluent Jackie-lingo - i wonder if any other thread has had so many delurkers appear this week?!

ps can we please stop wishing for jack to be disinvited to Greenbelt? i just want to hear her sing again

And so familiar with quoting/gifs too…makes you think I’ve clocked 32 newbies - unprecedented

 

[nothanksbabes]

She needs to be publicly shamed for every lie she's ever told and every penny she's obtained under false pretenses. People have been vilified and cancelled for way, way less. I'm not usually am advocate of a public pile-on but she has got away with a decade of pathological lying and profiting at the expense of genuine poor people and I'm really tired of seeing poisonous narcissists get away with whatever they feel like.

She'd bleat about her bad mentals but I couldn't give a shiny rit about people who use vague suicide threats as coercive control and manipulation. She needs to get in the bin.

 

[Valiofthedolls]

It's Mrs Ex I feel sorry for - what with guest gatecrashing their family caravan holidays etc.

I'd not be able to cope with that.

She LEFT. Jack’s ex/son’s dad and Mrs Ex aren’t together anymore.

Hence Jack twittering about “our” children when she tags along on holiday with her son’s dad and his children to deliberately upset Mrs Ex (having stalked her into Mrs Gloss etc etc). I can’t even imagine a decade of that poor woman having to deal with guest’s histrionics, drama and complete nonsense. DIRE. Just like guest’s mum’s roasties.

 

[Cucumberthunder]

Cowardly statement from greenbelt, although damning in it's own way. They aren't saying any of the accusations are untrue, just that they will allow her to attend despite them.

 

[Katkat]

She needs to be publicly shamed for every lie she's ever told and every penny she's obtained under false pretenses. People have been vilified and cancelled for way, way less. I'm not usually am advocate of a public pile-on but she has got away with a decade of pathological lying and profiting at the expense of genuine poor people and I'm really tired of seeing poisonous narcissists get away with whatever they feel like.

She'd bleat about her bad mentals but I couldn't give a shiny rit about people who use vague suicide threats as coercive control and manipulation. She needs to get in the bin.

All of this
It’s nice that people just want her to pause her Patreon etc, but it’s much deeper than that. Guest needs to piss off and get a real job.

 

[Mr Krabs]

I thought if they were a public figure they could be unsquigged even below that? She’s a journalist, surely she fits now?

I know earlier when she wasn’t naming JM we kept squigging out of respect for her desire for privacy but the ship has rather sailed on that now!

Agreed. It is quite silly to make posts like “Her first name is the same as Nicola Sturgeon and her surname is the same as Glenn Miller” when she’s a well regarded food journo. But 10k still seems to be the rules.

I found out who she was by putting the text of her Twitter posts into their search anyway, so it’s not difficult to unmask a squig.

 

[Mrs Peel]

Agreed. It is quite silly to make posts like “Her first name is the same as Nicola Sturgeon and her surname is the same as Glenn Miller” when she’s a well regarded food journo. But 10k still seems to be the rules.

I found out who she was by putting the text of her Twitter posts into their search anyway, so it’s not difficult to unmask a squig.

I agree. A twitter search of the text is better, otherwise you end up scrolling through the 7 other people whose first name is Nicola and surname is Miller.

 

[Whaa?]

Seven weeks till Greenbelt. Is Jack going to atone by offering Sue Lee donators the opportunity to get their money back, or will she provide the details of what she has done with the cash? Is she going to update her Patreon by providing her £3.50 tier supporters some posts? etc, etc?

 

[MavisBeacon]

i am obsessed with all these new fraus show up speaking in fluent Jackie-lingo - i wonder if any other thread has had so many delurkers appear this week?!

ps can we please stop wishing for jack to be disinvited to Greenbelt? i just want to hear her sing again

I've been unfaithful with the Frauen over in the Lucy Letby threads and there's been a big wave of BNE- fluent folk over there too

 

[markcorriganscrisps]

About 18-24 months in HMP Styal.

They even have a restaurant in the grounds which inmates staff. Guest could finally learn how to cook.

One of the best work lunches I've ever had was in a male open prison where they catered to work towards their quals (). JM could never.

I would like her to stop lying, stop buying pets, stop adopting vulnerabilities to use as a shield (I do think she has several, but have my doubts about many), apologise, donate her PayPal coffers to relevant charities associated with said vulnerabilities and go and get a job. An actual job. Twitter is not a job.

 

[RandomFishOils]

I noticed that. Also, they've replied to a person who restricts replies à la Jack, so a very small comment club

And also replying to the original Tweet, which is over three months old. In Twitter terms, that’s Jurassic. However, as a PR frau , I’m actually quite amazed that Kruger Crowne/guest actually signed that statement off. Previous commenters are correct, it’s an iron fist in a velvet glove.

 

[lilykestrel]

All this talk about Greenbelt and I can't stop thinking about

Spoiler: peep show

kicking back with a bit of Barchester

 

[Nottonightbabe]

I would like Jack to just piss off out of the public eye. She's not capable of having a public role without manipulating people and causing harm, so for that reason, I'd like her to softly, gently, duck off.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

She LEFT. Jack’s ex/son’s dad and Mrs Ex aren’t together anymore.

Hence Jack twittering about “our” children when she tags along on holiday with her son’s dad and his children to deliberately upset Mrs Ex (having stalked her into Mrs Gloss etc etc). I can’t even imagine a decade of that poor woman having to deal with guest’s histrionics, drama and complete nonsense. DIRE. Just like guest’s mum’s roasties.

On my word!
I didn't know that - poor woman!

Guest has a lot on her conscience (or would if she had one). I don't doubt that guest's behaviour massively contributed to the breakdown of the relationship. And SB's dad will probably never, ever manage a relationship that isn't deliberately undermined by you-know-who.

She really is beyond vile.

 

[Valiofthedolls]

Christ, that poem! Poundshop version of the fabulous John Cooper-Clarke

Spoiler: It gets worse

Jan 2013. Can you believe this was her actual newspaper column?! Southend Echo has a lot to answer for indulging her in all her nonsensical tit, way before the Guardian came calling

ETA here also is a very early precursor to ONS changing the way they measure inflation where Jack (writes yet another tedious letter “to the newspaper” in which she) attempts to take all the credit for something that’s duck all to do with her.