Jack Monroe #523 Everything she does is pointless busywork that solves nothing

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My list of what guest could do to mitigate her actions is quite simple.
1) Shut down the Patreon
2) Apologize. Not an ouchy shoulder/bad mentals/ebil trolls excuse-fest, but acknowledging the impact of her behaviour and taking responsibility for her decision to engage in that behaviour.
3) Full accounting for the Sue Lee funds and paying them back to the donors, or a genuine plan for payback to donors if the funds have been spent elsewhere. (Allegedly) donating the funds to an (alleged) charity doesn't count as payback.
But Jack won't do that.

Best she will do is yet another Me a culpa where she explains it isn't actually her fault.
 
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Agreed. It is quite silly to make posts like “Her first name is the same as Nicola Sturgeon and her surname is the same as Glenn Miller” when she’s a well regarded food journo. But 10k still seems to be the rules.

I found out who she was by putting the text of her Twitter posts into their search anyway, so it’s not difficult to unmask a squig.
I think 10k is the firm rules for a thread of their own but I thought it was 10k or public figure (blue tick used to be the standard but now Elon’s borked that!) for posting the uncensored screenshots.
 
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She will absolutely show up at Greenmelt.

She knows support is fading. She's shown up at everything she's been booked at this year because she knows she can't afford to do a no-show. In the years when she was riding high, she could not turn up and people would just be concerned. Now she knows it looks bad and bar these low-end festival bookings and QT, what work has she actually had in the last twelve months?

Also, I was watching the Jimmy Saville documentary (bear with me) on Netflix last week and there was a psychologist on there who said that people like him who do bad stuff in plain sight have an undeveloped sense of shame. It made me think of guest because lots of people have said that had they been caught out doing the twattery she's done, they'd never leave the house. Even if the need to continue the grift is the driving force behind her showing her stupid face at these things, if she was a "normal" person, the absolute shame of knowing that people know what she's done would stop her. She's got no shame, hence the cringey hair dye post hot on the heels of the CCJ lies. She's just a terminal bleep.

I can't imagine any festivals booking her next year. She isn't worth the hassle.
 
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Jan 2013. Can you believe this was her actual newspaper column?! Southend Echo has a lot to answer for indulging her in all her nonsensical tit, way before the Guardian came calling View attachment 2283619View attachment 2283614
ETA here also is a very early precursor to ONS changing the way they measure inflation where Jack (writes yet another tedious letter “to the newspaper” in which she) attempts to take all the credit for something that’s duck all to do with her.
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"Ethos of accountability"

😂 😂 😂

Oh, dear, oh dear me 🤣

*reaches for hanky as tears of uncontrollable mirth pour down cheeks*
*holds aching sides*

I must write that one down.
 
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Oh Head in a Jar, you are back! I have missed you (both!) so! ❤

I think your head in a jar space-portrait mode must have broken since last year though. Or you’ve been through a couple of very hard and stressful space millennia and space dust ❄ since last we saw you. Something is different, anyway. (Apart from the dead shark eyes which look exactly the same)
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This bit in that Greenbelt statement:



That’s all they can find to praise her for? She won a couple of awards voted for by a random number of middle class people? Talk about being damned by faint praise. And ‘a couple of weeks ago’ was actually December. Like six months ago. 🙄

And welcome new frauen! May a chaos be granted to you soon 🥰
Yeah, I wondered about the "couple of weeks ago" thing too - it suggests that they drafted the statement way back when the initial fuss was being made, and the delay in publishing it was the result of protracted negotiations with Adrian & Jack rather than being ostraching or laziness on Greenbelt's part.

But since this final version still contains a bunch of backhanded compliments... what must the original have been like? If there's been months of wrangling over it, doesn't that suggest that it must have been much more strongly-worded to start with?

And if that's true then maybe there is a chance of further action being taken if there's continued pushback.
 
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She LEFT. Jack’s ex/son’s dad and Mrs Ex aren’t together anymore.

Hence Jack twittering about “our” children when she tags along on holiday with her son’s dad and his children to deliberately upset Mrs Ex (having stalked her into Mrs Gloss etc etc). I can’t even imagine a decade of that poor woman having to deal with guest’s histrionics, drama and complete nonsense. DIRE. Just like guest’s mum’s roasties.
And Jack couldn't wait to 'accidentally' inform the whole of Twitter of their break up.
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Jan 2013. Can you believe this was her actual newspaper column?! Southend Echo has a lot to answer for indulging her in all her nonsensical tit, way before the Guardian came calling View attachment 2283619View attachment 2283614
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And still can't find the apostrophe key.
 
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And Jack couldn't wait to 'accidentally' inform the whole of Twitter of their break up.
I missed that - being a Twitter leper as I am, condemned to live beyond the TwitterPale and ring a bell every time I approach. Sometimes I'm grateful that I can't get back on, other times I want to rage against the machine . . .

I can just imagine how bliddy gleeful she will have been.

She's an absolute sh1tstain! :mad:
 
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I’m actually curious about what she’ll come out with at Greenbelt this year. Last time she was there (DRAMATIC PAUSE), she exaggerated THE POV beyond anything she’d done up to that point and claimed for the first time to have been evicted. From that point on, THE POVERTY just became more and more luridly exaggerated- stealing food to survive! Sex work to survive! Metro sanny pads! Huddling on a mattress on cold floors (despite never selling the beds)! Eating out of bins! Multiple evictions!

It would’t surprise me in the slightest if she’s trying to decide whether to come out with the inaugural version of an even more lurid claim in an effort to drum up sympathy (see also Shattenstone and the 40 Trammies). Then she’s probably hoping she’ll get to warble another song and lay hands on someone in the audience again while the entire place goes into raptures.

It had better be good, guest!
 
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It actually made me feel stupidly anxious seeing how often she referenced it! Partly ‘oh hell, everyone’ll think we’re all like that with this constant publicity’ and wondering if I’d be the same in that position.

But although I’m basically the incarnation of chaos I don’t think ND people are typically deliberately deceitful, and at this stage it seems very disingenuous of her to claim it was all an innocent mistake.

It’s also odd for a hyperfocus to be done so badly! I’m not sure if her recipies started well and then just fell off a cliff, but given what she does after years of practise I’m not keep on sampling the earlier work!

It puzzles me a lot, as you say we’re super aware of our weak points and incessantly apologising for them! It just feels like some other issue is in play for her to never express any remorse…
Could it be that she doesn't care? :unsure:

Yes. It’s also one of a pair that
Do they shovel ❄?
 
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She will absolutely show up at Greenmelt.

She knows support is fading. She's shown up at everything she's been booked at this year because she knows she can't afford to do a no-show. In the years when she was riding high, she could not turn up and people would just be concerned. Now she knows it looks bad and bar these low-end festival bookings and QT, what work has she actually had in the last twelve months?

Also, I was watching the Jimmy Saville documentary (bear with me) on Netflix last week and there was a psychologist on there who said that people like him who do bad stuff in plain sight have an underdeveloped sense of shame. It made me think of guest because lots of people have said that had they been caught out doing the twattery she's done, they'd never leave the house. Even if the need to continue the grift is the driving force behind her showing her stupid face at these things, if she was a "normal" person, the absolute shame of knowing that people know what she's done would stop her. She's got no shame, hence the cringey hair dye post hot on the heels of the CCJ lies. She's just a terminal bleep.

I can't imagine any festivals booking her next year. She isn't worth the hassle.
Yeah, she does an awful lot of hiding in plain sight.

She relies so heavily on well-meaning supporters glossing over the contradictions and putting their own positive spin on the things she says and does. See all the squigs who still earnestly peddle the idea that she 'changed the way the ONS measures inflation' and 'got ASDA to bring back their value range'.

It's why her enablers in the media must take such a large share of the blame for her actions. If they were just a little less credulous, she wouldn't be able to get away with behaving so badly in public.
 
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I’m going to be honest and say Greenbelt sounds as boring as duck. I can’t imagine anyone other than white, middle class, middle England frumps going to that.
 
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I'm interested to hear your personal points of view about what guest would have to do to satisfy you that she is truly sorry so she could seek some sort of redemption.
There are multiple reasons why we're all pissed off with her so it would be very difficult.
I've been wracking my brains today trying to think what would satisfy me.
I think that we can safely assume that no-one is going to get any refunds. They should, but she SHAN'T.
For me she'd have to pause Patreon until she can offer some regular digital content instead of physical rewards.
Make her Patreon public like most other providers. That one would definitely give her an upper hand as I think most of the squigs would just shrug and keep throwing money at her.
Any fundraising should be done through a legitimate platform.
A professional Twitter account for signposting/campaigning and a personal one where she can lie, moan about her crumbly shoulder and flash her minge as much as she likes. At least the latter would be for her most avid fans and everyone else could avoid (like any other normal Twitter account).
I popped over to Mastadon to follow someone I know and did a quick search for guest. She is there but there are only a few mirrored Twitter posts with virtually no engagement.
What I want:
  1. Pausing the Patreon until she moves to entirely or predominantly digital rewards (higher rate subscribers could maybe get a physical birthday card/copy of her latests book on publication - stuff that can be fulfilled by external agents more easily than a poor smol pixie whose post office hates her). I've posted on here about how she can make patreon work for her in a way that doesn't involve her massively over-promising and failing to deliver.
  2. Refunds for everyone who asks.
  3. A forensic accountant to go through her income to identify the Sue Lee money and offer those people a direct refund.
  4. A full accounting for the teemill debacle.
  5. A full and frank apology that lays out, in detail, an accurate timeline from the start of The Pov™ and identifies the Sliding Doors moments - the points where she got so captivated by the beg/pound signs in her eyes that everything started slipping out of control.
  6. Separate twitter accounts for her "activism" and her thirst shots
  7. all fundraising to only go through legitimate platforms, keep her payPal and patreon for people donating to her personally, not because they think she'll donate it onwards/use it for legal activities.
  8. confirmation that her taxes have been paid, in full, (the forensic accountant can assist with this).
  9. either for her to actually start doing the work that people think she does. You know - activism, recipes, signposting towards help and support, speaking in parliament, or to step down and stop taking a space away from someone who can speak from lived experience of a life on benefits in precarious housing.
 
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I’m going to be honest and say Greenbelt sounds as boring as duck. I can’t imagine anyone other than white, middle class, middle England frumps going to that.
She'll show alright, precisely because of that. Don't forget, it was at Greenbelt they were practically calling for Jack to be sainted.
 
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Hello, new frau here, almost broke my keyboard in my haste to sign up when I saw registrations were open.

Have refrained from posting an origin story so far as I've been BUSY, but wanted to say hello, as I've been grunking here for about a year now.

I was a fan of Jack until I tweeted something about the Katie Hopkins case (cos duck KH) and someone told me to Google for Tattle and Jack, and Teemill. I got distracted by the Vonny threads as a friend used to work with her 🍉 but then back here I came to grunk for eternity.

I'm pleased to have been mentioned here as a squig on my now deleted Twitter, and this place has kept me sane when Jacko made me cross.

I'm an actual WC, ex pov, diagnosed ADHD and CPTSD having leftie, and having this pulsating buttmunch cosplaying makes me very cross indeed.

Thankspaceyou for all you do. I'll dip back out now and make sure my contributions are meaningful.
I'm pleased to have been mentioned here as a squig on my now deleted Twitter,

I am in AWE!

🤩🤩🤩
 
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