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There have been queries about benefits.

OK. I was out of work due to sickness (which became disability, much to my utter joy [/sarcasm] after a while.

1. In the 00s - early 10s, if you had a small child, you were not required to be available for work. Full stop. No signing on, all you had to do was complete the IS form. You therefore qualified for Income Support, Child Benefit, full Housing Benefit, full Council Tax Benefit, milk vouchers (enough for a tub of formula or 7pints of fresh milk a week), possibly vitamin drops if you lived near a child health clinic, free prescriptions, free travel to hospital appointments, free dental care. However, any maintenance received from a kid's father would be taken into account and, IIRC, deducted pound for pound from your entitlement. You would also be expected to pay your water rates, gas, electricity and food. If you were short of something like a refrigerator or bed, so could apply to social security via an SF100 form and get either a non repayable grant or a zero percent loan from the social fund, which was paid back at something like £4 a week by deducting from your IS payments. If you were in social housing, your rent would be paid direct to the landlord, if you rented privately, you could opt for the money to be either paid direct to your landlord or direct to you. Landlords were still happy to accept 'DSS' tenants, as the money was good and generally reliable once a claim was set up.

2. If you were working and earned below a certain amount, you would receive Tax Credits. These included 70% of any registered childcare fees and money in respect of the child. When they were called Family Tax Credit (I can't remember when exactly they changed over), the same amount was paid for six months at a time, so if you were working for 16 hours a week at the time of the claim and then increased your hours or got another job that was fulltime, whilst the childminding costs would be adjusted and increased as soon as you told them the average amount had varied by over £10 a week, you were perfectly entitled to keep the higher figure for that six month period.

You were unlikely to qualify for Housing or Council Tax Benefit if you were in receipt of tax credits, as they raised your income significantly higher.


3. With both schemes, a single parent would have several separate income sources, which you could get monthly, weekly, four weekly or fortnightly as you preferred. If one of them screwed up, you would still receive the others, so you were never without at least the Child Benefit, which wouldn't make you rich, but would get you food. In addition, if it was IS or CHB/CTB that fucked up, you could go to your local benefit office or council offices and see somebody who, after a fairly long wait, would be able to sort it out for you.

4. At a slightly later date, the rules around maintenance changed and you were then able to keep every single penny you received from a child's father without it affecting your benefit entitlement in the slightest. Tax Credits changed their name at some point into what they are now. However, they often calculated entitlements based upon what you earned the previous year and wouldn't adjust the figures if you said you were earning more, so overpayments became a real risk and many people found the following year that they then owed a lot of money.

5. The CSA was crap. But if somebody was on benefits or low pay, they'd take from zero to a fiver a week if they weren't responsible for a child in their household. If they had a job or dole money, they were easy to find. From the point of view of the absent parent, buying clothes, shoes or other items wasn't counted as maintenance, they were counted as presents. Receiving IS as a single parent was conditional upon confirming the name of the absent parent and consenting to the CSA claiming from them.

6. Alternatively, if you were unwell at all, a doctor's note was enough to get you put onto IS by virtue of sickness. As long as your GP signed the notes and you handed them in, you got the money.


7. If they completely fucked up, it was a nightmare to get payments started, however, for the vast majority of single parents, once the claim got paid, the money just kept coming in, so you could plan, take out a social fund loan, etc. And the money wasn't bad.

8. There were Surestart Centres, decent funding in the NHS to keep to the targets, schools received absolute fortunes for adopting specialist school status, large scale building programmes were started. So waiting lists were shorter, you could get treatments pretty easily, there were free things such as books for babies, babies Rhymetimes in libraries, toddler groups, etc.


Times were pretty good for the single parent then. It wasn't pleasant relying upon somebody other than yourself for your income, as one glitch could cause your card to be refused at the till and that would be your first indication that something was wrong - and the fear of that was a bloody nightmare (literally at times) - plus, waiting with your kid surrounded by angry addicts and screaming claimants around you as you waited for your turn to try to sort a problem out was horrible. So getting off benefits and at least getting some of your income via work was a lot less stress.

Once the Tories had sole power, things started getting far more tit over a fairly short period of time, depending upon whether you found yourself in an 'early adopter area' where they piloted all the ideas, had all the mistakes and chose to do duck all about them before rolling them out elsewhere. Usually based upon where they didn't need to garner votes.

I think she can't take the kitten to the vet because she doesn't have the money. This is entirely my opinion m'lord. Under normal circumstances she would happily share a vet's professional opinion and give obnoxious retorts to anyone giving their tuppence worth to that, same way she does with her own health issues. Why wouldn't she share with all those lovely followers who adore her kitten posts? No matter how much dough she has, she's split with her partner who had a well paying job and I imagine she's feeling that pinch. Maybe she's now paying all of the rent herself and things are tight?! Thing is, everyone knows she took on the kitten after the split so she can't take the fallen on hard times or even the crowdfunder route, everyone will know how irresponsible it was. (Pretty sure the people on these threads alone would cover the costs, just say the word, Jack).
Sorry, bollocks. You'd sell a sideboard (or a Tracey Emin/Vivienne Westwood/or an iPhone) to pay for it. Or dip into your savings from only paying yourself NMW whilst earning significantly more. After all, you aren't travelling to London for filming, shopping, socialising or anything else. Not even paying for school dinners or music lessons/football clubs. And buying food isn't a particularly high priority when there's a vet to pay a basic consultancy fee to. You wouldn't be buying teething necklaces, either. Or paint. Or more shelves. Or more sideboards. If you were actually broke, that is.
 
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By the way, this was in Popbitch:

>> Booking issues <<​
Trying to stop the spread​

Hot on the heels of his blackface backlash, David Walliams' children's books are the latest bit of culture to be placed under the microscope.

Some of his critics are saying that the stories are too problematic to subject young kids to - but, in fairness to Walliams, he seems to be doing more than most to stop children from actually reading any of them.

Walliams was approached by a literacy charity not too long ago to see if he would do something for the 100 or so children who completed their reading programme that year. He said he wouldn't have the time to record a video message, but would send the kids a book of his instead.

Which he did.

One book. For a hundred kids to share.​
 
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@Keegan I'm the same regarding hoarding food, as I too didn't have much of it growing up.

@Pocahontas what was the thread title? Just out of curiosity

Prima facie means at face value, which to me doesn't make sense in this tweet? (please do correct me if I'm wrong)

I hope Jack calms down a bit, looking after the child, working, moving and keeping up here is nigh impossible
 

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The context of the Tweet she replied to. She is defeating her own argument 🤦🏻‍♀️ View attachment 175465
It doesn't make any kind of sense at all (and stop implying Greek Cypriots look 'dirty'. Absolutely no one I know does, and they would be utterly horrified at the idea)

People come in different colours, even in the same full biological family. Accept it, and move along
 
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assuming it’s seen one since she’s said it needs splints
I’m not so sure. She only came up with the splints thing conveniently soon after another cat owner had said that this was the solution in her case. So I think she may have co-opted that. (It’s a common technique with munchies too, to use details they’ve gleaned from genuine sufferers from specific illnesses.). Particularly when she also said that “we” had consulted a vet, or something like that. Who is “we”? The previous owner? The royal we??
 
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Yeah. I don't think Jack was in poverty long. She talks about she doesn't hoard food. As someone who didn't always have food growing up I am an absolute boarder now. So are everyone I know who had the same experiences.

I mean not everyone is the same etc etc but still.

(This is a comment I thought of like six threads ago...)
So true, as an example when I was a kid my parents had a really violent fight over there not being enough bread in the house as someone had eaten one slice and they couldnt afford to get any more etc etc,
so now I'm obsessed with making sure there are always several loaves in my house... like I'm sure my kids and husband think I've got some weird fixation on bread 😂
 
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I’m not so sure. She only came up with the splints thing conveniently soon after another cat owner had said that this was the solution in her case. So I think she may have co-opted that. (It’s a common technique with munchies too, to use details they’ve gleaned from genuine sufferers from specific illnesses.). Particularly when she also said that “we” had consulted a vet, or something like that. Who is “we”? The previous owner? The royal we??
New new wife? Or she is referring to the cat as also having an opinion on the matter? 😂
 
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Someone needs to remind Jack of this, I know someone mentioned on the previous thread but I think this shows what a cock she is
What I find interesting about her, if anyone brings up the appalling DC situation (that cost her the Sainsbury’s gig - might have been able to buy your own house if you hadn’t been so awful 🤷🏻‍♀️) or the JO shitshow, she’s very quick to snap that she apologised and that should be the end of it.

Does she think DW is going to apologise to her for her perception of his books? Or is it genuinely about her need to take down another person because she’s so unhappy in her own life?

I watched that GMB clip and it had on the screen that she was a ‘Writer and a Journalist’. Is she an actual Journalist?
 
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What I find interesting about her, if anyone brings up the appalling DC situation (that cost her the Sainsbury’s gig - might have been able to buy your own house if you hadn’t been so awful 🤷🏻‍♀️) or the JO shitshow, she’s very quick to snap that she apologised and that should be the end of it.

Does she think DW is going to apologise to her for her perception of his books? Or is it genuinely about her need to take down another person because she’s so unhappy in her own life?

I watched that GMB clip and it had on the screen that she was a ‘Writer and a Journalist’. Is she an actual Journalist?
I've noticed that as well with Jack, that if people bring up any of her wrongdoings she gets very offended because she apologised and she was ILL and she shouldn't be reminded of it.

So if DW was to go down the same route, apology, illness etc then in theory she should accept the apology, delete all tweets and never comment on the subject matter again 🤔
 
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What I find interesting about her, if anyone brings up the appalling DC situation (that cost her the Sainsbury’s gig - might have been able to buy your own house if you hadn’t been so awful 🤷🏻‍♀️) or the JO shitshow, she’s very quick to snap that she apologised and that should be the end of it.

Does she think DW is going to apologise to her for her perception of his books? Or is it genuinely about her need to take down another person because she’s so unhappy in her own life?

I watched that GMB clip and it had on the screen that she was a ‘Writer and a Journalist’. Is she an actual Journalist?
And how she says she learns from her mistakes about her temper etc.. if anything every incident seems worse?

What I find interesting about her, if anyone brings up the appalling DC situation (that cost her the Sainsbury’s gig - might have been able to buy your own house if you hadn’t been so awful 🤷🏻‍♀️) or the JO shitshow, she’s very quick to snap that she apologised and that should be the end of it.

Does she think DW is going to apologise to her for her perception of his books? Or is it genuinely about her need to take down another person because she’s so unhappy in her own life?

I watched that GMB clip and it had on the screen that she was a ‘Writer and a Journalist’. Is she an actual Journalist?
Yeh she writes in the guardian from time to time, all I’ve seen is the usual dkl slop
 
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@Keegan I'm the same regarding hoarding food, as I too didn't have much of it growing up.

@Pocahontas what was the thread title? Just out of curiosity

Prima facie means at face value, which to me doesn't make sense in this tweet? (please do correct me if I'm wrong)

I hope Jack calms down a bit, looking after the child, working, moving and keeping up here is nigh impossible
I have never seen David Walliams as 'untouchable'. I'm curious as to why she thinks he is.
 
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It's amazing that so many libraries, schools, bookshops and literary experts have been able to find the time to call on Jack's impeccable eye for details in the midst of a pandemic. I would have thought they'd be too busy preparing for post-lockdown operation but hey, I'm just someone with critical thinking skills and a healthy dose of cynicism.
 
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Hang on, I’m white & I have crazy frizzy curly hair. I was bullied throughout my school years as it was seen as freaky.
what are you implying here, Jack?
Do you have a funny name? As if you do and you also have frizzy hair, clearly you are black not white.
 
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Her net worth is apparently £1m
Sorry, but where is that figure from? I don't think she's poor, but given she doesn't own property (shocker) I doubt this is true.

I’m not sure David W has made 100 million from his books. He’s had 100 million pounds worth of sales. She knows how the industry works. He will get a percentage
Just ran some calculations using the Monroe method. His overall royalties come to 17p.

 
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One of her many word farts has gone to that tweet graveyard in the sky. Not a scooby doo which one though.
 
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I am still HOOTING over the fact she will not hold her hands up and say “I got it wrong over Mrs Tutelage”

She’s doing herself absolutely no favours by carrying this on. She’d be better off admitting she made a mistake there, pressing that she doesn’t like certain aspects of the stories and that she’d implore parents to check they are happy with the literature their children and reading.

She then needs to get a friend (maybe the one who reads here, hello 👋) to change her social media passwords for her so she can have a real break of a few weeks, not just a few hours.

If she does both of those, she might just about save her career. (For now at least)

Also, someone is about to get blocked...
 

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Unpronounceable name: check
frizzy hair: check

According to Jack, this woman is black.

 
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it doesn't sound hopeful. Vets here have been seeing animals since lockdown, and are now running back to normal but even in lockdown the rules were to leave pet at door or in car, and staff would come out to collect. I can't see it being much different in other areas. The vibes I'm getting from this is not been to the vet yet and is placating everyone (us?).if the kitten has already seen a vet before coming to Jack, then Jack has a responsibility to take her to a vet too. I just don't believe any of it.

She is still about and liking posts. Anti working class?View attachment 175504
Oh ffs. How many working class people in this thread had grandparents & parents who are landlordsof MULTIPLE properties? Or Mums with Land Rovers?

It’s so offensive just because she flopped school she thinks she can co opt an entirely new identity. I’ve written it on the thread before most my WC peers smashed school and uni hun 💅🏻 Sorry you were lazy despite being afforded every single privilege in life?

She’s a moron and this is why her political analysis is so bleeping weak because she has no bleeping idea. Honestly it’s scarcely 7am and this has pissed me off. Whoever said the mumsnet thing about her being the most right wing left wing person is right.
 
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