omg. No. What on earth? I need to go back and read all of the previous thread
omg. No. What on earth? I need to go back and read all of the previous thread
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SPOILER THE HORNNNNNNN
I heard she used piano wire as a washing line to dry her multitude of headscarves she always wears on.When she was in the poverty, she had to use a wire from her grand piano to cut her cheese because she had sold all her knives. This is a lie of mine
Evidence of what? Your own tweets and being abusive on Twitter? Ok pal.LOL it's probably your own claim, Jack, rather than someone seeing it out in the wild. Lawyer collecting evidence, sure Jan.
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There are enough of us going as rinsed hoops to make a whole pasta e ceciI’m going as a rinsed hoop.
I was there too. I didn't catch the knickers though.Jenny, I’ve been reflecting all day. Especially as Hole were one of my favourite early teenage bands.
i was there, Barrowlands, 1994 or 5 - Courtney threw her knickers into the crowd!
Such a mix imo, my partner comes from an extremely WC background, spent a good part of his life on benefits and part in a womens refuge too, his grandparents are on benefits and his great grandparents were too. However, he got into a local grammar school, (which gave him a completely different accent to the rest of his family) and was the first in his family to go to uni, now he has a really good high paying job and earns more than most people his age. A lot of working class people think that he’s middle class, but he sticks out as being working class when he’s with more traditionally middle class people. Some toff took the piss out of him a couple of years ago because he didn’t know what hors d’oeuvres are lol.I'm interested in the 'JM isn't working class' discourse and I'd like to ask Fraus whether they think class is more material (ie you might come from a middle class upbringing and have whatever education credentials but no support network means you're struggling month to month on rent/groceries is working class) or cultural (ie coming from a working class background, distinct 'working class' taste preferences vs 'upper or middle class' preferences, what you spend money on, income is less important)
On twitter sometimes I see people pointing to JM's upbringing alone as proof that Jack can't be working class. I'd more say that it's because Jack has a (minor) celebrity profile, brand deals, books, is invited to talks etc. so claiming they struggle materially to a point of working class-ness is pretty baseless.
Also the Karl stuff made me so sick. Hope everyone is ok x
One of my kids got a certificate in primary one for most improved forward roll (this caused myself, husband and family and friends much hilarity after of course praising the little darling). Must keep it for his CV in the futureMy county council awarded me a certificate as a County Scholar for getting top marks at a level but I had and have no idea why. It seemed odd and I've never told anyone except now. It seems hilarious to boast about how well you did at school, especially at preGCSE level. Ooooh, I got the headmaster's award for chess club at infant school. Must go tweet about it.
I had forgotten about that!I wonder if she'll do the Jay Rayner thing
Because he’s an EVIL TORY so most people seemed to think it was fine. You know. The ones with #bekind in their Twitter bios.I still don’t understand how she wasn’t cancelled for that, it was appalling
I agree with you about using the grammar school thing against her, but from what I can understand she didn't pass her 11 plus and somehow her Dad got her in. That sounds like pulling strings to me. In my experience, middle class people have more success in that department, purely because of their standing in the community.My grammar offered the same, we had a few new kids join, but I think they arrive at the beginning of year nine. There was also a wait list, so if any places became available it was offered to those. (kids moving, getting expelled etc made those spaces.)
I kinda hate it when people use the grammar school thing against her, as proof she's middle class. We were all mostly working class at my school, most of us had to stay after school to use the computers because we didn't have one at home, pretty much none of us had been tutored to pass the 11+. (The tutored kids were the ones who struggled in all honesty.)
The only thing that is telling is she fucked up that amazing opportunity to get a good education. Grammar schools are an unfair advantage 100%. She wasted that advantage and privilege. She had too much of a cushion behind her to not care about failing, and fucked it right up. A good education can be a golden ticket to a working class kid like I was.
I could have written this and agree wholeheartedlyI can’t stress how much of a difference it makes of your parents did A Levels, went to uni and own a house. I grew up WC immigrant to a single mum who’d done none of those things but due to luck and scholarships i got an extremely good education. Occupationally im MC now but culturally and In sociopolitical outlook I believe I still have marked WC immigrant traits. The transition from WC to MC was traumatic for me, I was leaving behind one culture whilst not fully fitting in with the other. CBA to go into detail rn as I prefer laughing at Jack but social mobility can be quite isolating imho. Even tho I’m also grateful for it. A previous Frau talked brilliantly about cultural capital and how knowing about cultural MC touch points helps you navigate those spaces. I didn’t know about those things and it made social spaces very hard to negotiate. Now I’m fortunate enough to be in a position where I can be myself and not care about embarrassing myself.
I got a top national score in one of my GCSEsThe exam boards at GCSE and A Level did used to contact schools where a student got a top score nationally. Haven’t seen this in a few years, but things were different during covid. Again, no idea if this happened for 11 plus, seems unlikely though.
Jenny, imagine that! I didn’t catch them either but they flew right past me as I was near enough to the front that me and my pal asked Courtney to throw us some water and she did!I was there too. I didn't catch the knickers though.
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