Jack Monroe #321 It's just that Jack wasn't especially cool or well liked

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I'm way behind, but, duck me, how patronising to the cleaning and maintenance staff.
If I was one of them, I'd tell them a load of made up 'personal facts'
Init. And it’s a deeply classist and sexist assumption that the cleaners are all going to be chatty, salt of the earth women who have time for the people they have to pick up after. Tell me you’ve never experienced the spectrum of working class people without telling me, well, you know how the rest of that goes.

I had a tacit, friendly pact with one of the young cleaners in an old workplace that we both liked to work in silence (I used to get in at about 730 before it was busy) and she had unfettered access to my drawer of herbal teas, but no interest in chit chat. Another guy at a different office used to sell us weed.

Tbh there’s always been more homogeneity amongst my white collar colleagues than in the range of staff that Jack would deem beneath her. The very idea that the cleaning or security staff would somehow welcome some guy in epaulettes making mental notes about their lives is deeply weird.
 
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Once we've voted on a name, will we all get turns of taking the Jack home in the holidays to look after?
Oh god, flashback to when I had the terrapins over the summer in primary school. It did not end well.
Long story short, it was really difficult to find terrapins in 1977 ...
 
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Good short grunk, would recommend - 999 stars
What in the Tosh Lines was that all about? Feels like someone reported the cannon gun fun in the sun and she turned it round to being hounded by trolls. Or she watched an old episode of the Bill. Or something.
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“Did you see her nails?”
“And then she offered you THE food!”
I can see it now on UK Cop Humour:

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“Random act of kindness - we were at a shout at a woman who says she’s a famous TV Chef but I’ve never seen her on Sunday Brunch. Anyway, her house was in chaos and she said she’d just whipped up her son’s favourite kiwi and edamame bean curry and insisted we try it - it honestly looked like the back of the meat wagon on a Saturday night but she sounded like she was going to burst into tears so we said we’d take it away. The kindness was from what looked like a long-suffering neighbour who let us dump the slopfest in her bin. Good to know there are some decent folk out there. The food looked that bad, we went back and arrested Jack for a hate crime against food. As we were putting her in the police car, everyone clapped and cheered. Needless to say, we had the last laugh”
 
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For what it's worth I don't think Jack is cyclothymic. If you do some Big Maths, you find her mood is a linear function of the amount of attention she's getting, as illustrated in fig.1. The reverse trend is seen when plotting as a function of indoor temperature ❄ the colder it is, the more power is diverted to the lights.

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What could more perfectly channel Vibe of Jack than this?!
I would like to point out that it was a natural death (although I was convinced I was to blame and hid from the art teacher whose room he lived in) and that I take pet responsibility very seriously. Honestly, I had to be taken out of the back door so I didn’t scare the people in reception at the vets when my gerbil was put to sleep. I was an adult at the time too.

Pets are not just for Christmas (or for some social media supply).

She is just saying that because she thinks curiosity about OH identity will create book sales
And he will feel too guilty to leave her because she has put him in print. Or so she thought…. Muahahahaha 😂
 
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I would like to point out that it was a natural death (although I was convinced I was to blame and hid from the art teacher whose room he lived in) and that I take pet responsibility very seriously. Honestly, I had to be taken out of the back door so I didn’t scare the people in reception at the vets when my gerbil was put to sleep. I was an adult at the time too.

Pets are not just for Christmas (or for some social media supply).


And he will feel too guilty to leave her because she has put him in print. Or so she thought…. Muahahahaha 😂
💔💔💔 You absolutely aren't Jack.
 
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Jack has been very quiet today, I wonder if we're in for a late chaos.
 
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So a building maintenance engineer with full apprenticeships or hnds in mechanical or electrical engineering have to doff our flat caps to socialist JM ? I will start discussing my life with everyone now. I'd hate for someone to fail to go up the 'ladder'
 
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Init. And it’s a deeply classist and sexist assumption that the cleaners are all going to be chatty, salt of the earth women who have time for the people they have to pick up after. Tell me you’ve never experienced the spectrum of working class people without telling me, well, you know how the rest of that goes.

I had a tacit, friendly pact with one of the young cleaners in an old workplace that we both liked to work in silence (I used to get in at about 730 before it was busy) and she had unfettered access to my drawer of herbal teas, but no interest in chit chat. Another guy at a different office used to sell us weed.

Tbh there’s always been more homogeneity amongst my white collar colleagues than in the range of staff that Jack would deem beneath her. The very idea that the cleaning or security staff would somehow welcome some guy in epaulettes making mental notes about their lives is deeply weird.
My dad was a security guard all over but mostly in ASDA! before he died and he would have told her off for being nosey. He didn't think it was appropriate to gossip about one's life especially in work!
 
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Like Lenny hate having to do this and sorry this must be boring the tit out of you all by now… but idk this call thing doesn’t feel v authentic to me. It’s something I’ve often seen or heard for people who have lost everything and are new in so incredibly vulnerable, people that are more likely to be in a residential facility or hostel type situation than functioning to some degree. Being able to take or make a phone call a day is a privilege many working people with families simply don’t have. I’ve also always pre arranged calls with sponsors for that reason. It’s also something that I’ve seen as more of a thing with the older generation and I imagine it’s because the technology to text or voice note simply wasn’t a thing back then.

Like I’m not saying she’s lying it’s just a very atypical thing for someone of her age who’s close to a year in to be discussing. A bit odd imo 🤷🏻‍♀️
If my sobriety was contingent on phoning people, I would really struggle. I HATE talking to people on the phone and will only do it when I have to. You’re encouraged to “go to any lengths” to get sober but if my sponsor said to me “phone me every night at 6pm so we can talk over your day” then it probably wouldn’t have got off the ground. And I’ve heard that at meetings before, that was the expectation of the sponsor - daily phone calls!

I always give my number to female newcomers and if someone reached out, I’d definitely listen and help them. But I don’t even phone my best friends for a chat so I can’t imagine me undertaking Jack’s ‘suggestion’. I’m maybe sensitive about it but I just get the vibe she says all this stuff on behalf of AA when a) she’s a Cockwomble and b) she should concern herself with her sobriety first and foremost.

I mentioned famous people in recovery and I forgot one who comes into my head from time to time - Eric Clapton. He was just on Now 90s singing the song he wrote for his son who died and to the best of my knowledge, he was sober before, during and after that heartbreaking period and beyond. I don’t know why I’m mentioning him really, other than on the occasions where I wish I could unwind and drink like a “normal person” then he’ll come into my head as an example of trusting your programme and your higher power. I do speak a lot about AA from the point of view of people who are in recovery but don’t often think of those who are concerned about how much they drink or those who are worried about a loved one. It’s honestly a life saver if you feel you need AA, you don’t be judged you will be welcomed by people who have walked the path before you and can tell you this is the better alternative. You’ll get tough love and you’ll get brutal honesty. Nobody said it would be easy but they promised it would be worth it.

If you feel someone close to you is an alcoholic, I know some people who have had a peace to their life thanks to Al-Anon. I can’t imagine how hard it must be, but there is support out there too ❤

Honestly, the post is so long I thought the thread would be closed by the time I finished 😩. I was going to say I can’t half waffle on and that reminded me, has anyone seen Waffle Maker lately?
 
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I would like to point out that it was a natural death (although I was convinced I was to blame and hid from the art teacher whose room he lived in) and that I take pet responsibility very seriously. Honestly, I had to be taken out of the back door so I didn’t scare the people in reception at the vets when my gerbil was put to sleep. I was an adult at the time too.

Pets are not just for Christmas (or for some social media supply).


And he will feel too guilty to leave her because she has put him in print. Or so she thought…. Muahahahaha 😂
Praise beans my son's and stepdaughters schools didn't have live class pets.

Bless you. we had to be helped out out the vets when my son's last Guinea pig died ☹ (of old age). I can't describe the state we were all in when we had to have our dear old cat put to sleep ☹. Pet ownership is not to be taken lightly ❤.

So a building maintenance engineer with full apprenticeships or hnds in mechanical or electrical engineering have to doff our flat caps to socialist JM ? I will start discussing my life with everyone now. I'd hate for someone to fail to go up the 'ladder'
My son is an apprentice. He's very outspoken and vocal shall we say 😬. Jack would be given very short shrift and sent off with her tail between her legs if any cap doffing was expected 😂. It would be very funny 😂.
 
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Imagine you're a cleaner in 2010, just getting on with mopping the floor to a high standard when madam decides to start boasting about her tattoos and banging on about her 34 part time jobs paying 50k p/a. Nightmare
 
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Imagine you're a cleaner in 2010, just getting on with mopping the floor to a high standard when madam decides to start boasting about her tattoos and banging on about her 34 part time jobs paying 50k p/a. Nightmare
I silently judge collaeagues who claim to always make time to speak to cleaners etc. Of course every single person is potentially worthy of conversation, but only wankers feel the need to point out their egalitarian attitude by speaking to those the consider beneath them.. Making a point of it is patronising and shows your snobbery.
if you like them, say hello, have a chat. Don't advertise it. Don't pretend to like them its patronising and transparent.
 
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I always name animals I am looking after for someone else...oh no wait I don't because they aren't my pets
And you certainly wouldn’t have multiple twee names like mini moo, Mini Cooper, etc., for them. Horrible cow.
 
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