Jack Monroe #31 Grunka Lunka dunkety doo, we came for Jack but stayed for you!

[FrumpyCat]

Apologies, I thought BT had posted it herself earlier on, I didn't realise repeating things that were already in the public domain were against the rules of this website.

Jack, kudos - that was genuinely funny!

 

[help i need some help!]

I thought the same!

Being a technomuppet, how is it the right way round this time.?

 

[Harrybosch]

Come on. I would call anyone on being this disingenuous. You implied you were open to questions (suggesting doing an AMA), so @Harrybosch has asked some. In a direct way, I don't see it as at all demanding. You can choose not to answer, of course, but you did sort of frame the exchange with a mention of an AMA. It is worth pointing out again, as others have, that you came here (again, poor choice in my view) and as you say, no one is keeping you here. You might want to ask yourself what is. I think it might help.

Thanks, @Flumps. I know I did nothing wrong. It's not particularly surprising that the lack of answers has somehow become the fault of my tone.

 

[Yel]

Im so hungry, but so hot & bothered that I cannot be bothered to make anything

Here was me hoping I could chat about juice fasts on this thread today after the rush from the lives calmed down, but no he up there had other plans

 

[Jack_M]

@Jack_M Many of us found your 'whiter than mayonnaise' video somewhat tone deaf (I appreciate it's tough to get it right, so sometimes it's perhaps best to not say anything at all). It sounded however like you might do a channel handover or do lots of retweeting. That didn't happen. Was it your initial intention? If so, why did you not follow through? Of did we misundrestand?

There was in incident with an instagrammer called Alexis who interpreted a tweet of yours to mean that Hellmann's had threatened to fire you but you stood firm because BLM. Can you see why many of us interpreted your tweet in that way? Do you regret tweeting this? Can you say with hand-on-heart that you DIDN'T want to be perceived as the white saviour?

1. It was my initial intention to do a channel handover. I spoke to a group of friends - including Black women - who advised me emphatically NOT to do this because of the level of abuse my account attracts. So I didn't.

2. I did some retweeting, but not as much as I wanted to do. I'm not sure if you noticed, but I was having a breakdown.

3. I clarified that on IGLive the next day. The company supported me from the off. I was breaching my contract by refusing to do the episode, which was the risk I referred to, and I have unfortunately been in a situation with a sponsor in the past where they pulled my entire contract over something similar. I didn't think that would happen in this case, but it still carried the risk. That was misinterpreted - and then the misinterpretation was repeated and twisted and took on a life of its own.

4. I can say that with my hand on my heart, yes. Whether you believe me is another matter entirely, but I know my own mind and intentions. I may not always get things right, I may misfire, I may be a bit of a twit sometimes, but I mean well. And I try to learn from my mistakes, and make things right when I duck up.

 

[MooBelle]

Gonna have a mini twister and go back over the speed reading I've just done for any missed gems.

I should have had a mini twister. Instead had white chocolate Magnum. Was yuk....

 

[GrunkaLunka]

I was clarifying that if furloughed, work can't be done at all by the employee. A fair few businesses have tried to do that, get people to WFH whilst on furlough. TBH, I thought your post seemed a little ambiguous/suggesting that WFH could be done whilst on furlough, which is reasonable if you've not had to know the details of it, so I wanted to clear it up a bit. I misread it, but didn't take it as suggesting deliberate law breaking, I took it as not having the experience.

Thanks for clarifying, but no there was no mention of continuing to wfh when furloughed. I asked if you could furlough even if the employee could wfh. The answer is yes apparently.

 

[Saint_clemmie]

Tattlers chill out, I can’t catch up whilst having a daytime bath like the fancy witch I am.

@Jack_M if you are still here I would seriously stop taking the negative view of us here and really try to reframe it in a positive way.
These threads are littered with fantastic career advice and constructive criticism. I can’t remember her day job but you should swoop in and hire @heretoreaditall2019, she’s the best Momanger you could wish for, she’ll sort you out.

 

[emm]

There's also an underlying tone of racism with a a fair few people. Hence the orange nazi with his pissy comments with Covid. Needing to blame foreigners/different ethnicities for everything. Or somebody I no longer have contact with, with his 'it's the fault of Africans/Chinese eating what they shouldn't' (obviously somewhat more offensively put than that)

exactly, this id what jack should be addressing rather than threatening members here

 

[heretoreaditall2019]

Im so hungry, but so hot & bothered that I cannot be bothered to make anything

exactly my dilemma, I don't know how much I believe this but the smart home room detector thingies are saying it's 28 degrees in the house but I don't know if I believe a white box.

I had a sponsor. He turned out to be not a brilliant person. Groped my thigh in his car. Abandoned me in the rain in the middle of nowhere. Shouted in my face because I was two minutes late to a meeting (not AT the meeting, but afterwards.) I fell out of AA after that but I went back a few months ago. I want to say that my experience there in no way reflects AA as an organisation and it doesnt seem typical, so I don't want to put anyone off who may be looking for help. I just seem to bleeping pick em. I'm now doing the dial in meetings and online ones. I read my books every day. I'm doing the steps. I rarely out myself as being part of AA because it goes against the whole anonymous thing but I can't seem to answer your statement without saying it somehow, so there it is.

I don't want to dog pile you on this as it's such a sensitive subject - but another fellow here. I am really sorry this happened to you and it's completely unacceptable, unfortunately there are predators in all walks of life as we all know as women ! I do hope you know there are structures in place to safeguard us from people like this, and there are people in that group/others you could speak to. You can call the GSO for signposting towards these.

I was hugely disappointed to see that this was published with no additional context, no balance, just that. There are traditions for a reason re: anonymity at levels of press and media, I appreciate that in a #metoo era these may need revising or nuancing but there's no doubt that to a potential newcomer that will undoubtedly turn them away, especially as so many women in the rooms have experienced sexual trauma in the past? It's not just you there are a lot of people with public platforms who do this & I just wish they wouldn't. Hopefully in the future the Guardian will commission you for another piece and you can write this balanced view there.

 

[Badlyplatedflapjacks]

I MIGHT HAVE A GIN UNO.

I've literally just made myself one. Cracking weather for it. Chin chin!

 

[Cbacooking]

1. It was my initial intention to do a channel handover. I spoke to a group of friends - including Black women - who advised me emphatically NOT to do this because of the level of abuse my account attracts. So I didn't.

2. I did some retweeting, but not as much as I wanted to do. I'm not sure if you noticed, but I was having a breakdown.

3. I clarified that on IGLive the next day. The company supported me from the off. I was breaching my contract by refusing to do the episode, which was the risk I referred to, and I have unfortunately been in a situation with a sponsor in the past where they pulled my entire contract over something similar. I didn't think that would happen in this case, but it still carried the risk. That was misinterpreted - and then the misinterpretation was repeated and twisted and took on a life of its own.

4. I can say that with my hand on my heart, yes. Whether you believe me is another matter entirely, but I know my own mind and intentions. I may not always get things right, I may misfire, I may be a bit of a twit sometimes, but I mean well. And I try to learn from my mistakes, and make things right when I duck up.

It really didn’t feel like it was clarified at all. Felt very much like people had told you what to say when in effect it said nothing. You implied that your contract was at risk, that you had to ask them to cooperate. Basically bigging yourself up.

 

[emm]

Thanks for clarifying, but no there was no mention of continuing to wfh when furloughed. I asked if you could furlough even if the employee could wfh. The answer is yes apparently.

i know lots lf people furloughed who are being forcedto work, its so illegal and i was asked to and got my manager to override the decision and say i couldn't. you never know if that would mean you would bave to pay back money etc

 

[Lady Punchbag]

Hi Jack, how did you manage to get diagnosed with autism in one visit to your GP.? Because they’re not qualified to do that. Did you go through the referral process with specialists as is the norm? If so, how long did it take to get the diagnosis?

 

[Flumps]

Im so hungry, but so hot & bothered that I cannot be bothered to make anything

God. Same. I was brought a Solero a little while ago though so that will probably do me.

 

[Jack_M]

Oh goodness me, I feel like the rules need to cut both ways. I would never ever ever condone abusing @Jack_M or hounding her on her various platforms, but arghhhh can’t we all just be over here talking about the endless manipulation and piss taking Patreon and irresponsible behaviour - without Jack coming and shouting at us? FWIW Jack, a huge percentage of people on this thread were rooting for you at one stage. As far as I can tell, anybody taking things too far is immediately told to stop by not only members, but also very swiftly dealt with by Admin. People here are fed up with you as they also have, or have had chronic illness, mental health issues, addiction etc and feel that you have twisted your own experiences to fit into a perpetual victim narrative, which you happily cash in on whilst bemoaning your impoverished existence. There are thousands of comments on here that expose your many lies and narcissistic tendencies.... @Nonnymouse seems to have got you riled up, but can you answer to all of the other things said on here? Not one single thing said on here has been based on anything other than what you yourself have put out there in the public domain. Nobody here should be trolling you, and if they are, no regular posters here would find that acceptable at all. If everything here is libel, it’s only because we’ve got the bullshit from the horses mouth.

I'm not a liar. I wish I had the time to sit here and counter every single untrue thing on here that's been said about me, every thing you yourselves have twisted to fit the narrative of me you wish to paint and project. I've been so tempted, so many times.

Like the other day I was tempted to post a photo of the bleeping grey unit that WAS 93kg - it's not the one in the middle of my studio floor, it's the one in the tiny room next door that's twice the size. I have four sideboards in my house, I mean congrats on correctly identifying one of them, but it was the wrong one. Speculation about my income. Speculation about my son, my sons father, my personal life, my exes, my home, my weight, my meds, I could sit here and literally counter every single one of them if I had the time. You have no idea how much self control it's taken not to bowl over here with photos of my labelled ADHD and arthritis meds, doctors letters, prescription photos, payslips, the lot.

 

[Debarkle]

Thanks for clarifying, but no there was no mention of continuing to wfh when furloughed. I asked if you could furlough even if the employee could wfh. The answer is yes apparently.

Yep I’ve been working from home but was also furloughed for a month when work died down (and a big proportion of my workload was paused). Back to work now and my workload is nearly back to normal but still at home for the foreseeable. What Jack is doing with furlough is fine but I think the schemes changing and you can be furloughed/work part time which Jack may find useful if her admin is able to do that.

 

[heretoreaditall2019]

God. Same. I was brought a Solero a little while ago though so that will probably do me.

@Pocahontas has revolutionised my life, I bought one of those ice lolly molds for like £7 and they're such a life line! I do 80% Tropicana 20% water and am obsessed, I have two a day but justify it with it's less than a glass of orange juice? And being preggo I need fruit juices to assist with...... digestion....... so it's pretty much a health food. We're still wholly reliant on Ocado who are out of individual lollies/ice creams unless you go for weird tit like a fab?!

 

[GrunkaLunka]

I for one would LOVE to see Jack prove every single thing on these threads wrong.

 

[MancBee]

there was a great community of smart, funny women (and the odd Mancunian man)

That had me hooting so much I nearly laughed up a lung. Though I am a very odd Salfordian, if I want to be pedantic. (but I can walk to Manchester City Centre quicker than I can to Salford Shopping City, as Salford City Centre is laughingly called.)