The thing that really struck me about it is looking at the old footage and seeing the change in Savile. By the mid-70s he looks absolutely deranged and that only got worse. Not surprising really as by that point he must have felt completely invincible, having been embraced by the entire establishment.I know exactly what you mean. I think many of us her have dealt with a “dark triad” personality or had dealings with out-of-control personality disordered types. Many people have PDs and manage them very well, let’s not forget.
Savile groomed organisations, institutions, Britain. Offenders like him don’t just groom their physical victim, we have to do better at recognising these behaviours in the wild and calling them out. The MO of manipulation, gaslighting, grandiosity etc is clear in Jack.
I’ve seen him before and was very very drunk.I went to see him years and years ago and he made a racist comment during one of his ad libs (can't remember what it was exactly, but something to do with 'Asian ladies'). It went down like a lead balloon in the audience, everyone went very quiet, side-eying each other and there was some booing, it was all very awkward and spoiled the whole night. So I've never really understood the love for him, because those who are into his poetry must know about this undercurrent of nastiness in him (I was dragged along to the gig by a pal so wasn't really aware of his work).
Yup. And this will be the ending of us all I reckonJack never fact checks, the squigs never fact check, it's like an ever decreasing circle of fact-free information.
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They offer “grifting media poorfisher” at schools careers evenings now, dear heart!Sorry Hotes but I felt ‘career’ needed the inverted commas.
I watched the Savile thing last night. It is quite terrifying. I know someone who isn’t doing anything like Savile did but who we call the work predator, and he has a strange attitude to relationships and life in general. I couldn’t help but just kept going omg omg that’s like how xxxxx answers questions. Liars. Extreme liars. Damaged liars though.The thing that really struck me about it is looking at the old footage and seeing the change in Savile. By the mid-70s he looks absolutely deranged and that only got worse. Not surprising really as by that point he must have felt completely invincible, having been embraced by the entire establishment.
As an academia herr, I’m already imagining an access course in “Transition to Multiple Platform Grifting”, followed by the inevitable joint-degree in “False Advertising and Anachronism History”. There would of course be PG options in “Advanced Gaslighting” and “Hedge Fund Lesbian Fishing”.They offer “grifting media poorfisher” at schools careers evenings now, dear heart!
BIB - hootingAs an academia herr, I’m already imagining an access course in “Transition to Multiple Platform Grifting”, followed by the inevitable joint-degree in “False Advertising and Anachronism History”. There would of course be PG options in “Advanced Gaslighting” and “Hedge Fund Lesbian Fishing”.
That killed me off too, it's just perfect for Jack. She's probably googling now to see if it might be a real thing.BIB - hooting
The VBI started ELEVEN WEEKS AGO oh my god. That's nearly 3 months ago?! How have nearly three months of my life passed since then....Morning ninnies. Some #SaturdayStats because I clearly have nothing better to do with my weekend:
It's been 19 hours since Jack told Twitter she was cooking the previous evening's GORGEOUS dinner again in order to photograph and share it.
It's been exactly 11 weeks since she announced the Vainglorious Blimp Index and said it was going to take her "the weekend" to pull together.
It's been almost 3 months since she told her followers she was going to softly, gently, restfully aim to post three new recipes a week (and pinky promised to post the broccoli breakfast pasta recipe later that day). A grand total of zero recipes has been posted.
It's been 3 months and 2 weeks since she claimed a crack team of a dozen tech experts were working round the clock to fix her WordPress site, which is still stuck on a backup from 2018 (she's tapped her followers for repair donations TWICE since then).
It's been exactly 4 months and 1 week since she said she was putting the framed prints of her completely unedited tree photo up for sale "this evening". There is still no trace of said prints in her online shop.
It's been 1 year and 5 weeks since she posted "Good morning from me and my book deadline!" on Twitter. She is still, somehow, editing this same book.
It's been over 1 year and 4 months since she posted an update for her Patreon subscribers (not even a brief "thank you" message after the influx of hundreds of new mugs in February).
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I don't rate her anymore either.Nigella on Saturday Kitchen and I am just not able for her anymore.
That Patreon shout out has killed her off for me.
Difficult one for me, this. Because where do you draw the line?I went off Gill Scott Heron for the same reason. Different terminology but same piss poor attitude
Yeah and I think it’s a spectrum. Just because someone acts a bit like that doesn’t mean they are a sexual predator. However I reserve the right to assume the worst and not engage with that person in certain ways, and to call out anything they say which I find inappropriate, without being dismissed as “too serious/sensitive/just a joke” etc.I watched the Savile thing last night. It is quite terrifying. I know someone who isn’t doing anything like Savile did but who we call the work predator, and he has a strange attitude to relationships and life in general. I couldn’t help but just kept going omg omg that’s like how xxxxx answers questions. Liars. Extreme liars. Damaged liars though.
Yeah, Molko is calling himself a Nancy Boy, effectively. I'd still expect radio to censor it if they played it though. Although they are quite inconsistent about that sort of thing, so who knows. See the yearly reeeing about Fairytale of New York.Do you mean Placebo dear heart? The singer is Brian Molko?
My take would be that Placebo's track is written/sung by and from the point of view of a bisexual man who enjoyed wearing makeup and was perceived as the Nancy Boy of the title.
John Cooper Clarke - not so much.
The greatest response I’ve seen on this topic is Shane McGowan re Fairytale of New York mentioning f****t. He’s just like, we used to say it then, now people don’t say it. Bleep it if you want, I don’t care, things change. Do what you think is best.Difficult one for me, this. Because where do you draw the line?
GSH, JCC, Chuck Berry, Morrissey, James Brown, Mick Jagger, The Who, The Stones etc etc.
If we stop listening to the artists we love based on something they’ve written, then all we’re left with is Celine Dion and KT Tunstall - bland, MOR shite.
I’m progressive, or at least I like to think I am, but I believe in freedom of expression even if I don’t agree with what’s been said. I don’t think I could honestly say I would walk out of a live show of an artist I paid to go and see, or stop listening to albums I bought because I disagree with something they’ve said.
It’s a difficult one.
Exactly. He still gets paid either way, so he doesn't have any reason to careThe greatest response I’ve seen on this topic is Shane McGowan re Fairytale of New York mentioning f****t. He’s just like, we used to say it then, now people don’t say it. Bleep it if you want, I don’t care, things change. Do what you think is best.
The thing that really struck me about it is looking at the old footage and seeing the change in Savile. By the mid-70s he looks absolutely deranged and that only got worse. Not surprising really as by that point he must have felt completely invincible, having been embraced by the entire establishment.
Spare a thought for me, I initially misread it as Hedge Fund Lesbian Fisting and thought the aneurysm was upon us.Hedge Fund Lesbian Fishingomg, I’m crying
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