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under the ivy

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Was Colin’s manager wanting to sleep with him? I figured that from the first episode where he tells him to wash. But then when they go to NY and he comes in the room with wine and sees the magazines, he changes his mind. I’m guessing he changes his mind thinking Colin might have HIV?
 
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Cocobaby09

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They were frightening times. A lot of misinformation fear and ignorance. The medical community didn’t understand the disease. So were unable to give advice.
An already stigmatised group were being judged and punished for having sex. Men were outed as they became ill. Families friends and lovers tried to navigate the loss of loved ones with little support. They were dark times. But it was the orgaanisation within the community , political agitation and ultimately medical breakthroughs that helped people to live with the disease and lift the stigma.
We have to know our history to understand our present
The scene when Jill was getting her contraceptive pill from the GP and she asked him for info on AIDS and he was sooooo dismissive and "It doesn't affect YOU" ugh.
 
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Plasticbox

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It's also odd how thrillers, horror stuff and violence and killings are seen as en vogue in media (books, film, TV), but "chick lit" and rom coms are ridiculed and dramas about uncomfortable topics are avoided like the plague, but hey let's watch the latest gore fest and don't be a baby about it :rolleyes: Oh and action films are mega cool anyway... 🤦‍♀️
How many men would watch it if it was about lesbians? Just think about that...
 
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Dailychat

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Russel T Davis gave an interview that he originally wanted to make 8 episodes and 1 included a time jump to today to see how the characters were doing. Jill was to visit Richies mum to explore sexual abuse in the family. I would have loved to see his idea to have been fulfilled.
 
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Imainlylurk

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There are still specialist HIV wards in London, which are now more about specialist treatment rather than containing the virus. Because of the effectiveness of HIV treatment these days they aren't always needed and cancer patients may use the beds (based on what a friend told me who worked on one).

I felt sorry for Keeley Hawes even though she was so awful at the end. Very good writing and acting.
 
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Rodneytrotter

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Just finished watching this, it was absolutely fantastic. The but that got me teary the most was at the end with the park bench scene when Jill was remembering happier times. It also educated me as I had no idea that aids caused dementia.

I was born in 1982 and im glad times and attitudes have changed....
 
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Dak1988

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Just finished the last episode. God, this was such an emotionally devasting series. I was so surprised at how eager I was to watch each episode given the harrowing subject matter, but I was so fully absorbed in it. I was looking forward to but also dreading every episode.

The moments that really got me the most 😭😭 where - SPOILERS -

- Jill sitting with the lonely patient in hospital at the end. Utterly heartbreaking.
- Richie's mum announcing he'd already died. I gasped out loud. I was fully expecting a final emotional reunion between him and Jill. It was really shocking to be robbed of that.
- Colin 💔💔💔 I had an uneasy feeling he would be the first of the main gang to get ill. Just the fact that his lifestyle was so at odds with the other boys. His final scenes were actually not only totally heartbreaking, but very disturbing. I would not be able to sit through them again.

Superb.
I also gasped. I was so wanting them to have a final goodbye with Richie. So sad 😫😭💔
 
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Pamellla

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Seeing the viewing figures made me so happy, the cast and crew must be so made up and rightly so ❤
 
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Shutterbug99

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I finished it this morning. Best thing I have watched in a long time. It was sad and made me tear up a few times, but it wasn't as bleak or as graphic (with the death scenes) as it might have been. I'm kind of glad of that, to be honest, and for lighter moments throughout the show.

I follow The Aids Memorial on Instagram and what those men went through (and how they were treated by society) just breaks my heart over and over again.
 
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Libbylulu

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When Ritchie is in the hospital and Ash says to his mother that he’s having the best care and that Jill visits every day, her face and demeanor changes. That and the mum in the kitchen is what makes her want to take him away and punish them and their friendship.

each time I watch the series I notice something new. It truly is excellent
 
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Prince fan 1999

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Just finished the last episode. God, this was such an emotionally devasting series. I was so surprised at how eager I was to watch each episode given the harrowing subject matter, but I was so fully absorbed in it. I was looking forward to but also dreading every episode.

The moments that really got me the most 😭😭 where - SPOILERS -

- Jill sitting with the lonely patient in hospital at the end. Utterly heartbreaking.
- Richie's mum announcing he'd already died. I gasped out loud. I was fully expecting a final emotional reunion between him and Jill. It was really shocking to be robbed of that.
- Colin 💔💔💔 I had an uneasy feeling he would be the first of the main gang to get ill. Just the fact that his lifestyle was so at odds with the other boys. His final scenes were actually not only totally heartbreaking, but very disturbing. I would not be able to sit through them again.

Superb.
Agree with everything here. I did think when Richie's mum met Gill to say Richie had died,I thought she was lying to get rid of Gill.
 
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AdelesEarring

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I thought this was such an amazing depiction of what happened in the early days of people being diagnosed with HIV. It really drew me in and I felt so, so sad at the end when the main character died and his mum had kept his friends away from him so they couldn’t say goodbye and couldn’t support him. Just thinking about it is making me well up 😥

I grew up in the 80s and I remember not only how prejudiced my parents were about HIV but also about gay men. My dad would not shop in a convenience store that was run by a gay couple because he thought he could catch HIV from there. Luckily I didn’t grow up with his bigoted opinions!

I think It’s A Sin does a great service to explaining just how awful that whole thing was in the 80s.
 
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Boredofgrey

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I knew their treatment in hospital would be bad but this broke me ! Absolutely horrific. The ending.. awful. Im in the LGBT community and only my best friends and sister know.

I've also told my therapist and it was a hard thing to accept. I knew I was sexually attracted to women but only romantically to men. Im also demi sexual so it made it stressful for me. Thinking, do I fancy that actress or is it in my head ? This shouldn't be something we still question.

I mentioned on another thread, I told my mum and aunt I could be bi last summer. My aunt laughed. And said that when you find the man you'll marry, he won't respect or love you. As in that he would cheat or just not take me seriously.

Im 29 this year and I've never been to Pride. One of my best friends is an out gay man and I just want to go and party with him but its also as if I dont feel worthy. Like because my preference is male I dont count as LGBT.

This show made me cry like a baby. Thinking about if I was living in Ireland there with my best friend, I'd be working 24/7 about him. Imagining if I was in a hospital alone with no one. Or locked up like Henry and Colin. Horrific.

I've watched it 3 times already. Its so so so important. I started Pose too and its amazing.

Here is to a million more shows about LGBT history.
Not sure if you need to hear this and I hope you’re not offended but love is love.
Be free and know you are worthy 😘
 
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FatherJackHackett

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Oh my goodness I'm so glad to find a thread on this. I have only got around to watching it and what can I say? I laughed and I cried. A superb show.
 
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Spacemonkey1972

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Just finished watching. Half 11 in the morning and I’m sobbing. What wonderful writing and acting. RTD is brilliant. Queer As Folk was a great series. I was born in 72 so was a teenager through the 80s. I remember those adverts, but I mostly remember the misinformation around HIV and AIDS. You can get it from a toilet seat was 1 such piece 🤦‍♀️ When Princess Diana held a patients hand it really broke a few barriers. I thought Keeley Hawes played her part so well. Luckily things have changed so much.
Wish I could go back to the 00s when I spent half my weeks galavanting round with my gay pals in Brum and Wolves!! Those were the nights 🎉
 
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Pah

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Wow what a fantastic tv drama. The acting was superb, very moving. Cried my way through the whole thing in one weekend
 
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Welsh1

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I initially watched this because the actor who plays Colin lives a mile or so away from me. I've just watched 3 episodes and to say I bauled my eyes out is an understatement. Very powerful yet extremely sad. Amazing acting also.
 
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