Ioan Gruffudd, Bianca Wallace & Alice Evans #176 ApocAlice Now

[50degreesnorth]

I still don’t understand how Bianca repeatedly slammed the door on her. I’ve had to get the dog in the kitchen to give it a whirl. I opened the back door (inwards), then I had to ask the dog to sit in the gap and STAY so I could repeatedly slam his head.

Can someone much cleverer than me explain how this all works?

 

[Ally Pally]

This is just going to end up badly. I've seen some weird ass people in my lifetime but never someone like Al. She's so far gone. Those tweets are just insane!

Alice is convinced that she's interacting with Bianca I believe that is what's driving her.
I also think she's beyond livid that Ioan is working and on location, and of course Bianca is with him. Who knows maybe Bianca is also working as an extra on set.
I find it so incredible that after nearly three years Alice is literally still stuck in the same headspace, it's not healthy. It's not healthy for those girls either.

 

[UncoveredLurker]

What I saw over the year or so I was an advocate was purely physical abuse. Dirty, malnourished, unspeakable physical abuse. The goal was, unfortunately, always parent reunification. Whether parenting classes ordered, therapy ordered etc.

I can say I never saw any family who wasn't economically challenged and educationally challenged. I certainly learned all the limits of the foster care system. Hell, some of the kids were foster care kids.

The judge that handled my nieces case had asked me to volunteer as I was such a strong advocate for them. I found myself unable to do it long term as it hurt my heart so much knowing that the system is inadequate for the amount of abused children in this world.

O/T but I read this and think what you did was amazing. Advocates for children do incredible work. I also understand why it hurt your heart. I did a stint in family law (England and wales) and it nearly broke me. We specialised in local authority cases which are distressing. But it does highlight how tragic this case is. These girls could have had two separate households with two different but similar styles and both parents moving on. Alice would’ve had a larger payout from Ioan as she would be the main custodial parent So she would’ve been set for money.

those girls are suffering and they really don’t need to be. Alice has caused hurt because Ioan has left her. I don’t even think she loved him at the end - she just can handle being left.

 

[SC_love]

Ella is so traumatised by her mother she doesn’t even realise she’s traumatised. We all keep saying this but it’s true; her only hope now is a residential program and then going to live far, far away from Alice.

 

[Marj24]

I an increasingly concerned at how far Ella may go at the behest of her mother. With "mommy dearest" pleading innocence if Ella does something that get herself in serious trouble.

 

[MarmiteMonster]

I still don’t understand how Bianca repeatedly slammed the door on her. I’ve had to get the dog in the kitchen to give it a whirl. I opened the back door (inwards), then I had to ask the dog to sit in the gap and STAY so I could repeatedly slam his head.

Can someone much cleverer than me explain how this all works?

Brilliant. I have two dogs of differing size and many doors so can test further options.

Off to slam dogs in doors - please do not call RSPCA or PETA.

 

[Occleshaw]

This is just going to end up badly. I've seen some weird ass people in my lifetime but never someone like Al. She's so far gone. Those tweets are just insane!

Every time I think she can't get any worse, she does. It's wearing me out. Cannot imagine I and B

 

[frobly-mobly]

The recent escalation in SM activity is disturbing, and seeing how far Ella has regressed in a relatively short period of time is especially distressing.

I wonder if there's a part of Ella confused as to why people don't believe her version of events. Depending on what mommy told her, she probably thought a TRO would be a fait accompli. Daddy was able to get a PRO against mom "so easily" so this should have been a walk over. Surely everyone will believe a child!

She's obviously reading the comments, so she would see that the majority are unfavorable towards her. Of course she would put some of this down to "trolls" and "Alice haters", but there must be a part of her wondering why this hasn't all gone her way, why isn't she being coddled and why don't people believe a child? Is she starting to have some doubts and she's too frightened to articulate this to her mother? That part of this escalation is due to confusion, fear and anger?

Either way, if this makes it to court, I hope the judge spells it out to her in no uncertain terms about the seriousness of the situation she finds herself in.

At the essence of it all, the Abuser is an evil piece of work.

 

[Hoopla]

The increasing number of sexual references in the tweets related to (or by?) the daughter is really concerning.

If Alice is going to start pushing that narrative (like she threatened to as per the court docs), there really will be no going back.

It's a dangerous game and there will be no winners.

 

[Ally Pally]

O/T but I read this and think what you did was amazing. Advocates for children do incredible work. I also understand why it hurt your heart. I did a stint in family law (England and wales) and it nearly broke me. We specialised in local authority cases which are distressing. But it does highlight how tragic this case is. These girls could have had two separate households with two different but similar styles and both parents moving on. Alice would’ve had a larger payout from Ioan as she would be the main custodial parent So she would’ve been set for money.

those girls are suffering and they really don’t need to be. Alice has caused hurt because Ioan has left her. I don’t even think she loved him at the end - she just can handle being left.

That last sentence 100%
Alice didn't want Ioan she just didn't want anyone else to have him.
I don't think she ever thought he'd leave her though.

 

[MrsDimSum]

I can’t help but wonder if Ella got in the car with Gloria and the friends Dad with this tale of being slammed in the door etc, why didn’t they call the police of take her to a station, why would they let IG continue to follow them home? Surely they will be asked this if they attend court as witnesses?

 

[Ametrine]

Alice is convinced that she's interacting with Bianca I believe that is what's driving her.
I also think she's beyond livid that Ioan is working and on location, and of course Bianca is with him. Who knows maybe Bianca is also working as an extra on set.
I find it so incredible that after nearly three years Alice is literally still stuck in the same headspace, it's not healthy. It's not healthy for those girls either.

Alice needs to realise that:

1) Bianca has a life and isn't going to be wasting it glued to Twitter
2) Bianca doesn't want to engage with Alice
3) Not that many people use Twitter
4) There is a life outside of Twitter and social media, and she should put her devices down and go outside and get some sun

 

[Ioanly.me]

Can the abuser be reported for breaking the RO and have a police knocking on her door to have all her electronic devices confiscated for forensic examination?

 

[AnneinHever]

It is sad to see she is turning Ella into a miserable loser like she has always been. No real friends, no life, no family.
I hope the damage can be undone.

It’s alarming that Ella also seems not to have any real life friends, only online friends. It’s also alarming that she seems to spend her time in the house and online at the age of 13. She should be out enjoying the LA sun with her friends.

 

[MarmiteMonster]

As these accounts got worse I really wanted to believe they weren’t either A or E but just someone sick trying to wind things up but the ongoing interaction with Tone suggests differently.

Although Tone doesn’t often come across as terribly bright and doesn’t know how Twitter works so he could probably be fooled too.

What a batshit crazy mess.

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

Ella is so traumatised by her mother she doesn’t even realise she’s traumatised. We all keep saying this but it’s true; her only hope now is a residential program and then going to live far, far away from Alice.

Ella has been gaslit up the wazzoo.

I noticed she's basically taking the piss out of the court documents, the PRO and AE breaking the PRO.

You could also see her ludicrous application for a PRO for her and Elsie as another pisstake. She is taught to laugh at things that are shameful, eg the car park rant is 'hilarious'.

If everything is abuse, then nothing is.
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MC: You are right, Mike. Alice has been on a number of dates but as soon as she sits down they realize she is the evil woman that used to be with Ioan Gruffudd and they get up and leave. I thought you'dwant to know that your campaign of hate has not been in vain. It's hurting her!

Could Alice really have been on dates? Guess she didn’t pull by the looks of it.
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MC: Ella - I hate my dad and his girlfriend because they abused me.

So what was the excuse before the incident then? She can't admit mommy PAed her.
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MC: I hear that Ioan and Bianca are living their "BEST LIFE" in Atlanta! And that means holed up in yet another tiny apartment covered in shrines and pictures of just themselves. No kids, no parents, no friends or family members. and #BEINGKIND! M'kay?

There is a lot of jealousy here. IG is working with Will Smith. Mommie and daughter spend Saturday night on sock accounts.

 

[NarcRage]

People who have been brainwashed don't realize they have been brainwashed. It's part of the brainwashing. She clearly very strongly believes what she feels. the odd comment to her on Twitter isn't going to undo the brainwashing, it just makes her more defensive of her position. She believes that she hates her father and he has done terrible wrongs to them all. Undoing that is going to be very difficult.

 

[IKickLikeKatya]

Ella has been gaslit up the wazzoo.

I noticed she's basically taking the piss out of the court documents, the PRO and AE breaking the PRO.

You could also see her ludicrous application for a PRO for her and Elsie as another pisstake. She is taught to laugh at things that are shameful, eg the car park rant is 'hilarious'.

If everything is abuse, then nothing is.
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MC: You are right, Mike. Alice has been on a number of dates but as soon as she sits down they realize she is the evil woman that used to be with Ioan Gruffudd and they get up and leave. I thought you'dwant to know that your campaign of hate has not been in vain. It's hurting her!

Could Alice really have been on dates? Guess she didn’t pull by the looks of it.
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MC: Ella - I hate my dad and his girlfriend because they abused me.

So what was the excuse before the incident then? She can't admit mommy PAed her.

No hate campaign needed. Most people don't have a clue of who Al is. A few minutes of engaging with her over drinks would make any man run far and fast.

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

MC: I wonder if Bianca ever regrets this bowler hat + square glasses mime-act selfie? gonna stroke may chin while I think about it

Mocking someone's perfectly fine looks? Something Alice always did and now the daughter too? Again jealousy that B is happy and mommie and daughter clearly aren't. I never believed the 'happy happy house' bollocks.

 

[AnneinHever]

Pats herself on the back here. Dumbass.
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