Ioan Gruffudd and Alice Evans #5 Malice in wonderland

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I think he released that photo of him and BW because after a period of time in France (probably the longest time they have spent together as a couple) he realises that his relationship with B is serious, and she will be coming back to LA at some point with him. Perhaps that is the big change AE said that he said was happening.

She still doesn’t accept that her behaviour drove him away. He might have had crossover with BW but we saw how crazy she was in April 20, months before IG said that he wanted a divorce. Plus the childish online presence. This has built up over time.
tbh I think he felt like public opinion of her is already damaged enough on this matter that he can get away with this, hence his attempt to put himself in the victim role with the "thank you for making me smile again" dig in reference to him having to live with such an abusive person (which she is based on her SM). And he is probably right to some extent: There is a lot less support for Alice than for other celeb women who were dumped (and possibly cheated on), and it will probably decrease the more she posts (as it already happened). Most comment sections are negative on her (here, mumsnet, dlisted, celebitchy, reddit, DM, etc., it's only really Social Media where it's more positive, but that's in parts because her people are controlling and in specialised blogs that are always biased), but they are also mainly negative on him because Alice pretty quickly established the cheater narrative and because the post with caption was dumbass in context.

The thing he probably underestimated is that his main fan base consists of 40-65 years old women (or thereabouts), and they will almost always side with a woman that was left, especially if cheating has possibly occured, no matter the fact that Alice is very obviously a unreliable narrator with all her contradictions. I have no idea if this will bite him or not. People claim that they boycot but in reality just more watch when this sort of stuff happens (no freaking soul would know of his TV show in France without this LOL), so unless he does something criminal (or Alice claims it, *cough* CP *cough*) or she releases tapes of him talking badly of high horses (cause at this stage I doubt that just saying it will make anyone relevant believe this, given how she is) I'm not convinced that it will really damage his career a lot, Alice has probably not the greatest reputation and she certainly will have it even less if she doesnt play a divorce by the book (while he does), it indicates that you could cause trouble on set too. Might actually work in his favour: he has mentioned before that his age/face now suits better to villain roles, might be a help if people dont associate you with a nice guy then LMAO. This all btw plays so heavily against Alice's and her people claim that he cares a lot about his good image, if he had he would have accepted all her demands.

My only problem is that I dont see a reason why he couldnt wait until he is back, and tells it his kids in person (I understand not telling them remotely, Alice would have tweeted this in an instant), cause atm he is totally playing with fire of Alice losing it while he is in France. It's a real safety issue. And if you have to leave filming because of a troubled personal life that definitely will not be helpful either. He probably would have played it perfectly had he waited till the next time he is in Oz, then you could have created a way more realistic timeline for him not cheating. But maybe Alice is right and his girlfriend got impatient at him not commiting soon enough? Maybe he was scared that paps will get them at some point (one reason why the cheater narrative isnt as prominent as Alice wishes is because he came out himself, cheaters are meant to be caughed)? Idk
 
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The part in the DM article where she said he called his parents, started talking to them in Welsh and burst into tears is quite off.
 
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A lot of people expect family lawyers to be therapists and Hand holders. They are literally there to ensure your partnership is divided fairly and lawfully. I often wonder how much of their fees is made up of unnecessary tit for tat correspondence.
A family member recently was part of a legal separation, they defended themselves against ex who had a solicitor. It worked out that each email read by the solicitor was billed £20 if they had to respond to the email was anywhere between £20 & £100. A shocking amount of money for an email
 
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I think what will be interesting will be IG’s actions once this shoot in France is done. I imagine he’s been stuck with not being able to break contract but then possibly being threatened by being outed by the media re his new relationship hence trying to get ahead with the Insta posts from him and BW.
Probably not the way he wanted to do it but he may have had his hand forced there.
If when filming is done he’s not straight back to LA and the kids, then yep, I’d say he’s just as bad in terms of his parenting.
 
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A family member recently was part of a legal separation, they defended themselves against ex who had a solicitor. It worked out that each email read by the solicitor was billed £20 if they had to respond to the email was anywhere between £20 & £100. A shocking amount of money for an email
Really crazy and that’s why Im not sure all this flame fanning is helpful because the lines of clarity are completely burned ultimately at the cost of the victim.
 
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Both of them absolutely need to cut the crap and put the girls first !!
As a child I was caught up in the middle of a nasty and sometimes violent divorce between my parents !
I cannot even put into words the anxiety and stress and worry it put me through as a small child
Both parents wanted me to hate the other parent it was always their feelings, their hurt never ever once did anyone STOP and ask ME how I was or even consider how their actions were effecting me !!

I don’t agree with the way Alice has dealt with this situation from the very very start when she tweeted whilst they were still together ! Some things really are best kept private ! I also don’t agree with the way IG has dealt with their relationship ! He has run away rather than facing up to his responsibilities !

But in all this BOTH of them have not put the children first and this should have been kept from children as much as possible !

Alice is making this new relationship of IG as a rejection of the children but it’s a totally separate situation !

I really wish they would both just think of the children and not be so wrapped up in themselves !!
To play devil's advocate - what was he meant to do? Stay in an unhappy marriage. He told her it was over and more than a year later he is seeing someone else.

What does facing up to his responsibilities mean?
 
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To play devil's advocate - what was he meant to do? Stay in an unhappy marriage. He told her it was over and more than a year later he is seeing someone else.

What does facing up to his responsibilities mean?
Just going from what I have read I feel when this all started in the beginning it would of been so much easier if he had just come clean and said he didn’t want to be married.Marriages break down people move on it’s life it happens ! Alice doesn’t seem to accept this and he was obviously very unhappy a while ago but came home to her from Australia and maybe gave her false hope ?
So then he has been away from the children for months and months I don’t see how that is acceptable?? How about him making more of an effort to see the children and be in their day to day lives no matter how difficult she is making it ! To me it seems he has take the easier way out ! Do the children not deserve to see their dad ???
 
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I just noticed Wiki (and therefore Google) is showing her age at 53 in contrast to IMDb at 50. Wiki has it fact checked from birth records on FamilySearch 🙊
 
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To play devil's advocate - what was he meant to do? Stay in an unhappy marriage. He told her it was over and more than a year later he is seeing someone else.

What does facing up to his responsibilities mean?
He definitely shouldnt have made the post that send Alice even more insane while he is in France and she alone with them. Especially not with a caption that will also hurt his kids no matter if they knew before or not.

Then it depends of course how many of her other accusations you wanna believe, but that one is factual out there

Just going from what I have read I feel when this all started in the beginning it would of been so much easier if he had just come clean and said he didn’t want to be married.Marriages break down people move on it’s life it happens ! Alice doesn’t seem to accept this and he was obviously very unhappy a while ago but came home to her from Australia and maybe gave her false hope ?
So then he has been away from the children for months and months I don’t see how that is acceptable?? How about him making more of an effort to see the children and be in their day to day lives no matter how difficult she is making it ! To me it seems he has take the easier way out ! Do the children not deserve to see their dad ???
He was till August a whole year in LA. He is an actor that cant exactly pick the roles and has to feed his family. What are we expecting him to do?
 
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He definitely needs to go and be with his kids once he’s finished working. Possibly try and make some degree of amends with his ex-wife to enable coparenting although I think that rather depends on her acceptance of the situation.
 
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Wow! Just caught up on Twitter, it’s like someone’s put 50p in the village idiot 😳
 
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AE keeps mentioning how awful it is that the eldest daughter is on Instagram and had to see the post their dad made with the new girlfriend.
I’m not sure what’s worse to be posting for the child/ren to see - a picture with the new girlfriend they didn’t know about (yes very hurtful), or the constant social media onslaught of their father publicly? To me they’re both terrible and they should both be just as ashamed at what they are letting their girls, and the public!, witness.
 
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He definitely needs to go and be with his kids once he’s finished working. Possibly try and make some degree of amends with his ex-wife to enable coparenting although I think that rather depends on her acceptance of the situation.
Absolutely this !
 
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My niece is similar age and her and her friends are on SM all the time and I’ll tell you now they are proper nosy. Possibly not so much Twitter at that age but definitely Instagram.
 
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Have any of her people pointed out if you have your social media completely public anyone can see it all, even your ex?
 
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Look, I get it. I get why she is going batshit on the internet, why she is tweeting all of her thoughts a millisecond after they enter her head and why she is trying to wreck Ioan’s life.

My ex husband did actually have an affair and although I filed for divorce it still stung when he moved on very quickly. I hated him with a vengeance, why did he get to move on and find love again when he’d been so cruel to me? Why was I left with the pain from betrayal and divorce when he seemed to face no ramifications? I shut up though, at least on social media. I vented to my friends and my family ONLY. Looking at my social media you’d not be able to see the immense pain I’d been in because I knew once it was out there that I couldn’t take it back. So I’d write out what I wanted to say in my notes when I was consumed with anger, leave it for a few hours and inevitably, once I’d calmed down, I’d delete it and be so grateful I hadn’t aired my dirty laundry in public. Because one thing my ex husband couldn’t take from me, because it was mine to give away, was my dignity. I could have blown up like Alice, or sit back and change my behaviour patterns, let the anger ebb and flow without acting on it every time and walk out of a divorce with my head held high. My ex husband can’t say the same, he’s a cheater and continued to rub his new relationship in my face since he left, but that’s on him and people do notice he’s acted like a twit.

I shut down communication with him on all non-essential subjects and only discuss the divorce, I blocked him on all social media and most importantly, I didn’t go looking at his social media after I’d blocked him (from a burner or what not). I knew he was happy, I knew he was serious with another woman shortly after I left, and yes it made me feel like tit that I’d been replaced so quickly but I decided it was none of my business anymore. Do you know what happened? I began to heal, I noticed the less I engaged with him and gave him reason to say “she’s crazy, look at how she’s acting” (because I did go crazy for a few months after he cheated, understandably), I found so much peace in being the bigger person! I healed myself by being responsible for my own actions and it’s a life lesson I’ll take with me forever. You can’t control what happens to you, you can’t control that life will be unfair towards you at times, but you can control your reactions, remove yourself from the drama and focus on your new life, because your life isn’t with them any more so why give them any of your precious time on this earth?

Ioan is moving on, and people telling Alice that his new relationship won’t last are actually doing her more harm, because it may very well last. She is probably waiting for the day it crashes and burns because she will be able to say HA I TOLD YOU SO, and if it doesn’t come she’s going to have another massive shock of hurt coming her way. She is showing him that he was totally right to leave by throwing a barrage of abuse at him and his new girlfriend. I feel for her, I really do, but she is only making it worse for herself. I wish she’d call a therapist instead of writing it out on Twitter, she’s leaving a legacy of possibly litigious quotes for loan to use against her in a divorce settlement.

As a little side note, I also come from a family where I was in the position Alice’s daughters are in, thankfully it didn’t play out on social media, but everything she’s saying was said to me, as the daughter. That stays with you for life, and if Ioan does one thing to ensure he is a good dad it’ll be getting those girls into therapy right now. Don’t wait for it to crop up in later life, they will absolutely need a safe space to talk about how their parents actions make them feel.

Anyway, that’s my 2p on this subject!
 
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