Do we have any details of when they started? I am interested in this very much. I've had panic attacks on and off all my life, so I'm really interested to know when his panic attacks started.
Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #52 More projection than a silent movie theater
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Me personally I would now leave first but having been trapped in a relationship I felt like I couldn’t escape, I can see why it might look like an option
You are lovely. You are pregnant and engaged. You should not even be thinking about infidelity. This should be the happiest time of your life!Thanks for your response
I definitely need to take a break. Not because of differing opinions, but I've picked up on a few snipey posts on the past few pages that have made me feel a little less valued / welcome this evening.
I'm not a good written communicator. I do try but I don't phrase sentences well, I say lots because I'm trying to make my point but I struggle to and I've seen people misinterpret what I'm saying over the past few hours which I know is my fault. Struggling to find the right words and put thoughts together is unfortunately a way that my ADHD presents itself.
I can't do anything but be my authentic self and unfortunately on this occasion it hasn't lined up with what you all think and feel.
I don't think we were trying to be patronizing with our "this is my experience when we are older". I am sorry if it felt that way. I think the main takeaway is you are never the same person from one year to the next. Communication and an awareness of how the other feels are the key. Something AE was incapable of.
And when they hand you that beautiful baby you will feel your heart grow to the size of the universe and will do anything to protect that little life.
None of my posts were directed to you. I was just sharing what life with an emotional abuser is like.
All the best of health,
and hugs to you.
Agreed. Especially at the end of a crappy AND abusive relationship. That's where I stand. The one thing I've learned in my 50+ years is that nothing is perfect and nothing is forever. Black and white thinking has never served me well.
Mine does read but I never ask in case it triggers a Ted talk about his book on demographics or Stalinist Russia. I’d rather hear about Leicester CiI don’t know much about the stage apart from a passionate love of Richard Burton but it’s brave and bold to do. I think Ioan would do well on a stage even singing, but it takes so much confidence and it might just not be for him
My partner doesn’t read. It is the one thing about him that slightly annoys me
He doesn’t watch football though he geeks out on YT
He can similarly do without me going on about Victorian literature. Pair of bleeping geek-a-zoids in this hoose.
I honestly love seeing any tv actor giving things a whirl on stage (not a euphemism. Maybe). Theatre is just incredible, I love it. But wow, the energy it must take.
Anyway, I hope no one is upset or had any unpleasant memories dredged up from what we’ve been discussing on here today.
Here’s something to lighten the mood:
Here’s something to lighten the mood:
I value you! I value your feelings and opinions so much. I might at times have a different perspective, but I will always want to read what you have to say.Thanks for your response
I definitely need to take a break. Not because of differing opinions, but I've picked up on a few snipey posts on the past few pages that have made me feel a little less valued / welcome this evening.
I'm not a good written communicator. I do try but I don't phrase sentences well, I say lots because I'm trying to make my point but I struggle to and I've seen people misinterpret what I'm saying over the past few hours which I know is my fault. Struggling to find the right words and put thoughts together is unfortunately a way that my ADHD presents itself.
I can't do anything but be my authentic self and unfortunately on this occasion it hasn't lined up with what you all think and feel.
Be gentle with yourself.
Fuckinell mate, that’s porn that is *fans self*
thread suggestion slightly altered second attempt because I was robbed (but I'm not going on about it...)
Alice's Cameo special opening offer - buy one get Tone free
Alice's Cameo special opening offer - buy one get Tone free
SHEER GOSPELI hope that never happens but I for one would be extremely sympathetic to you.
I wanted to respond to both you & @Ena Sharples.
I have been cheated on & I was devastated. It took me a very long time to get over it, made worse because I was (unlike Alice) genuinely blind sided. I totally understand where you both are coming from as I highly value fidelity/loyalty BUT this tit storm we are following is (for me anyway) so far removed from normal relationship barometers that I find myself with a slightly different mindset.
In part because there has been no definitive proof there was an affair. And because in my own mind I have no doubt that Ioan was abused for years, had tried to address that with her for years, was consistently ignored & further belittled & eventually running on empty he checked out emotionally, but stayed for the girls sake for as long as he could until he had to leave for his own sanity. There was talk of Alice thinking of leaving him, she also seemed to have had an emotional affair with MITH on twitter so she's far from the innocent blindsided victim she portrays.
She knew he was unhappy, she's admitted herself he tried for years to get her to change her ways so I have no sympathy for this woman who as a Narc doesn't even understand what love really means. If she did she wouldn't have treated him as she did & she certainly wouldn't be using the girls as pawns with her PA to screw Ioan over in revenge & simultaneously harm the girls. I personally think IG/BW were likely friends who bonded over their own different but hellish experiences & it grew from there, but whether it was an affair is to me largely irrelevant given all the other circumstances, which I simply can't ignore & it changes my normal b/w thinking on infidelity.
I have enormous empathy for women who are cheated on & blindsided as it stinks & hurts like hell. But knowing what I do from all the proof shown on here of IG/AE I can only feel relief for Ioan that he finally found the courage to leave such an abusive & toxic relationship.
I hope neither of you are put off from being here as I personally value you both.
@Ena Sharples - I am so sorry you lost someone close, but what a remarkable human being they were.
xxx
Thank you.You are lovely. You are pregnant and engaged. You should not even be thinking about infidelity. This should be the happiest time of your life!
I don't think we were trying to be patronizing with our "this is my experience when we are older". I am sorry if it felt that way. I think the main takeaway is you are never the same person from one year to the next. Communication and an awareness of how the other feels are the key. Something AE was incapable of.
And when they hand you that beautiful baby you will feel your heart grow to the size of the universe and will do anything to protect that little life.
None of my posts were directed to you. I was just sharing what life with an emotional abuser is like.
All the best of health,
I didn't think any of your posts were. I found your posts about your experiences incredibly interesting.Aww thank you sweetheart. I forgot to add if he cheats on you, I will personally fly over and kick him in the pee pee.Thank you.
He glances over occasionally from whatever shite he's watching and thinks he's being hilarious by calling it "Twattle".
I just say "Oh nothing much" as Tattle is for me and I also can't be arsed to attempt to explain it.
He has picked up and commented on my random celebrity knowledge now. I was a regular on the Secret Celeb Gossip thread until AE distracted me. Apparently we can't watch anything now without me saying "Oh, I heard something dodgy about him/her.. what was it again?" about at least one actor in it!
Thankfully we've never watched anything with AE or IG in it or the pause button would be on so long while I tried to explain that the TV would eventually switch itself off and I'd only be at summarising thread 11.
Wow, it's not every day you see an actor talk to the press about the hunger for fame. Usually it's "all about the work".
Just in from work now and just been looking at Bianca’s video, I don’t really know what to say. I just feel an overwhelming feeling of love for her. What an inspirational woman she is, I’d be so proud to call her my daughter
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You won't actually have to go very far at all if he does it after 29th Jan!Aww thank you sweetheart. I forgot to add if he cheats on you, I will personally fly over and kick him in the pee pee.
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Wham bam Salad cream man 40 bucks and it’s in the can!
Wham bam Salad cream man 40 bucks and it’s in the can!
I don’t like judging infidelity (infidels?
) So many shades of grey. None of us know what goes on behind closed doors. Unless it’s clear the cheater is just a horn dog and can’t stop getting their end away! In a perfect world, no one would cheat and everyone would end a relationship before moving on. And global poverty and hunger would end, global warming would be reversed, my stretch marks would disappear etc.
) So many shades of grey. None of us know what goes on behind closed doors. Unless it’s clear the cheater is just a horn dog and can’t stop getting their end away! In a perfect world, no one would cheat and everyone would end a relationship before moving on. And global poverty and hunger would end, global warming would be reversed, my stretch marks would disappear etc.That surgeon who scorched his initials onto his patient’s livers …
Omg I do that when we watch TV too! Or I'll Google - "this is the entire story of who this actor really is..." I'm trying to stop doing that.
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