Fame and money were definitely major motivations for Ioan. He didn't enjoy his time at RADA and only got a lead role in his final year. In a 2002 interview, he talked about Titanic and how he wanted to be Leonardo.I think some actors also want fame, and while there are tremendously talented theatre actors many are known only in theatre circles. One big movie can make you famous globally, up your rate, and make you more marketable. I don’t know his reasons for not doing theatre, but i could see this being factored in.
+1, All of the BIB ^I have been cheated on & I was devastated. It took me a very long time to get over it, made worse because I was (unlike Alice) genuinely blind sided. I totally understand where you both are coming from as I highly value fidelity/loyalty BUT this shit storm we are following is (for me anyway) so far removed from normal relationship barometers that I find myself with a slightly different mindset.
In part because there has been no definitive proof there was an affair. And because in my own mind I have no doubt that Ioan was abused for years, had tried to address that with her for years, was consistently ignored & further belittled & eventually running on empty he checked out emotionally, but stayed for the girls sake for as long as he could until he had to leave for his own sanity. There was talk of Alice thinking of leaving him, she also seemed to have had an emotional affair with MITH on twitter so she's far from the innocent blindsided victim she portrays.
She knew he was unhappy, she's admitted herself he tried for years to get her to change her ways so I have no sympathy for this woman who as a Narc doesn't even understand what love really means. If she did she wouldn't have treated him as she did & she certainly wouldn't be using the girls as pawns with her PA to screw Ioan over in revenge & simultaneously harm the girls. I personally think IG/BW were likely friends who bonded over their own different but hellish experiences & it grew from there, but whether it was an affair is to me largely irrelevant given all the other circumstances, which I simply can't ignore & it changes my normal b/w thinking on infidelity.
I have enormous empathy for women who are cheated on & blindsided as it stinks & hurts like hell. But knowing what I do from all the proof shown on here of IG/AE I can only feel relief for Ioan that he finally found the courage to leave such an abusive & toxic relationship.
I hope neither of you are put off from being here as I personally value you both.
@Ena Sharples - I am so sorry you lost someone close, but what a remarkable human being they were.
xxx
I think there is one specific factor we can think about for IG and theatre and film work.Sorry- having gone to professional theatre school (fir Costume Design) and worked in the field in both London and NY-all the speculation is making me a wee bit triggered-a life I left behind with joy. But will tell you this is a totally different world. I have witnessed some snobbery between actors in theatre and those in movies. And, we don't know his reasons. Speculating on a personal choice based on factors we have no idea about.
I think she’s just a confident and eloquent public speaker, hence why she probably wanted to get into acting, if she feels confident in from of the camera. I didn’t find her insincere at all. You’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t, with regards to discussing physical and mental health on social media. There’s always going to be people who assume you’re fishing for sympathy, when in fact you might just want to shed some light on a difficult subject and empower others. I try to see the good in everyone (I never used to be like this, this is something I’ve honed over the yearsI can’t find her insincere in that video. When she held up her hand and showed the tremor, it really hit home with me. It must be so frightening.
No don’t doubt yourself, you feel what you feel. When you are pregnant you feel very vulnerable and no one wants to start of their new life thinking it will all end badly. I think awkwardly actually many of us are saying we love our children so much we would just do anything to make them ok, or worry the most about themThanks for your response
I definitely need to take a break. Not because of differing opinions, but I've picked up on a few snipey posts on the past few pages that have made me feel a little less valued / welcome this evening.
I'm not a good written communicator. I do try but I don't phrase sentences well, I say lots because I'm trying to make my point but I struggle to and I've seen people misinterpret what I'm saying over the past few hours which I know is my fault. Struggling to find the right words and put thoughts together is unfortunately a way that my ADHD presents itself.
I can't do anything but be my authentic self and unfortunately on this occasion it hasn't lined up with what you all think and feel.
Just an FYI but I always appreciate your postsThanks for your response
I definitely need to take a break. Not because of differing opinions, but I've picked up on a few snipey posts on the past few pages that have made me feel a little less valued / welcome this evening.
I'm not a good written communicator. I do try but I don't phrase sentences well, I say lots because I'm trying to make my point but I struggle to and I've seen people misinterpret what I'm saying over the past few hours which I know is my fault. Struggling to find the right words and put thoughts together is unfortunately a way that my ADHD presents itself.
I can't do anything but be my authentic self and unfortunately on this occasion it hasn't lined up with what you all think and feel.
I have sympathy for anyone who is cheated on BUT I also have a lot of sympathy for someone who genuinely tried for many years, had their concerns ignored or publicly laughed at and was abused. It's not like they were a happy couple with a functional marriage and he just got bored.I have sympathy for anyone who is cheated on, what’s don’t have sympathy for is the way Alice has conducted herself since
True. But maybe his nerves aren't as frayed living with Bianca.But it could be that they'd also be triggered if he did live theatre, and that's why he avoids it.
Is it just me, or am I the only one with a partner who doesn’t ask what I’m reading? He’s watching Match of the Day anyway.Weirdly, my partner calls it 'Twattle' and I'm a bit scared he might actually be one of the FMs??? (Oh God, imagine if he's secretly salad cream boy)
The only thing saving me from this fear is that he's been calling it that since long before I started following the AE thread.
"So what's happening on the Tattle tonight?" He says he knows when Im on here by my extreme facial expressions
(I'm a resting bitch face sufferer)
Why is he being judged for not having the career of those two actors specifically? He still has a very solid career compared to many! And many actors have periods when they’re out of work. It seems very harsh to see it as a failing - it’s absolutely par for the course that actors are out of work for periods, isn’t it? Yes of course he could have not put a single foot wrong and never made a wrong decision, but he’s human. He seems to get judged on here for many things that seem unfair, but “not having the foresight to do enough theatre” is a new one!I checked his wiki. This is it. Vast difference with M Rhys, D Lewis etc
Theatre[edit]
Title Year Location Role Hedda Gabler 1995 London (RADA) George (Jörgen) Tesman Trouble Sleeping[28]
[29]1995 National Theatre Studio, London Unknown The Decameron[30][29] 1995 Gate Theatre, Notting Hill, London Unknown The Play What I Wrote 2001 Wyndham's Theatre, London Mystery Guest
I don’t know much about the stage apart from a passionate love of Richard Burton but it’s brave and bold to do. I think Ioan would do well on a stage even singing, but it takes so much confidence and it might just not be for himTrue. But maybe his nerves aren't as frayed living with Bianca.
My partner doesn’t read. It is the one thing about him that slightly annoys meIs it just me, or am I the only one with a partner who doesn’t ask what I’m reading? He’s watching Match of the Day anyway.
Why is he being judged for not having the career of those two actors specifically? He still has a very solid career compared to many! And many actors have periods when they’re out of work. It seems very harsh to see it as a failing - it’s absolutely par for the course that actors are out of work for periods, isn’t it? Yes of course he could have not put a single foot wrong and never made a wrong decision, but he’s human. He seems to get judged on here for many things that seem unfair, but “not having the foresight to do enough theatre” is a new one!
I don’t think anyone said anything about your life experiences. We all talked about our experiences. Cheating is for me painful but not nearly as bad as some other things one might encounter in life. We are not perfect and for some people it might be their way out of a very unhappy relationship. I won’t judge them for that. Of course there are always jerks who are serial cheaters, unable to respect other people’s feelings. I’ve known some of those, both men and women.Ok, sorry.
I agree with this and acknowledged it in a previous post. My issue is, why cheat at all? Why not "There are so many things you can do to fix a relationship beforecheatingending it"? I'm not specifically talking about abuse or what may or may not have happened in BW/IG's case - I just don't see what the issue is in having the respect to say 'it's over' before moving on to something new.
Anyway, I guess we all have different opinions on this so I won't argue the point any more. I'm still surprised that so many people think cheating is NBD, and that it's my lack of life experience that makes me feel that it is, but that's on me to deal with.
Thank youJust an FYI but I always appreciate your posts
You would, it’s human nature to be sympathetic.And just a quick message for @Caitlyn130, you most definitely would get sympathy on here if something like that happened to you sweetheart, you’re a valued member of this herd of turds and we all know how much cheating hurts, even if we all have different coping mechanisms
I said that but it was followed by an explanation: it’s not a big deal when you look to life as a whole, what happens to people every day, the hardships we have to deal with.That has specifically been said, yes.
+1, BIBYeah, this is where I am about it. I find it hard to feel any kind of moral outrage about cheating at the blurry end of a shitty relationship.
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