Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #52 More projection than a silent movie theater

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I'm not saying it's never forgivable. I'm not saying it's worse than cancer, or losing a child. If life leads you to a situation where one or both parties has cheated, then it's up to you both how you move forward. But I'm not going into a marriage thinking that it's in any way acceptable to deal with my feelings / problems by having sex with someone else. To do that would be making a conscious decision to hurt someone I love, or have loved, and I'm not okay with that. If I ever did it, I'd have to deal with the fact that I've done something extremely hurtful, not justify it by saying 'oh well the marriage was dead anyway, what does it matter?' That's just my feelings on it.
 
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The most sensible post I've read in a long time
 
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I agree with an earlier post, being cheated on is not the worse thing that can happen to you. I have been cheated on before and it was devastating at the time, but it didn’t have the profound effect on me as other life brickbats have done. I take a very pragmatic view of relationships these days. In an ideal world you would split up rather than lie to your partner that you were having an affair but life isn’t perfect. I am long time married, not interested in having another relationship, even if this one ended. I am at at a stage in life that I just could not be arsed looking for someone else. That’s not to say I wouldn’t want somebody in my life, if they arrived and I liked them and and were happy to live apart from me, I would go for it.

This isn’t going to land well, we have been sold a myth about relationships. I used to lap up Mills & Boons when I was younger. I was all in, bought that myth. This whole plight your troth to one person for the rest of your life is such a bizarre one for me now, perhaps age does that, although it has taken a while for the penny to drop. It isn’t for me, but how much healthier must open relationships be, if both parties are fully committed to it rather than just one partner saying they are to keep the other happy. One person cannot supply all that you need in life, and monogamous relationships feel outdated and designed to keep people in place, presumably because of religious reasons. If you are in a monogamous relationship and you want to hook up with other people, you owe it to your partner to tell them that, leaving them free to stay or go, but making that decision with full knowledge rather than finding out as a shock. However, just the whole monogamous relationship feels so outdated and unachievable.
 
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Well I didn’t always have great relationships I didn’t cheat, but I basically generated a massive argument with my ex (children’s father) so that I could leave.

I had tried the gentle way and he would just cry loads and then get angry at me. I felt so trapped. I also did ask him to change some things and he just told me all the things I had to change first (like have more sex with him even when I didn’t want to because he was being such a dick). I even went to counselling for 6 months, he wouldn’t come but even that didn’t give me the courage to leave him. So I didnt know what else to do I saw the options of:

behave badly so he would leave me
cheat (I didn’t)
leave without telling him first
cause a row so I could storm out

and I did the last one

and honest to god it was so scary
 
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They were RADA productions, not professional work once he'd left.
Seems like he got really consistent tv work straight out of RADA. I mean, I love love love theatre, I go twice a month (and the theatre actors I love most don’t have much of a presence on screen and aren’t famous at all really). But I’m not really getting the judgment here about IG’s career decisions? He doesn’t want to do theatre - well loads of actors don’t. I think it’s a valid choice if it isn’t what he wanted.
 
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I agree totally with you. I never cheated on my ex or anyone I have ever been with. And believe me, I raged and roared when I found out he cheated. But I also knew in my heart the marriage was not good. So, my view now is shades of grey, but with a leaning to the white.
 
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I think for me it's just more that if movies were what he was aiming for and the roles weren't materialising, then doing some theatre work could have improved his chances of the film career he really wanted. Not that I really know how the industry works but I would imagine it's a great way to raise your profile within the industry and also improve your craft.
 
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Yeah, this is where I am about it. I find it hard to feel any kind of moral outrage about cheating at the blurry end of a shitty relationship.
 
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Love this @ReturningthePearls ! Seriously you need to do a blog or podcast!!!
 
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I think some actors also want fame, and while there are tremendously talented theatre actors many are known only in theatre circles. One big movie can make you famous globally, up your rate, and make you more marketable. I don’t know his reasons for not doing theatre, but i could see this being factored in.
 
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Same. One comment on how moved I was by her video doesn't make me part of a "fan club." And we are debating this young woman's morals or lack of them like the FM's. Exactly what day did she and IG first have sex and we will base our support or like of her on whether we deem that an appropriate time. It's really none of our damn business. Like her or don't like her based on what little we see of her. Not on a nebulous "when did they have sex day."

PS none of this is our damn business but I'm still here every day dammit!
 
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I think it certainly can - I guess it entirely depends on the roles though, for whether Hollywood would care about it. I’ve seen actors on stage playing fairly small parts while also being the lead in a tv show, so I definitely don’t get how it works! Maybe you have to get your knob out. I have seen much theatre peen
 
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The photo from a thread or so ago, of IG on the floor with Little E (and somewhere a dog or cat according to AE) -- that's what did it for me

He was shrunken, exhausted, beaten

It was like a still from a movie. The already wounded hero with his little wooden sword being forced to battle a well armed giant. Beaten and exhausted, the hero falls to the ground. Above him looms the victor with a taunting smirk. Except in this instance, the beast pushes a camera into the hero's face, saying, 'Smile sweetie, come on, give us that smile. I'm going to post it online '

Good on you, IG. You survived. You're smiling again and hopping around in slippers in imitation of BW's dog in its new socks. You've come a long way. You're walking tall and straight
 
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"worldly eggs" this is it. This is exactly what Alice did and why she is falling apart now. Her eggs are broken and she has a fox (sorry Bianca) in the hen house preventing her from getting more eggs. If she were truly strong and courageous, she would be rebuilding the hen house, painting it, putting a good fence around it and getting some new cocks in the hen house
 
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My boyfriend says “are you gossiping again?”
Mine too!
thanks
It’s not weakness to do this but also it’s not self protection to give them all up
I have some little eggs for myself. Selfish ones
And anyone who minds that can’t be with me!
I check with my partner too that he has his eggs.
 
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Do you remember when Daniel Radcliffe first got his kit off for theatre? That was a major scandal!

I check with my partner too that he has his eggs.
In my boyfriend’s mother tongue, his eggs are his balls
 
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Do you remember when Daniel Radcliffe first got his kit off for theatre? That was a major scandal!
Equus! Daniel Radcliffe is actually a great theatre actor, I’ve seen him in a few things (usually fully clothed).

I have, sadly, also seen Dudley Dursley’s knob during King Lear.
 
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