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NarcRage

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Strikes me as a lonely old spinster who is desperate for someone (anyone) to engage with her on twitter. Most of her posts get no likes at all. It's quite sad really.
Pretty much all of them are a similar type - and I guess Alice is one of the only people who actually engaged with them.
Another reason why Ioan is well rid of her. How embarrassing for him - my wife talks openly to random weirdos on the internet. And my god are they weird....
 
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sweetnessfollows

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I went last week on her tiktok and noticed that the user she interacts most with is someone with a errr pretty explicit username that has called her an "annoying stupid anorexic ass" (I get sometimes it's jokes, but...) - I obviously don't know if her online friends are also her real life friends, but online friends are in those situations pretty dangerous because they tend (not all, obviously) to give "advice" that is to their entertainments benefit because they are simply too far away to be impacted by the consequences of any action they are encouraging. I can well imagine that those freaks on Ella's discord chat are exactly these kind of "friends" (and I put this in quotation marks by intention because from my experience in moderating discord servers those little friend circles are usually pretty toxic and all about being cool enough to belong there, which given the above quoted comment and the DM group name methinks is also the case here)
For those who might have missed it just to make it clear

- there's a public social media profile with pictures of the child that is from Alice
- that profile is interacting with another person who has a pornographic username
- that user is mocking and mentioning anorexia
- it also shares things with phrases like grandcunt and has a dog using a COVID mask like a sanitary pad
- Alice is has like 95 percent control of her daughter and is responsible
- this is all accessible from information accessed from Alice directly

I'm taking a breather from this thread for a bit bc online information can really harm people. I've seen gaming and social media issues where people are all too comfortable playing the long game, especially with vulnerable children. A child who puts out a fake restraining order might need a higher order of care.
 
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Ametrine

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Ella has been brainwashed by her vindictive and volatile mother into carrying out acts of violence. I do hope that has been highlighted by Dr Dupee and the other professionals involved.
She's as much a victim as Elsie in my opinion.
I think because Ella is so tall, people forget she’s still so young (I also had the same issue growing up due to my height).

She was 10/11 when this all started, and she’s only 14 now.
 
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scantysandwich

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You all think you’re so funny don’t you?
I’m going to find out who you are*, each and every one of you twattle turds muhahahahaha

* three nights of research is all it will take

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Ally Pally

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Tone's media history has been cleared for a while.
He's a coward and a pathetic excuse of a man imo. He could easily have supported his sister without resorting to abusing a young woman or his ex bil. I really hope he's removed his tweets because he's ashamed of his behaviour. I'm guessing it's really because he's been told to by Alice because she's desperate to cover up her nasty campaign of abuse that he was heavily involved in.
 
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frobly-mobly

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If Dr Dupee and / or the GAL have been made aware of "Tone's" account and the content (and possibly the NZ wolf), would they have a responsibility to take action to investigate this further? Especially given the fact that the girls' "uncle" has posted some hideous content and directly tagged Ioan and Bianca, and knowing the oldest daughter is also on X. Similarly, someone from NZ posting images of an under age girl, who filed for a DVRO against her father, would raise red flags everywhere.

I would imagine that as a concerned and caring parent, Ioan would have raised this with Dr Dupee as well as his attorneys. I thought maybe Ioan would leave the investigation into those accounts until the custody issues were resolved, but now that the GAL and Dupee are involved, and he raised concerns in court that his daughters were being abused by their mother, maybe this has now been brought forward?

I would really like to see all of these dubious SM accounts like "Tone" exposed and held to account almost as much as I want to see the Abuser face serious consequences for her heinous actions.
 
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Bridgeofsighs

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what turned Alice into Alice? We know her mother had mental health issues and father was distant.
We don't know and can only speculate. We don't know her mum had mh issues as AFE was socking on reddit hinting that her mum was a narc but then saying how they were besties too. Nothing she says is trustworthy especially as it's usually projection. We don't know her dad was distant either. Welp discovered he didn't cut off the 2 brothers just AFE, for good reason imo.

I have no sympathy for AFE either and will never. She fucks up everything she touches from handbags to children to other's people's mental health, money and careers. Fuck her. She also doesn't want to change/improve. There's ample evidence of that.
 
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Ally Pally

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Agree. Don't shoot the messenger. We didn't abuse Ella despite what AFE thinks, she did. She will always deflect. That's her MO. I could give a hundred examples of that but 2 will do. A good mother would explain to kids that they can't go through airport security hand in hand as there are rules. Instead AFE lets them do it and then does a public post about how evil TSA staff are to 2 little girls. And this lovely one from the court doc. AFE is trying to paint IG as a bad dad who wounded his kid in some way because he wouldn't pick her up from the home of his abuser and wanted Gloria to do it.

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I'd like to see her in handcuffs being brought into police custody. That might take the stupid trout pout of her face.
The coercive control surely would have been picked up by Dr Dupee who would have read those court transcripts?
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the worst time to leave (TM) is believed to be between 6 and 12 years old, because the older you are the more you are used to a certain stability (though tbh this case should have been easier, given that Ioan was working so much abroad anyway), so very small kids are not badly affected (this of course can differ, 4 year olds can also be old enough to feel a stability and have enough memories etc) but you are not old/mature enough to understand the dynamics of a seperation, and even if you then years later become theoretically old enough for that (and this has been partially the case with Ella, otherwise she wouldnt have came up with the lame insult of "mom should have left you" last year) your impression you gathered from that young age will remain rather than a more mature reflection taking place.

So in a sense he did chose the worst possible moment, also with Covid and stuff in the mix, but there is never a best moment when leaving an abusive relationship.

edit: a piece on that matter https://www.healthline.com/health/parenting/effects-of-divorce-on-children
I think it would have been worse for those girls if he'd stayed, it's clear he was subjected to verbal abuse in front of those girls and being present all the time via covid he'd have been a basket case by then. The atmosphere would have been toxic for the girls by the point he fled with the clothes on his back Moo!
 
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Whodofthunk

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1. Use your spouse's overpayment to buy Ozempic.
2. What are filters, and how to use them
3. Using scarves and horse blankets to hide your figure in public.
4. Socking online to keep your mind off of eating.

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I think Ioan would be glad if she used some overpayment for Ozempic if she felt better, got out of house, would find someone else and leave him alone. Unfortunately, Ozempic can't help you loose your personality.
 
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Loveu2

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Is this the best they've got? We aren't actively supporting a woman who is an abuser, liar, con man, playground bully, unemployed, cheating nobody. So, there's that. Just a sorry circle of bitter lonely women who are getting nothing by support of a total loser. Law enforcement knows who they are by the sounds of Tone's whining. I'm here for it.

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sweetnessfollows

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Sure, Ella is being groomed - I know that and if IG was dead (AFE acts like he is) then I would see her as nothing but a victim. However, he's not so that's the parent I would favour and want to live with. Abuse can't be normalised and that includes abuse from 14 yo too though they have more mitigating factors. I just heard of a 14 yo (a girl) who threw a chair at a teacher in school and physically hurt her. Now the kid has a dysfunctional background obviously, but they were taking about expelling her, but didn't. (I would have). There's consequences even at 14. That's the way society works.
I think it's important to really read that first sentence and think about how Alice has not protected her oldest daughter in any meaningful way. It was two years ago that there was all the craziness of the hacking of Ioan's instagram and it seems like there were other kids and/or adults that were commenting on it until control was regained. When the video of Ella was released of her fake RO and circulated on twitter, it's part of a discord thingy of others who may or may not be kids but it may also be adults. It had the Ella pissed herself thing on it. Now, maybe it's a joke but wtf is that?

Who are the people that the daughter is interacting with and do you really think that Alice has vetted them? Do you think they are as quality as Lupine or strange non-family people who are pretending to be grandparents? She has pubic social media profiles for reasons that make no gd sense to me, especially in a case this high profile.

Alice already has started to put chatter online about how her daughter will soon be able to drive.

Strangers know this - meaning thousands of strangers know it. Not on tattle, from Alice. My heart breaks for the kids that they are allowed to be online for anything beyond school, unsupervised, with pictures of them as children, for anyone to see.
 
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M33L4

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Sorry for the dirty deletes but she’s a mentally unwell old lady and I’m going back to ignoring her. It’s only right.
Actually, me too.
It’s for the best.
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Before she wanks herself into a frenzy at my wedding pics…
 
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M33L4

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I’m not sure about the Reddit stuff. I’ve seen ex tattlers try and stir over there by outright lying about Tattlers and how things panned out on here.
For the record, this is a gossip site. You don’t have to prove your credentials, I take people at face value. If someone wants to educate or inform me of something then I’m happy with that. They don’t need to show me their CV.
However, I can’t recall seeing anything about Tone like whats been posted. I also didn’t see Craig’s family being threatened. Does that mean it didn’t happen?
I mean Tony is deranged and angry. Who knows what he gets up to in DM’s when we’ve seen him publicly harass people. Myself included. I could take him though.
 
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