But everyone hates an abuser and enabler.
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Can you imagine the explosion in BH if it were?
But everyone hates an abuser and enabler.
Can you imagine the explosion in BH if it were?
It's not just humiliating, worse than that it's abandonment and betrayal, and that Elle didn't even seem to react shows that she's used to it. Alice abandons and betrays her children again and again and again, and in doing so, she is teaching them to betray and abandon themselves, that the only way to get any kind of love, acceptance, attention from her is to abandon themselves and their own needs and wants and fully cater to Alice, to be exactly what she wants them to be at all times. Kids have a deep, psychological, primal need for their mother, and for a mother who loves them. It's very unlikely that even at 14 Ella could stand back and coolly rationalise that Ioan is the better parent, the parent who loves them unconditionally. A big part of a narc's abuse and weaponry is to keep their victims in a state of constant turmoil and confusion, constantly doubting and questioning yourself, you feel like you're on quicksand, terrified to make a move in case it's the wrong one, and the narc always keeps moving the goalposts so you never know what's going to set them off. You learn to distrust yourself, to sacrifice yourself, to abandon your needs, you live to keep the narc happy to try and keep yourself safe. It's a very different thing to look at their situation as adults, from afar, with the experience and maturity of adulthood, and wonder what would I do, how would I react. Ella doesn't have the luxury to stand back and look at her situation clearly and calmly, to rationalise who the safer parent is, let alone have the emotional and mental intelligence and maturity to do so.Yes I think I would notice being left alone in a court with no lawyer and a made up case against my dad and his gf even at 14. It was humiliating and Ella's body language when she was papped outside the court (thanks Mommy Dearest) showed that.
Judge: I don’t think you accuse her of purposely slamming; is that right? Is that fair?”
Ella: “Yeah, I’m not saying that she did. I don’t know myself.”
The whole case fell apart in a second. Just going over the transcript, AFE and her soldier were woefully ill prepared. I think that's what the hearings will be like. AFE constantly interrupting and then running off if a hard question is asked. It will be a shit show. Good job she has such a great lawyer like Bernal to carry the can for her.
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Yeah but she might notice the fun stuff that's on BW's timeline. If I was 14 I would want to go to a bowling alley, Joshua Tree, maybe even meet Uncle Alun etc. I know kids are addicted to phones but staying in looking at a screen all day gets boring eventually. AFE does nothing except sock, visit the supermarket and moan about the 'bogan' and the 'dead beat dad'. That's boring.
Same! Both with the singing and the blaming you all!I'm now singing Kate Bush. I blame you all
Clearly our new fan club love us. The lady doth protest too much and all that. Can't stop posting about us!
She copied them but added her own unique twist and turned the outfits into a freak show. It's what she does with "her" personality and her life.Alice's Pinterest is telling on her. Individual, quirky style my ass. Looks like all she ever did was copy other people.
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I don't know what's more disturbing - the fact that these exist tbw, created by some hellspawn that isn't Alice, or that Alice looked at them and thought "Cute! I'll get me some of that."
I liked a pair of her shoes....I like those blue chairs with the gold legs? Mind you, I like the handbag with the ants all over it, so I'm obviously not one to trust when it comes to good taste!
Me tooFascinating. I wonder how many people here are now re-assessing their childhood/teens because of your post.. I know I am. Thank you.
Always suspected Kate B was …. “Off”… Could never warm to her. Gives me narc energy.Speaking of celebrities (almost said "other celebrities" but Alice isn't even a celebrity? She's a celebrity's ex wife?) who give off similar vibes to Alice... Kate Beckinsale, anyone else feel some similarities in her recent posts?
I have loved Kate B. for awhile, but I'm realizing my following of the two is identical. Loved Ioan in Hornblower, started following his wife for content of him, found out she was zany in a way that entertained me (Don't come at me okay). Loved Michael Sheen and found his daughter's mother and stayed for the zany content as well.
For awhile, but in recent posts especially she's been kinda going more crazy than normal. Like interacting with fan hate comments in her stories, posting difficult to comprehend rants in feed posts, etc. Also also, her daughter is over 18 but I felt like she was sexualizing her in a way that's weird for a mom to do? Like there's that whole interview from awhile back where they'll text each other Michael Sheen's nude scenes from films as a joke (it's her dad??)
Anyways I really feel like Alice is trying so hard to mimic Kate B's style, from quirky bow outfits to zany sm posts to make your kid a model, but it's obviously not working for her at all.
Thirty of those views are her own sock accounts. Loser.
It’s the godawful hair for me. A decent hairdresser could drag her into 2024 and take years off her. It’s just so, SO ugly and dated. I know she has very thin hair but that doesn’t mean it can’t still look great. She does herself no favours whatsoever.It baffles me how bad her sense of style is. How can anyone get to her age and not have at least some idea of what suits them?!! And being in the acting and modelling worlds, she'll have had more opportunities than most to learn what looks good.
I think Alice is such a narc and so convinced that her style is best that she was never willing to learn, never even thought she needed to learn about style, fashion and what suits her body type and face. In other people I would admire her confidence and determination to wear what she likes and what makes her happy regardless of what anyone else says, especially in that world of celebrity with best/worst dressed lists and every Jo Blow having an opinion of you. But with Alice it always comes back to her personality and the fact that she bullies people for their looks and style.It baffles me how bad her sense of style is. How can anyone get to her age and not have at least some idea of what suits them?!! And being in the acting and modelling worlds, she'll have had more opportunities than most to learn what looks good.
This is really fucking terrifying. This is a 14 year old child and that's the kind of person she is looking too for acceptance, validation, approval, friendship. Her self-esteem is in the gutter and it seems likely she is already a walking target for every kind of predator out there.well, that's why she uses other families to cover that (my parents did the same, except they did that because they were working every day). Elsie has done various trips within California (one time it was even prioritised over visitation with her dad) and we have seen videos of Ella bowling with other girls.
I went last week on her tiktok and noticed that the user she interacts most with is someone with a errr pretty explicit username that has called her an "annoying stupid anorexic ass" (I get sometimes it's jokes, but...) - I obviously don't know if her online friends are also her real life friends, but online friends are in those situations pretty dangerous because they tend (not all, obviously) to give "advice" that is to their entertainments benefit because they are simply too far away to be impacted by the consequences of any action they are encouraging. I can well imagine that those freaks on Ella's discord chat are exactly these kind of "friends" (and I put this in quotation marks by intention because from my experience in moderating discord servers those little friend circles are usually pretty toxic and all about being cool enough to belong there, which given the above quoted comment and the DM group name methinks is also the case here)
BIB - That's exactly what I'm thinking. Regular visits to the hairdresser would help with that so much.It’s the godawful hair for me. A decent hairdresser could drag her into 2024 and take years off her. It’s just so, SO ugly and dated. I know she has very thin hair but that doesn’t mean it can’t still look great. She does herself no favours whatsoever.
I'm starting to think that she has big patches of hair missing!It’s the godawful hair for me. A decent hairdresser could drag her into 2024 and take years off her. It’s just so, SO ugly and dated. I know she has very thin hair but that doesn’t mean it can’t still look great. She does herself no favours whatsoever.
I'm probably projecting what I want to see on the situation, but it's nice to see Ioan looking relaxed and genuinely happy. At the same time, it saddens me to think that the two girls are missing out on fun times with their father.
As B.B. King sang, "Nobody loves me but my mother, and she could be jivin' too"
It's conditional. That's the problem. "My babies can support me or they can fuck off" is proof of that.On some level Ella knows her mother doesn't love her.
Yes for the parents to read. We won't see it.Will the report have been released?
This is why the US system is so shit as I have said many times. In the UK, Children's Services would have made the decision for her as a Social Worker would have done a parenting assessment on both parents. For free too. AFE would fail it and IG wouldn't. This would have happened in 2021 before things got as bad as they are now. The kids would live with IG and Ella might go into foster care/residential home if that wasn't acceptable to her. The parent deemed unsuitable doesn't get to have the kid live with them just because they run away. AFE would lose her parental rights in court and the Local authority is given parental rights instead. That's how it works and I work in this area.Ella doesn't have the luxury to stand back and look at her situation clearly and calmly, to rationalise who the safer parent is, let alone have the emotional and mental intelligence and maturity to do so.
The thing I don’t like about Alice’s “style” are those gigantic square glasses that are too large for her face and the wrong shape. That with the harsh makeup that ages her and the severe hair style as well. Even worse is how she absolutely loves how she looks and is incredibly vain and arrogant. I wouldn’t care about her style either if she was kind and loving to her family.I think Alice is such a narc and so convinced that her style is best that she was never willing to learn, never even thought she needed to learn about style, fashion and what suits her body type and face. In other people I would admire her confidence and determination to wear what she likes and what makes her happy regardless of what anyone else says, especially in that world of celebrity with best/worst dressed lists and every Jo Blow having an opinion of you. But with Alice it always comes back to her personality and the fact that she bullies people for their looks and style.
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This is really fucking terrifying. This is a 14 year old child and that's the kind of person she is looking too for acceptance, validation, approval, friendship. Her self-esteem is in the gutter and it seems likely she is already a walking target for every kind of predator out there.
We don't know and can only speculate. We don't know her mum had mh issues as AFE was socking on reddit hinting that her mum was a narc but then saying how they were besties too. Nothing she says is trustworthy especially as it's usually projection. We don't know her dad was distant either. Welp discovered he didn't cut off the 2 brothers just AFE, for good reason imo.what turned Alice into Alice? We know her mother had mental health issues and father was distant.
It's so sad and frustrating that this isn't what happened with Ella and Elsie. I've felt from the beginning that Alice should lose all custody and only have supervised visitation with them, but now I'm feeling like it might be best for the girls to have an extended period completely away from Alice with no contact what so ever to try and deprogram them from her poison. I know a lot of people would disagree but I honestly believe that sometimes it's better to have no parent than to have an abusive one.This is why the US system is so shit as I have said many times. In the UK, Children's Services would have made the decision for her as a Social Worker would have done a parenting assessment on both parents. For free too. AFE would fail it and IG wouldn't. This would have happened in 2021 before things got as bad as they are now. The kids would live with IG and Ella might go into foster care/residential home if that wasn't acceptable to her. The parent deemed unsuitable doesn't get to have the kid live with them just because they run away. AFE would lose her parental rights in court and the Local authority is given parental rights instead. That's how it works and I work in this area.
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