I think you’re right but I also think he knew that in reality he was probably communicating with Alice via Ella’s phone - either Alice sending the messages or coaching Ella and looking over her shoulder. That’s why the ‘I love you’s were verbal - when he spoke to the children when they were with Gloria and these messages were carefully (if clumsily) worded.
Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #121 She's just the bargain basement Meghan Markle
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My take being it was done to add gravitas to her performative BS.
Look at poor me, look how horrified I am at all his lies, I haven't even thought to use my usual filters. The shaky hands were a nice touch.
All designed to get as much sympathy as possible & also distract from the fact that many have now read about her abuse of the girls.
The fact she even lied about only just receiving the papers shows just how calculating she can be.
Alice is a devious manipulative witch who does nothing without a reason.
@TipsyLaLa!
Definitely not a blow job! Would you go down on a man that spoke like a thesaurus? … I’m coming, forthcoming, impending, no advancing!
Thanks, I needed the "INCOMING!"
Making me even more convinced that screenshot is the middle of a convo that Alice just cut and pasted.
BIB - Ioan & the girls should be so lucky!Ffs Alice. You apparently lack the ability to remain silent even if you have the right.
She's commenting to everyone right now. If a judge could throw her in jail for every comment, like andat this point she would spend the rest of her life there.
Without a time/date stamp and the rest of those messages we don’t really know what Ioan said or what lead to that conversation. He may have said “I love you and miss you”. He did not say she was “tedious” or a “witch” because Alice would have posted that part.
As far as we know there was to be zero contact at the behest of the kids. To then ask for what we thought was $$$’s concert ticket would be a no from me. I would want to teach my children consequences, especially after the stealing of $400 and the Instagram hacking which I’m sure was enabled by Alice. As a pre-teen they need to be aware that they become criminally liable eventually too.
That’s not to say I would have her arrested or anything, this is a kid acting out in a difficult situation.
I am fully sympathetic to that but it doesn’t excuse the behaviour.
As far as we know there was to be zero contact at the behest of the kids. To then ask for what we thought was $$$’s concert ticket would be a no from me. I would want to teach my children consequences, especially after the stealing of $400 and the Instagram hacking which I’m sure was enabled by Alice. As a pre-teen they need to be aware that they become criminally liable eventually too.
That’s not to say I would have her arrested or anything, this is a kid acting out in a difficult situation.
I am fully sympathetic to that but it doesn’t excuse the behaviour.
thank you for sharing that version... the song always deeply touches something within me.
Showing my age, but the original by Simon & Garfunkel is, of course, my favorite.
Garfunkel once said the song is about "the inability of people to communicate with each other, not particularly intentionally but especially emotionally, so what you see around you are people unable to love each other."
to keep on topic - Alice has poor communication skills.
You couldn't be more welcome my love 
I always knew the original was beautiful, but only when I saw this version did I look into the lyrics (I'm 37, it took me time!). What an incredibly beautiful peace of writing. And I do agree, original is the best xxx
I always knew the original was beautiful, but only when I saw this version did I look into the lyrics (I'm 37, it took me time!). What an incredibly beautiful peace of writing. And I do agree, original is the best xxx
She will live off the kids' child support. That's another reason she doesn't want to give IG any custody. There is no way in hell she's getting a job. She's made that very clear!
And when the youngest is 18 it's back to Brizzle to live off the dole for 5 years and then get a state pension at 67. Remember how excited she got when someone falsely told her she could get UK child benefits in the US?
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Absolutely it is.
The thoughtless FMs that invade the threads to attack Ioan and Bianca without taking the time to read the Wiki or court documents and generally offer absolutely nothing of substance to add to the conversation?
Alice thought Ioan asking the kids to have manners was child abuse. I’m sure it’s in the original documents of the TRO.
I think Chrissy is still getting over the terrible night she had with Alice, when she realized she couldn’t get a word in …
They must have scurried off to the DM comments.The thoughtless FMs that invade the threads to attack Ioan and Bianca without taking the time to read the Wiki or court documents and generally offer absolutely nothing of substance to add to the conversation?
Yes, one this is certain: we know that that message is absolutely the worst thing he has sent, because Alice would not hesitate to publish anything she thought was even slightly out of order from him. So that message is literally the worst thing she has on him. and I know I was a bit scathing about it, but if that the worst she’s got then Ioan is probably going to do fairly well in the custody case.
Yes, believing a child should say thank you is tantamount to a parent being abusive and having an inappropriate relationship with one's mother.
Ahem.
Now this we can agree on.
If you're not familiar with this song by them, I'm hoping you will listen. My younger one is your age.You couldn't be more welcome my love
I always knew the original was beautiful, but only when I saw this version did I look into the lyrics (I'm 37, it took me time!). What an incredibly beautiful peace of writing. And I do agree, original is the best xxx
Bridge Over Troubled Water
Simon & Garfunkel
When you're weary
Feeling small
When tears are in your eyes
I'll dry them all
I'm on your side
Oh, when times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part
Oh, when darkness comes
And pain is all around
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Sail on silver girl
Sail on by
Your time has come to shine
All your dreams are on their way
See how they shine
Oh, if you need a friend
I'm sailing right behind
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will ease your mind
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will ease your mind
@IHateHadargoyle - where's your lovely Corgi avatar? 
I know the general consensus is she's fucked herself with her continuing barrage of SM bile but she's faced zero repercussions for months spent pissing all over the TRO, abusing Ioan, incl' by proxy, accusing everyone in the CA legal system of being corrupt & in Ioan's pocket, etc.
Where are the fines? The jail time? As it stands right now the TRO isn't worth the bleeping paper it's printed on. Ioan is still being abused.
I can't see a PRO making any difference now. This is Alice we're talking about.
I would love to be proved wrong but feel nothing but despair right now.
I know the general consensus is she's fucked herself with her continuing barrage of SM bile but she's faced zero repercussions for months spent pissing all over the TRO, abusing Ioan, incl' by proxy, accusing everyone in the CA legal system of being corrupt & in Ioan's pocket, etc.
Where are the fines? The jail time? As it stands right now the TRO isn't worth the bleeping paper it's printed on. Ioan is still being abused.
I can't see a PRO making any difference now. This is Alice we're talking about.
I would love to be proved wrong but feel nothing but despair right now.
I just had one on my Spotify that couldn’t be more apt …
just come on my iTunes ha
@kingseven please add ‘Bed Bound’ by Margarita Helene
I am! When I went to a new school for lower sixth form (16 - 17 years) our headmaster played this in assembly. He spoke about a love he had when he was younger and how this song always made him think of her. I will NEVER forget that day. Also I'm a pianist, so completely appreciate the gorgeous build up
Can you be my Momma?
Can you be my Momma?
All I can say is Alice is a stone cold abomination!!
I am genuinely concerned for Ioans welfare. I am really getting ‘ if I can’t have him then nobody can’ vibes from this whole thing.
I admit I was not always the biggest fan of Ioan (always despised Alice and never doubted she treated him terribly)) but seriously that poor man! I’m reading the custody application and I can not believe what I’m reading! How can a person be so evil!!
Ioan deserves a freaking medal!!
I am genuinely concerned for Ioans welfare. I am really getting ‘ if I can’t have him then nobody can’ vibes from this whole thing.
I admit I was not always the biggest fan of Ioan (always despised Alice and never doubted she treated him terribly)) but seriously that poor man! I’m reading the custody application and I can not believe what I’m reading! How can a person be so evil!!
Ioan deserves a freaking medal!!
They only have a time stamp above the first message in a chain then you need to drag the message to the side to see individual stamps. This is how mine look in this riveting exchange between me and my son
Edited to add -i think on Alice’s-the top has just been edited off so you can’t see the persons name and time stamp. Also my son is a grown up incase anyone thinks I’m like Alice and not taking care of him
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