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Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #110 I don't eat baby sheet stirrers
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I honestly think she has more regrets than she will ever let her pride admit, but she’s so stubborn she won’t back down
I honestly think the only regret Alice has is letting him shoot abroad for long periods
Alice saying she can't work because the girls need her at home and don't want her to work is her setting things up so in five or so years time she can shift the blame from Ioan onto them.
Would she have preferred less time with him in total, but more of that time spent with him at home, or a longer marriage where she didn't see him as much. Either way, the reason for her regret would just change.
Meanwhile him shooting abroad is possibly the only thing that kept the marriage going as long as it did because he had moments to breathe.
Would she have preferred less time with him in total, but more of that time spent with him at home, or a longer marriage where she didn't see him as much. Either way, the reason for her regret would just change.
BIB: There was a work reason for that. Elsie was born Sept. of 2013, at some point, Ioan got the part of Dr. Henry Morgan in FOREVER, which filmed in NYC. I don't know when filming began, but he was that last major part cast, so he probably left for NY soon after getting the part. So, Alice had the girls and a nanny & a housekeeper in LA (only lonely for him, not help). Also, the production company wanted Ioan to have a social media presence to help develop the FOREVER fan base. Since he's not interested in social media, he let Alice take charge of that on Twitter. He didn't want her having a Facebook page after what happened with The Ladies of the Forum, which led to Deb & Lin & the two other Administrators being in charge of the Ioan Gruffudd Fan group on FB.
She implies in another email to Ioan’s mother that there is something “wrong” with Ioan’s younger siblings who have never married. Alice is the most vile person I’ve ever come across. Those poor children have not a chance of a normal life if she keeps custody of them.The “it’s just a thought” shows her level of nastiness. She deliberately sows these defamatory and shocking seeds then doesn’t say any more or anything specific (because it’s bollocks, of course). She just wants people to think there’s something sinister going on with Ioan, which there clearly isn’t. The only sinister part of his life was (reluctantly it looks like) marrying Alice. Any man who was genuinely weirdly close to his mum wouldn’t leave home or marry for a start.
It’s a good thing she hasn’t discovered online gambling…yet!!
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Tomorrow is Monday. With Leon gone, I guess she doesn't have to fear those anymore? Ioan's lawyers probably won't be giving her regular calls every week?
Poor Anne has to email directly to Alice now I think. Or Katherine who must be under Anne
I can’t express enough how meaningful and necessary this was to hear. I’ve been goin’ thru it, on and off and on and off (that’s usually the way it goes in this home). It does get very discouraging, and Wales sometimes feels a billion miles away from me, but I needed this encouragement and this reminder to keep going, to keep believing, and, the hardest part, to leave despite whom I have to leave behind. 
I hate the reality of my situation, and many days I can’t stand my life. It sounds so, so ungrateful of me—I gross myself out admitting it—but I think trauma can have that sour impact, where everything you do and who you are feels tainted and ruined. I know I’m not the only person in here who knows this feeling, it’s hard to describe. Maybe you know exactly what I’m talking about, Barbie—feeling unable to separate your identity from the things that have terrified you or brought you down.
But in moments like these, from love like yours, I feel so much more capable of managing. I’m gonna sleep so warmly tonight thinking of this. I extend my highest love to you, and to anyone in here in need of it so that they, too, can have a good night’s sleep.
Thank you so, so much. PS, Ireland is on my list!!! I got some Irish in me, would love to explore those roots.
I hate the reality of my situation, and many days I can’t stand my life. It sounds so, so ungrateful of me—I gross myself out admitting it—but I think trauma can have that sour impact, where everything you do and who you are feels tainted and ruined. I know I’m not the only person in here who knows this feeling, it’s hard to describe. Maybe you know exactly what I’m talking about, Barbie—feeling unable to separate your identity from the things that have terrified you or brought you down.
But in moments like these, from love like yours, I feel so much more capable of managing. I’m gonna sleep so warmly tonight thinking of this. I extend my highest love to you, and to anyone in here in need of it so that they, too, can have a good night’s sleep.
Thank you so, so much.
PS, Ireland is on my list!!! I got some Irish in me, would love to explore those roots.fun fact about August 2nd: not only is it Alice's birthday it's technically also their wedding anniversary (legally at least)
Calling it - the gay therapist is Perez.
I‘ll show myself out.
Goodnight, dear Turds!
I‘ll show myself out.
Goodnight, dear Turds!The GFM was obviously set up to take away Monte Carlo press on B and I, she set it up just as she found out they were there. I hope this week that Anne and Katherine come down on Alice in whatever way they can
Do you think he had to get her permission to take an acting job? I doubt he had many offers in Hollywood, probably none really, going away to work was the only way to make money. Maybe she should regret not moving the family to Australia.
She is acting pro per, or on her own behalf (no lawyer). So anything his lawyers would have previously sent to her lawyer for their review and response will now go directly to her.
If she was getting regular emails or letters from his lawyers, there were reasons for that. Presumably her actions. Stop breaking the TRO, start complying with deadlines, fewer lawyer letters. Contrary to what she has said, lawyers don’t just sent letters regularly for the hell of it.
If she comes out of this without a dime to her name, it’s her own fault, and no one should pity her. She had choices, but she wanted to hurt Ioan and especially Bianca so badly she risked everything, and now she’s losing.
My sister had BPD and NPD. I loved her so much, but eventually had to grey rock her to protect myself. She could be terrifying.
I initially came here to Tattle because I recognized so much of what Alice was doing as behaviors I had to battle myself. I am highly tuned and especially sensitive to BPD behavior and know the "I'll do something to harm or demean you and then gaslight you when you hold me accountable, and then ultimately play victim and rally the troops to make you feel unsafe." routine well.
Been there, done that. I have the battle scars to prove it. We all have our own battle scars. I certainly hold space for and value all of yours.
I am not a diagnostician. I am a mere human who has lived through the wrath of dealing with someone with PDs who is prone to smear campaigns and intense emotional dysregulation. My sister would often dismiss her behavior after the fact as "I was just upset," much like Alice is doing now about her months long smear campaign against Ioan and Bianca.
"I was just having a bad moment" appears to be Alice's go to mantra when she has raged and defamed Ioan and Bianca yet again.
I have spent many years working with therapists to understand the trauma I endured dealing with a family member with PDs. No one gets a free pass for bad behavior. We all have issues. We all suffer. We all have trauma.
So I'm on the sometimes a bleep is just a bleep train. There's still plenty of room. Join us.
I initially came here to Tattle because I recognized so much of what Alice was doing as behaviors I had to battle myself. I am highly tuned and especially sensitive to BPD behavior and know the "I'll do something to harm or demean you and then gaslight you when you hold me accountable, and then ultimately play victim and rally the troops to make you feel unsafe." routine well.
Been there, done that. I have the battle scars to prove it. We all have our own battle scars. I certainly hold space for and value all of yours.
I am not a diagnostician. I am a mere human who has lived through the wrath of dealing with someone with PDs who is prone to smear campaigns and intense emotional dysregulation. My sister would often dismiss her behavior after the fact as "I was just upset," much like Alice is doing now about her months long smear campaign against Ioan and Bianca.
"I was just having a bad moment" appears to be Alice's go to mantra when she has raged and defamed Ioan and Bianca yet again.
I have spent many years working with therapists to understand the trauma I endured dealing with a family member with PDs. No one gets a free pass for bad behavior. We all have issues. We all suffer. We all have trauma.
So I'm on the sometimes a bleep is just a bleep train. There's still plenty of room. Join us.
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He didn't sign up for that!Good morning from LA.
Alice's shopping habit has come to light and one hopes the good folks donating money to the poor mom who refuses to work is held accountable for the GoFundMe shake down. I hate seeing people taken advantage of when so many good people are actually struggling and likely don't have bank accounts they choose not to touch. That's my opinion.
Also, that's definitely her eBay account and that top is most definitely the one she purchased. There is no amount of spin that will cover the fact she's shopping for herself right now, despite the broke girl narrative she's pitching.
I do wonder if financial abuse (coupled with the DA) was a factor in the demise of the marriage. She mentioned Ioan questioning her about what she was buying, and now it sheds a little light on why he'd be concerned. Just my thoughts.
I hope everyone is well.
Is she not going to hire a lawyer? It’s not a good idea to represent yourself. Of course Alice thinks she smarter than any lawyer the same way she thinks she’s smarter than any doctor.
According to one of those pages I linked last night, once he gets the PRO and 100% custody, she can get partial custody :
ONCE SHE'S DONE THE COURSES
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She said she was a few days away from hiring one in the June 11 response. Now she is saying she can’t afford one. It’s a civil matter, so a lawyer will not be appointed for her as would be done with a public defender in a criminal matter.Is she not going to hire a lawyer? It’s not a good idea to represent yourself. Of course Alice thinks she smarter than any lawyer the same way she thinks she’s smarter than any doctor.
Yes, it would make more sense for her to hire a qualified family law attorney. She is not obligated to be represented by counsel on Aug. 2, but it would be better for her if she was.
Once you have lost custody in the US, it is not always that easy to regain it. Yes, if he is awarded 100% custody she may have certain conditions set by the court that she would have to fulfill and then go back to court to petition for partial custody. It would take time, time for her to show she is able to be a responsible custodial parent and time to fulfill any court mandated treatment or obligations.
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