The PA has been going on full force since January 2021. The longer it goes on for the harder it is to undo and mAlice knows this which is why she said she wanted the divorce to take 3-4 years.
Yeah, good point, but she had the $$$ to get it altered. I guess it surprises me seeing how possessive she was of Ioan that she wasn't wearing her wedding ring.
I’m sure someone has said this before, but it bears repeating—Atomic bleep! Or, as Loopy would say, Cuntus Infinitus!!
@justwilliam I missed you and I'm so glad you are OK and back here again.BIB - agreed, it does go back a long way. I'm betting her jealousy kicked off with Ella & grew stronger over the years to Elsie (his lack of attention) she's jealous of the girls & how much Ioan loves them & (when they were together) how much attention he gave them as a doting dad & how much they loved him. They took his attention away from her & she always has to be front & centre & parenting would have been a competition to her (as everything is) & she would have to win that too hence she's the fun lax 'let them do what they want' parent (in her eyes) & Ioan is apparently abusive for driving carefully with them in the car not to mention wanting to instil good manners.
Ioan was young, naive, in love, she would have love bombed him & was def' the more dominant partner. From that cringe worthy interview he clearly had no inkling ofthat was just her being Alice! It can take a long time to realise what is normal/right & what is actually abuse when you're in love & trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. I have a feeling her mask seriously started to slip during her pregnancies.
I know for myself in one LT relationship I gave him the benefit of the doubt for way too long & should have dumped his pathetic arse a long time before I did & he wasn't abusive.
. I hope you are in a better headspace now. I feel for so many here who get triggered by these events. Whilst A and her actions anger me to see, I still don't take it on board too much. At the end of the day, she's just one of many spoilt , privileged white middle class women who somehow believe they have more entitlement than anyone else to have what they want without hard work, working to understand the world, the people in it, how things work and how their own actions impact themselves and others. if she listened to any of the ( copious) amounts of well meaning and sound advice she's been given over the years, she could still change. It would require, as many have said, huge amounts of honest self reflection, proper therapy, and for her to humble herself in the knowledge that's she's just the same as everyone else, human, fallible, subject to errors and failing and falling. Even now, if she was to demonstrably change, admit her horrible vendetta(s) and actions, and over a period of time show growth as a human and change for the better, then I would still maybe say, OK, I see change here,, maybe I'll buy your book ( lol) to support you. E.g. tbh I never paid much attention to Denise Van Outen until I heard her on the podcast recently with Fearne Cotton (Happy Place podcast, highly recommended). But I said here before, and will again now, her approach was the polar opposite to AE and I felt her sincerity.that "quote" from her " gay therapist " ( who btw I still think was some randomer who she met 3(0) sharp ones in, either online or out, who mentioned they were a therapist ( could have been a massage therapist now that I think about it) is just staggeringly narcissistic. it makes lol in a kind off " wtf " way, but alas I have 2 sisters who come out with this kind of tit all the time. ( the rest of the fam do kinda snigger behind their backs though at their fuckery). Never had a name for it til I came here. I'm ashamed to say I have a degree from a "top ass" college in Psychology, but tbh, life taught me more than that degree ever didWho can forget this gem?!
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I know this is a joke but it's the kind of thing any therapist treating her would be up against!
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I only wore mine until a month after I got wed. I don’t like rings and didn’t want a wedding or engagement ring. But OH insisted. He is not offended I don’t wear them, he wears his!
***ferociously snaps fingers at this comment, $100-something-thousand dollars in debt***life taught me more than that degree ever did
I think it's about two days of radio silence so far, another couple could be a stretch
It’s a worry. Alice flip flops how the girls feel every few days; some days they are happier than ever in their girls only house now evil Ioan’s gone, then she’s claiming they are terrified and broken he’s gone and she needs to be there - always - to make everything ok.
I’ve said this months ago, but you are honestly the kindest person I’ve ever come across online. I don’t contribute half as much as most of you (i read every post though!) but every time I see a kind, compassionate, thoughtful message I just know it’s you before I even look.@claudiarocks@KikiFromNy
@Life in the Shire
@tropeonarope
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all so much for your kind supportive & lovely messages, your caring words made me cry, (there's still a part of me from my childhood that makes me feel unworthy) your words touched me very much.Loads of love & hugs to you all,
xxx
When I began posting months ago I never dreamed that on these threads I would find an online family & that has been the sweetest surprise!
So many turds have been through way worse than I have yet remain so kind & compassionate, so many of you are inspirational.
It feels like I have known you all for much longer than it has been as we have been through a lot railing against the abuse & lies of AE, etc.
While I don't know any of you in RL that doesn't stop me from
I'm really sorry for my pity party the other day, it just got too much for me. @tropeonaropewas spot on. I've been raging since Alice deliberately sabotaged the PRO hearing & for her to then set up a GFM (after posting such vicious lies about Ioan & the timing) was the last straw when so many others around the world face genuine RL challenges. I didn't realise just how much rage I was internalising until after I stepped back last week & began to feel lighter in myself.
On a personal level I have much to be grateful for & even if it didn't seem that way I am grateful for the blessings I do have; a safe secure roof over my head, a nice flat & most importantly, some wonderful long term RL friends. Most are long distance, but one has moved & is now just 45 minutes away (as opposed to 2 1/2 hours) so we have seen much more of each other which is fab! But I am in touch with my friends often & with two we speak on the phone weekly & text daily.
I'm so grateful to a dear RL friend who has helped me out £ wise when I have been struggling. Two close friends told me in no uncertain terms to always ask but I had held off as it's an awful feeling but I have no family, my parents passed many years ago & I had to go NC with my only sibling years ago for my peace of mind. But it's swings & roundabouts isn't it, as when I had £ I was always happy to help out if a friend was in need.
Now that there's finally a reliable internet here I'm looking into some things I might be able to do online to try & make a little bit of extra money?
I've been doing a bit of catching up (but will start properly on #108 after I have done these posts) I hope I haven't missed anyone out?
I wish I could give you all a big squidgy hug (squidgy cos' I'm a fattie!) but only *if* you were into hugs of course, lol! I'm a hugger!
It's prob' one of the things I miss the most being single.
@claudiarocks - I do hope you're ok sweet lady? Please look after yourself & I hope your stepping back helps you as it did me & I look forward to seeing you back here when you're ready. You bring such light & humour to these threads with your wonderful SOH & it wouldn't be the same without you. Much love & hugs,
@ReturningthePearls - I hope you're okay lovely lady? I know you have had some especially dark days lately, but please take care of yourself, you're not alone, we're all here for you if you need a safe place to land & vent & (like dear Claudia) these threads wouldn't be the same without you!
Much love & hugs,
@Zippysays & @Caroline Of Brunswick - I am so sorry you both had to part with such precious mementoes when you were in dire need of money. But it speaks volumes about you both & puts Alice to shame. (Not that she feels any.) I'm just so sorry that life put you in such a heart breaking position. I send you both love & hugs,
@plinky2 - is that really you, lol!
I'm very glad to see you back, it's been a loooooong time!
@cherryjuice - I'm so sorry your little girl is so ill.I really hope all your efforts with the insurers (& your supporters) pays off. Literally.
It must be especially sickening to see Alice & her GFM. She wouldn't recognise genuine need if it witch slapped her hard in the face.
Sending best wishes & I hope your precious girls much needed meds get covered, one less thing for you to worry about & I hope you get your raise.Love & hugs,
@welshfitnessgirl - I'm so very sorry you never got any support after having to make such a difficult decision.
My love & hugs to you both,
@ZipSilver - I feel for you as I know what it's like to grow up with parents locked in an unhappy marriage but what you had to endure was a nightmare. I'm so sorry that all of your cries for help weren't listened to.
My love & hugs,
@Knitwit said:
Thank you. I am really proud, I had no idea I was so resourceful till I had to be and the really wonderful thing to come out of it all is that all my girls are all real grafters, they are determined to never be financially reliant on anyone
That's because you're a great role model!
It's a small world!
I was reminded of this when I got my flat after being homeless for 4 months. Years previously where I lived prior to being homeless I was
friendly with a lady (still am) whose neighbour & best friend I knew just to say "hello" to. FF years later & when I was being shown around where I live now I spotted a lady (this was when masks were mandatory everywhere) & thought "it can't be?" Yeah, it was the best friend (she recognised me too!) & even more funny to us both was me ending up living in the flat above her!
Sadly only for a year as she died not long before Christmas.#doggyheaven #ilovecanines #dogsarethebest
We're not in each others pockets but pop in for a natter/coffee & go to some of the stuff put on here together & one has been following this shitstorm & is Team #Ioan.
I'll return to lurking as I try to catch up properly on #108!
But I hope you’ll consider. It’s a sign of strength to let others uplift you when they want to. I feel a bit embarrassed posting this in case it falls flat but I’m going to anyway!I don't wear mine. My fingers often swell up slightly and its v painful to wear a ring. The Archduke bought me a silver ring that is 'wraparound' but adjustable so I wear that instead on whichever finger is least painful, often my middle finger as then it doesnt interfere with or get damaged by my scissors!
Not actively. Two different people.
Long time lurker on this thread. When my Dad left, my Mum did this. She is very similar to mAlice (hence my lurking here) and abused my Dad, although he would never admit to that. The only thing she achieved with that was traumatised children who can’t stand the sight of her as adults. My Dad may have missed out on our childhoods, but he’s got us for the rest of our lives. She’s got nothing. We also really wanted to see him, but wouldn’t have dared say that to her, him or the courts (the 90s, UK).
In the TRO she tells IG he has ruined their lives by leaving. A good mum would cushion the blow. She rubs their noses in it. I think AE is deliberately traumatising the kids so they trauma bond with her. Like the PA that seems to be successful, as the kids seem to have anxiety and to be very clingy with mAlice.
