Iain Lee and Katherine Boyle #2

[Charles the Furred]

Is it being suggested that it's possible someone read this thread, read my speculation, wrote that four page statement, pretended to be The Big G and emulated with perfect accuracy his professional legal writing style, thought processes and content plus added a load of facts that are not contained on this thread?

No. No it isn't. We are mostly on the same page. This has been a pointless back and forth. Who could or could not have written it has been utterly irrelevant since the minute it was confirmed beyond any doubt who did write it. So, fine, whatever you say, can we actually get back to talking about relevant things now?

Like the 180-odd followers on Gregorian's Twitter who haven't so much as liked his posts or replied to tell him he's talking horse manure. Most of them will be past or present TLNA fans, as he didn't use that account for much else. Did Iain deliberately block WOTT knowing he would cry about it and thus scare the acolytes into pretending the statement doesn't exist?

 

[SilverBells]

To be fair I do remember him not being a fan of hers before this.

Will be interested to see if he continues tweeting about Vardy now he knows the news rags will pick up on it. Might be thinking he'll get an interview on gmb or something.

 

[ohannie]

Absolutely loved Iain Lee, LOVED HIM. He was funny, super smart, wasn’t afraid to ask difficult questions in interviews. For years I watched his shows, listened to his radio shows. Loved it. He’s the same age as me, not on the same page politically but a great broadcaster.
Then he blocked me on Twitter. I was accused of hate speech. Why? He complained vociferously about being bullied. So I commented to a tweet he wrote where he referred to a certain MP as a ‘pr@ck”. So I simply said, calling someone an offensive name is bullying too Iain. Because it is. And for that I was blocked.
So, am I reading this right. If you’ve been bullied in the past, you get a free pass to bully anyone you like because you are you?

He usually seems to block people who say things like that only after having a quick look at their timeline to see if there's any reason not to. I wouldn't be so shocked that he did that, Tenzin

 

[SilverBells]

Finally thought I'd check out the new show... And he wasn't on.

 

[General Kim]

Welcome to our new members!

Tattle is free, just like the Rude Awakening on Jack FM with Iain (f)Lee!

No £1000 pizza party charges or bargainous £200 therapy sessions here. Not even the cost of two coffees a month!

Yes, a warm welcome to all new members!

More members is good, because we can get a bigger "group discount" on our Eyan Fee group counselling Zoom sessions.

I want a "package deal": top tier TLNA membership thrown in with my £200 counselling sessions.

Plus some merch, like a t-shirt with "Eyan Lee counselled me and now I'm cured", a Kaffbo shoulder bag with a life size Kaffbo fizzog embroidered on it and a weekly TikTok video message from a pedigree TLNA cat.

bargainous £200 therapy sessions

Not even the cost of two coffees a month!

"bargainous". Eyan should say that on his new website.

 

[ohannie]

WOPHD getting stuck in on Discord now after a long break... must be missing the toxic culture that he was so against not that long ago

 

[Gingerbread King]

This bit

So what's different about when it happens during an online show? I'd be genuinely interested to hear people's takes on that.

Expectation. They said they were about love, life, laughs, authenticity and inclusivity . A refuge for the lost and lonely. Big billing.

I do think the love and inclusivity thing was a promise they could never have kept. But surely it doesn't mean they're obliged to sit back and be nice when people ring up to attack them at their place of work? Again, there's been plenty of missteps, and people clamped down hard on who were coming from a good place, but if someone rings up to tell them they're shit and telling them what they should and shouldn't be doing, for them to sit back and go "Oh, right, I see, yes, thank you" is a very big ask, for both the audience who are enjoying it and Iain and Kath themselves.

 

[whybrows]

I wonder how many star struck Patreons will sign up?

I mean, if Louis Theroux started up a business where I could spend an hour alone with him, in his house, well.

I'd be skint!

 

[heejeebejee]

About Katherine Boyle: This is awful. Honestly.Proper nasty. Who isn’t feeling this?

I mean , I get that she enabled everything, but yes, this is awful . Excruciating. What an sbsoulute s*it he is…

Honestly, for f*ck sake.., come on… ? Seriously,

Here what’s done it. Not even going post the link it’s that haaaaaahmmmm … innit. Go look for ‘mid morning matters’ Thursday…

FFS. Nothing changes… dispite all the evidence, … EVER.

hurrrrrrrrrrrr

Edit: if he was her friend. If he actually gave a ffs… !
He wouldn’t have even posted it… let alone let it stay up. What an absolute dickhead!

 

[ohannie]

Apparently Iain said it wasn't bullying after the show? I don't watch 'Sleb' myself.

Probably because he could have been accused of bullying if he later seemed responsible for the press going after her for it, although they did at the time when they were both still on the show and he made comments while on there about how she was making him feel. He was offered money recently to appear on two documentaries about her and turned them down, which is surprising since he used to do anything for a couple of hundred quid and has been talking for over two years about how desperate for money he is.

 

[Pat Mustard]

W

Is this from The Wickerman lol?

Yes.
Fantastic film and the late Christopher Lee's favourite.
No chainsaws or monsters just an unsettling island.
I take it you've seen the original and not the godawful remake.
The Nick Cage version reminds me of the Comic Strip's parody when the heavy hand of Hollywood take on the miners strike event in the 80's.
The GLA piss take is another classic.

 

[thislifesucks]

Don’t think Gatford called him, a guy told Iain he wasn’t very good in a very strong way, even getting a swear word in. Alistair called in, Iain sang “birdhouse in your soul” over him, my favourite Alistair call so far, actually made me smile!
Overall, not too bad today!

 

[SilverBells]

He said the other day he was asked to do interviews and turned them down, which I'm surprised at since it would be far easier than grifting on Patreon.

Oh OK well fair play to him for that one then. Maybe I'm not cynical enough but in fairness I can't imagine he thought that tweet would get printed because... Why would it? Who cares.

 

[Pat Mustard]

Iain Lee, otherwise known as ‘the dic pic lowlife guy’ disses another local radio presenter.
Jog on Iain. Jog on.

Iain "Oh, do put it away!" Lee is totally unself aware.
He, like many BBC presenters, is narcissistic, entitled and spolit.
That is until he/they are fired and are left to fend for themselves in the commercial/real world.

Using Alex Belfield as a distraction from his own appalling behaviour is a safe move after sh1tting it with that Vardy woman.

I watched a tiny smug segment of his youtube video before the urge to repeatedly punch my screen nearly overtook.
How Iain "Careful! You'll have someones eye out with that!" Lee can sit in judgement over another oddball character I'll never know.
Now I'm not saying that Iain is on the same level as other infamous ex BBC radio presenters like Savile, Peel and more recently Westwood.
No.
They had much more successful and prolonged careers.
That was until their "unpleasantness", ( as the BBC euphemistically calls the seedy scandals that occured on their watch), became public knowledge.

 

[General Kim]

If I was looking for a counsellor who I felt like could relate to me due to certain experiences (which is understandable) I'd probably try to find one who had actually overcome their problems and had some advice to give and not, for example, someone who keeps falling off the wagon and seems to be stuck in a rut themselves. It doesn't sound good if your counsellor needs more counselling than you do.

It's exactly that.

What I'd like to know is: whatever association Eyan is a member of. Didn't they assess Eyan for suitability? It's clear as day to members of the public that Eyan shouldn't be a counsellor.

The association is as much to blame as Eyan. More so in many ways. The very people who decide who can help vulnerables have allowed a predator character to be accredited.

It's the association who is fully responsible for allowing Eyan to give the profession a bad name by giving him the "credibility" of being accredited.

I have to question the competence of the association Eyan is with as they failed to spot some deeply troubling and obvious personality disorders. How they thought Eyan is a "fit and proper" person to be a counsellor is truly staggering.

The problem is even before Eyan has started, he's already giving the profession a bad reputation. The vast majority of counsellors are genuine people and help people immensely. Money isn't their driving motivation. Taking advantage of vulnerables is the last thing they would ever do.

Then along comes Eyan.

Even with the most charitable interpretation of Eyan. I can't see a single redeeming feature that overwhelms all the negatives and is a price worth paying to allow Eyan to practice as a counsellor.

In essence, is there just one good point that makes up for all the serious bad points that should allow Eyan to influence vulnerables?

 

[thislifesucks]

Wish I hadn’t bothered looking. It’s a watchalong on Twitch. Great. I switched off.

 

[SquirrelWatch]

It's a wonderful summary.

Matty Stevo has Stockholm Syndrome. He thinks the rage and humiliation Eyan inflicts on him is a sign of love and appreciation.

Still beggars belief Eyan is a counsellor. Just looking at how he treated Matty is reason enough to form the opinion Eyan shouldn't be allowed anywhere near vulnerables.

One day I might detail what Eyan did to Kaffbo once.

As WOPHD stated: "The only reason Limmy is successful [and makes a load of money from Twitch] is because Limmy puts the hard work in, the "grind". Limmy prepares for his shows and is a regular streamer".

WOPD isn't wrong. But WOPHD forgets a couple of small things: Limmy has talent and people enjoy watching his streams. Neither of these things are true of Eyan and Kaffbo.

Eyan's talent has totally evaporated and his shows are dreadful and painful to watch.

What are the latest live view figures? 30?

Vast majority of the 480 Patreons are "piddy payments" because it's one big piddy party. Most are financially struggling.

But, as Kaffbo said to one seriously vulnerable who said he couldn't afford Patreon over living expense, but would never give up his Patreon, "You hang on in there".

I'd even say Eyan has gone backwards in terms of putting out content people want to watch. It's 'anti-content'. Eyan has entered the territory of 'negative talent'; that's how worse things have got.

He's dug himself a very deep hole. It's been a long slow sinking of the Titanic. It started from something like 18 months from before Eyan got the boot at TR and the decline continued and is still continuing.

And the misery he outputs managed to get a Twitch contract. He took Twitch for a right old ride. Eyan never had any intention of running a proper gig. I'd say from day 1 he was grifting.

Funny how Manc feminist champion Kaff "Maya Knew" Bo had no issue with the Hot Tub Hotties when they started on Twitch and were in contract.

As soon as out of contract (I think it started before their contract ended if I remember correctly) they slagged off Twitch something chronic for being a "porn" site.

I have to ask one simple question:

If Twitch is so disgusting because The Hot Tub Hotties are still on it offending Eyankaff and Twitch screwed Eyan over. Why do they still use Twitch??

As a sex addict, would Iain really be offended by Hot Tub Hotties?

 

[Ex TLNA fan]

And a racist to boot.
I shouldn't wonder.


His kids are going to grow up one day and see the pathetic excuse of man that he is.
As for "Far Right" that is just the other end of the Socialist horseshoe.
Hitler being a great admirer of the deeply racist Karl Marx , Mussolini as well, so much so he created the National Socialist Workers Party.
Socialists can't acknowledge that so shorten it to the compound word nazi.

As if Stalin's and Mao's death toll of 100 million corpses is a trifling matter.

Marx was also a firm believer in polygeny, don't you know.
All Socialists are scum.

That's something JOB would say...

 

[Gingerbread King]

if I remember rightly, Sunny and Shay took over his BBC WM show when he got let go from it, so there may be some resentment from that……

Oh really? Interesting... Clearly if that's why, then he followed his mantra and chose discomfort over resentment

 

[Charles the Furred]

@General Kim He tweeted the statement from RichEmers long after - and possibly as a direct result - we'd had that discussion.