Harry and Meghan #33 When Needy met Greedy

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Why is Megz obsessed with having messy bangs poking out of every. single. hairstyle???
Because she’s stuck in the 90s, where no matter what we did with our hair, we yoinked out two skinny side strings of hair to ‘frame our face’ and make us look fabulous (a bit of hair mascara was an added bonus)
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I think it’s not out of the ordinary to be honest. The same collages exist for Kate. And could be made for at least Sophie. I am undecided at this point if they all look at Diana’s looks and copy them with a modern twist or if this is bound to happen anyway with their kind of lifestyle and engagements.
Yes, I guess there are only so many styles & colours when you get photographed all the time. There is one photo of M though, in Africa, can't find it at the moment, in that white shirt with sunglasses, even in a similar pose to Diana, which I would argue was deliberate.
 
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Because Megz and Harry would have called their lawyers by Saturday lunchtime


Oh, yes I saw that story on the Dominic Lawson article in the mail.
Prince William is an aide de camp for the Queen and has some gold braid on his uniform.
Harry had a hissy fit that he wasn’t one, so was given the same »honour » a few months later.
Honestly he is a spoilt brat.

Even basic things like he is allowed to have a beard when he is uniform.
it’s normally against the rules in the military, and he looks scruffy; whereas William looks <swoon> in uniform.

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BIB is not entirely true. The Navy and Air Force allow full beards. The Army differs in that you are only allowed a beard if you are Special Forces away from your base. Top lip slugs are allowed in the junior services. The Navy does not allow such ghastly things.
 
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The photo shows her outside appearance vs the demon that lives on the inside, enjoying causing other people pain and hurt.

Hi everyone! I’m a very long time lurker! Normally everything has been posted by the time I read so I just play catch up. I’m not sure if this has been posted (I don’t think so) but I just saw this on twitter...
They really have unleashed the Beast with this book. Anyone who ever took a photo of Meghan when she arranged it can now come forward and make a pretty penny selling their story - in addition to the money they were paid to take the photo in the first place or any royalties they received! 😂😂 I cannot see how they would ever win their Court case. I suspect Meghan thought that the Daily Mail would just roll over and die and that the case would have been finished with before the book was published. How naive!
 
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They are a pair of scruffy twats.
His hair looks unwashed and unkempt at the best of times, and she can’t be arsed either, scraggly hair and ill fitting clothes. Both of them spotted at important events, wearing battered shoes.

I am baffled at why MM could not have at least had a go at being part of the RF, at least for a few years. At least she could have tried to win a few people over by then.
As soon as the baby was born, she was off. No way H was not going to give in to her demands to leave, and allow her to return to the US with his child - he had to go with her.
Is this the best they could come up with, to justify their behaviour? William referring to her as a “girl”, during a private conversation with his own brother - and Catherine not doing enough for MM, just sending flowers and not being at their beck and call

The strangeness of her relationship with her father is deeply suspect. H never met him, would not have been difficult to visit him, he is her father after all. No sign of any awful behaviour from him before a few papped pics. Why did she decide that she had no family life, and that her father was so awful?
She had no intention of having him at her wedding.

The timeline of their relationship does not add up. They have come up with so many different versions of the dates they met / dated / became engaged, etc.

Not many folk are buying into their accusations against the royal family, that they have been unfairly treated, cast aside etc. It just comes across as ridiculous, entitled and manipulative.
 
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The strangeness of her relationship with her father is deeply suspect. H never met him, would not have been difficult to visit him, he is her father after all. No sign of any awful behaviour from him before a few papped pics. Why did she decide that she had no family life, and that her father was so awful?
She had no intention of having him at her wedding.

The timeline of their relationship does not add up. They have come up with so many different versions of the dates they met / dated / became engaged, etc.

Not many folk are buying into their accusations against the royal family, that they have been unfairly treated, cast aside etc. It just comes across as ridiculous, entitled and manipulative.
I don't buy the ill treatment by the royal family. Of course there are issues within every family but I'm pretty sure it's not the kind that would warrant this kind of behaviour. Even worse is her treatment of her father. I get that there may be things that we do not know about, but what has so far been reported looks a log like gaslighting to me. I think she was more concerned with giving the impression that he was invited, but did not really care if he showed up or not. Or alternately that he would only show up to walk her down the altar dressed in the gear that she had bought for him and make sure she looked good. But not enough to go and see him before the engagement and present her future husband to him and include him in any meaningful way. I'm not surprised that he was confused and stressed :( It must feel even worse to find out now that they were advised by people around him to offer him help much earlier, but chose not to.
 
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I don't buy the ill treatment by the royal family. Of course there are issues within every family but I'm pretty sure it's not the kind that would warrant this kind of behaviour. Even worse is her treatment of her father. I get that there may be things that we do not know about, but what has so far been reported looks a log like gaslighting to me. I think she was more concerned with giving the impression that he was invited, but did not really care if he showed up or not. Or alternately that he would only show up to walk her down the altar dressed in the gear that she had bought for him and make sure she looked good. But not enough to go and see him before the engagement and present her future husband to him and include him in any meaningful way. I'm not surprised that he was confused and stressed :( It must feel even worse to find out now that they were advised by people around him to offer him help much earlier, but chose not to.
At the moment, the extracts haven't given a single example of the RF ill-treating them. We've just been told that the Harkles resented being told that Prince Charles and Prince William's work came before theirs in the pecking order. The other 'ill treatment' is that they weren't allowed to move into Windsor Castle (!!) and set up their own court (!!!!!)

I don't know what happened in the pre-publication negotations between the RF and Harper Collins but I'm starting to think quite a bit was snipped out.
 
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Oh for the love of that heart racing cross examination to actually take place......le sigh. One can but dream
If I was MM I’d have A - Not sued at all and

B - If I had sued I’d have withdrawn claim ages ago!

Easy to withdraw - pay some of defendants’ fees and say need to focus on ‘humanitarian work’ 🙄?! - and Archie and potential hearing a distraction from a deeply important time in her life

She’ll be eviscerated in cross exam. Depp/ Heard will be a mild breeze compared to the tornado that a full hearing would bring.

The Mail has a credible defence and probably a lot of evidence they have not yet shared. The Finding Fishcakes book, Scobie’s deleted tweet , paparazzi tweet re ‘magically’ being in right spot to take pics give more cross exam material. And that’s just the stuff already known and out there.

I think MM has risked / staked her public reputation - this side of the pond and that side of the pond on a foolish claim. It ain’t going to be pretty .....
 
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Putting it all tog via HM & other forums my belief is Megs met Haz at an Invictus dinner held in ex bf Corey Vitiello’s restaurant in Toronto May 2016. Relationship with Corey was coming to an end .. Suits role finishing & about to lose apartment paid for by Suits & she was heading for age 40 with no work prospects. Between May -July I suspect she set up a rapport by text messaging.. arranged to be in London for the couple of days H would be there in July & swept him off his feet with all her talk of philanthropy /humanitarian /environmental activist. Narcissists excell @ moulding themselves into the type of person the target would admire. Her UN ambassador role was purely to promote her career. Remember the convention she left 2 days early... H called & she ran! I also think HM is correct stating that after Christmas 2016 the relationship was on the rocks then she turned up unannounced to the wedding of H friend in Jamaica Feb 2017. H looked very indifferent to her in many photos but by the f/w day they were frolicking in the sea ! By July 2017 she’d “given up her whole life” to move to London. She made sure the only member of her family H met was her mother .. ie the most respectable. She only wanted Thomas at the wedding for the optics .. she couldn’t care less about his health. Hence she was frantic when she realised he wasn’t coming. I think the final straw for Thomas was being told he was not permitted to make a speech. I believe she was pregnant but she was definitely hiding something by using her own medical team .. the secrecy around the birth .. when did she ever miss a photo op ?? Unless maybe she knew she’d never be able to look as good as Kate on the steps of the hospital. I don’t believe she ever intended to live in the UK. I think they deserve one another ! The only good thing to come out of the pandemic is it’s stopped her in her tracks. Finally although I think she has treated the RF & esp HM appallingly weirdly a small part of me kind of admires her sheer brass neck in taking them all on!
 
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If I was MM I’d have A - Not sued at all and

B - If I had sued I’d have withdrawn claim ages ago!

Easy to withdraw - pay some of defendants’ fees and say need to focus on ‘humanitarian work’ 🙄?! - and Archie and potential hearing a distraction from a deeply important time in her life

She’ll be eviscerated in cross exam. Depp/ Heard will be a mild breeze compared to the tornado that a full hearing would bring.

The Mail has a credible defence and probably a lot of evidence they have not yet shared. The Finding Fishcakes book, Scobie’s deleted tweet , paparazzi tweet re ‘magically’ being in right spot to take pics give more cross exam material. And that’s just the stuff already known and out there.

I think MM has risked / staked her public reputation - this side of the pond and that side of the pond on a foolish claim. It ain’t going to be pretty .....
Don't build it up too much, I'm going to be so disappointed when she settles. : - )
 
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I don't think this is all down to her, I think Harry is the driving force behind a lot of it - he is no victim.
He is paranoid about press intrusion - I would like to think Meghan would have enjoyed sharing some baby pics but he wanted to punish the press and the public, both whom he despises.
I can't stand her but him even less so and I agree with the many who think he is an entitled, arrogant git. I'm so glad the Queen took all the military stuff off him as that's the only thing he was really bothered about.
Am getting worked up now so better stop and go and cool off :mad:
 
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At the moment, the extracts haven't given a single example of the RF ill-treating them. We've just been told that the Harkles resented being told that Prince Charles and Prince William's work came before theirs in the pecking order. The other 'ill treatment' is that they weren't allowed to move into Windsor Castle (!!) and set up their own court (!!!!!)

I don't know what happened in the pre-publication negotations between the RF and Harper Collins but I'm starting to think quite a bit was snipped out.
I've worked in an organization that is a close equivalent of the royal family and I do have to say that it can be mind-numbing and demoralizing precisely because of the hierarchy that kind of puts a damper on everything if the people at the top are unintelligent and set in their ways. If that is the case in the royal family is debatable, but Meghan and Harry were considered senior royals and had access to so much comforts. Lovely wedding, lots of love from the public, no money worries, beautiful home, the option to work as much or as little as they pleased and first and foremost... each other! The only thing that they had to remember was that it is a life of service rather than celebrity. Meghan could have have focused for a few years on just raising children and getting to know her new home country and its people, and begun her projects when she'd had the time to find out what was relevant and doable in that context. I almost changed my mind about her at the time of the wedding, I thought her father behaved abominably. But it didn't take long to find out that it's mostly their impatience, hubris and all that pretentious nonsense that they like to waste their time on that has led to this mess. They have not exactly impressed with their intelligence either, which was supposed to be Meghan's strong point. Or so I hear!
 
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Because Megz and Harry would have called their lawyers by Saturday lunchtime


Oh, yes I saw that story on the Dominic Lawson article in the mail.
Prince William is an aide de camp for the Queen and has some gold braid on his uniform.
Harry had a hissy fit that he wasn’t one, so was given the same »honour » a few months later.
Honestly he is a spoilt brat.

Even basic things like he is allowed to have a beard when he is uniform.
it’s normally against the rules in the military, and he looks scruffy; whereas William looks <swoon> in uniform.

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Seriously, how is it even possible for a bloke to look like such a woman when in a uniform? I'm literally shocked at how grubby (and mismatched) her looks.
My weedy kid bro looked better in his white polyester £5 Top Gun officer halloween suit years ago.

I mean even my postman, and the security guys in our local mall look quite tasty in their basic uniforms.
 
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I've worked in an organization that is a close equivalent of the royal family and I do have to say that it can be mind-numbing and demoralizing precisely because of the hierarchy that kind of puts a damper on everything if the people at the top are unintelligent and set in their ways. If that is the case in the royal family is debatable, but Meghan and Harry were considered senior royals and had access to so much comforts. Lovely wedding, lots of love from the public, no money worries, beautiful home, the option to work as much or as little as they pleased and first and foremost... each other! The only thing that they had to remember was that it is a life of service rather than celebrity. Meghan could have have focused for a few years on just raising children and getting to know her new home country and its people, and begun her projects when she'd had the time to find out what was relevant and doable in that context. I almost changed my mind about her at the time of the wedding, I thought her father behaved abominably. But it didn't take long to find out that it's mostly their impatience, hubris and all that pretentious nonsense that they like to waste their time on that has led to this mess. They have not exactly impressed with their intelligence either, which was supposed to be Meghan's strong point. Or so I hear!
Much of what you say here is too much common sense for either Harry or Meghan to process. As for Meghan's rumoured levels of intelligence. it seems to me they have been greatly exaggerated.
 
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Well its listed for 1030am tomorrow in front of Warby. Unfortunately Im a bit busy tomorrow and out and about so you probably wont be hearing from me till Thursday. I'm sure youll manage.
 
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Just a little preview of tomorrow when I gather the Mail have revealed that Judgment will be "handed down" in the injunctive application to restrain naming of their 5 "letter" Winesses.

Usually this happens: The Judgment will have been sent to the Barristers for both parties late yesterday afternoon. This is on the strict understanding that neither it nor its conclusions will be dislcosed any further. Although in Practice the Barrister tells the solicitor and they sort of hint at the outcome to the client "Its not gone entirely our way..." This is to allow the Parties representatives to try and agree consequential directions. These will be about the conditions either of the imposition of anonymity or its relaxation; or if either party Appeals what happens until the Appeal is heard. If either party Appeals the Court has to give leave which if they refuse (because they think an Appeal is hopeless) the losing party then has to make another Application to another judge for leave to Appeal. You can see why its all so absurdly expensive.

Speaking of which, also costs. The losing party will usually pay the winning parties costs of the Application which are usually assesed on the spot, and payable in weeks, although if they are very large and its complex they can be assesed by yet another specialist Court. It might also be that this hearing is where the Judge disposes of the apparently unresolved issue of who pays the costs of the Application lost in May, which would make sense.

Anything the parties cant agree will be determined at tomorrows hearing and whoever loses those arguments will also pay all or part of the costs of that hearing.

So Meghans perfect week could continue with game over on protecting the naming of her Witnesses and two expensive adverse costs orders. We can but hope.
Jesus mercy, what a palaver. Though I can see that it's all necessary to avoid accusations of the system being unfair. I'm one of the "bloody lawyers, easy money :mad:" brigade but I can see how they need to beaver to earn it in frivolous shite like this.
Thanks for that.

Its a version of events so fantastically unlikely that it is hard to imagine how it will survive the cross examination of five different witnesses: How and when did you get the letter or parts of it and from whom? Did you all go seperately or in a group or in dribs and drabs to the Magazine? Which of you had the idea first or did it appear miraculously in all your minds at once like the Holy Spirit? Did NONE of you think it might be an idea to check with the Special One first.....then the detail...
OOOH, I'm there, in that court room muttering manically "Ask her about X !" and "Nail her to the wall about Y!" and "She's being evasive, make her give a straight answer!" like a loony.
I'd think about buying the transcripts for that evidence alone. :m
 
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Katie Nicoll helpfully explaining to the Mail's legal team us that the Harkles like to get their messages into print via their friends.


She explained that the book appeared 'to give Meghan and Harry the chance, if not through their own voices, then through the voices of friends, confidants and people that they trust, to get their side of the story out there.'

She added that Meghan particularly felt 'muted' for her royal life, and didn't have the opportunity to respond to critics.

Mr Scobie and Miss Durand say they have spoken to more than 100 sources, including ‘close friends of Harry and Meghan, royal aides and palace staff (past and present)’.

A spokesman said the Duke and Duchess of Sussex did not contribute to the book. Meghan has been said in the past to permit friends to speak to the press on her behalf.


Will have the popcorn ready for 10.30 tomorrow. Hoping for a few friendly live-tweeters!
 
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