Harry and Meghan #105 Winning at life? More like whining at life.

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How many first words has this phantom child had??? Crocodile? Grandma? Flux Capacitor? My brain hurts reading these summaries, so I salute those sitting through them. Therapy may well be required after it. 3 days ago of course. šŸ˜‰Xx
Don't forget Hydrate! ... along with ... Black Lives Matter. Ok maybe I made that last bit up but feel I'm quite entitled to as the other 'first words' are obviously also a load of fake shite and pathetic attention-seeking. Harry's a mess, he'll never come back from this, he needs serious therapy along with a good slap round the chops with a big wet kipper.
 
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What I don't get is that if the RF are so horribly negligent and abusive, WHY DOES HE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT? I grew up in a family where, looking back now, I ended up being punished for the sins of my mother; she went to the States, had a relationship with an American man, and had me.Things didn't work out, he married someone else, and mum brought me back to Ireland. Which, as Irish Tattlers will know, was not easy for a single mum in the early '70s. Her two younger sisters were horrified. One actually offered to take me in and raise me with her family, because she was married. Mum said a big no to that.

And so, if they could see any fault in me and what I did, it was pointed out, repeatedly. They covered it up by saying they wanted the best for me, but it sure as hell didn't feel like it. My younger cousin was the golden child. I only ended up breaking away from it all about 22 years ago, and I've barely spoken to anyone on mum's side. Three of my uncles died, and I had to find out through death announcements online.

The thing is, I don't speak about all of this on a near daily basis. I'm not in an eternal pit of WOE IS ME. I just get up and keep living my life. Why Fuckwit sees the need to constantly go on and about how hard his gilded life was, I will never know. Apart from attempting to score points, it's just painting over dirt. Or like the little boy who cried wolf. Because one day, he'll say it all again, and no-one will give a tit about any of it.
I am sorry you had to put up with such crap it's not fair. Good on you to leave it all behind.
 
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I am sorry you had to put up with such crap it's not fair. Good on you to leave it all behind.
I came to realise over the years that there was no point in lingering on any of it. What good would wallowing in self pity and anger do me? By the time I pulled away, I had three young kids, and I could see even then that between all of the cousins, there were definitely 'favourites'. I took a step back and thought, "Do I really want my kids to go through the same tit I did?". And the answer was a big fat NO. Besides, my partner's family are amazing. Even though my eldest son isn't my partners, he was welcomed in with open arms, never made to feel othered. Best thing I ever did.
 
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As parents we all do our best. Looking back to my younger years I feel I could have done better but thatā€™s with maturity on my side. Iā€™m sure if we could raise our kids again thereā€™s some things we would do differently. I feel Harry isnā€™t giving Charles a break. He did what he thought was right from his own background and being heir to the throne. He didnā€™t repeat the mistake and send the boys to Gordenston, he sent them so theyā€™d be close by in Eton. He also hired Tiggy Legg Bourke who Harry in particular adored. I think itā€™s unfair to heap all the blame on the RF and Charles, Harry has to take some responsibility as a grown man now, heā€™s no longer a boy. I wonder if heā€™d be airing his laundry if Charles would be paying all his bills!
Also Harry has said he sweats profusely and gets anxiety during Royal functions. Well why didnā€™t they have a small intimate wedding. Surely he could have guided that to suit his needs..... but would it have suited Meghan and her Hollywood buddies?!
 
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I mean, only in Harry's world would someone even think about Dodi's race. He was a super privileged graduate of Le Rosey, who attended Sandhurst and whose father owned Harrods, Fulham FC and the Ritz in Paris. He had dark hair.
Quite. As privileged as they come. Harry is barmy and playing on some Americans ignorance and some peopleā€™s obsession with race. Just disgraceful.
 
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That was his down fall. Megabitch and loser H really thought they were so popular that anything they said would be believed and go unchallenged and the whole world would side with them against the RF. They totally underestimated the love that the British people and the Commonwealth have for the RF. They knew the Queen was very popular but she will be gone soon (sorry hate saying that but Iā€™m thinking how H&M think) so we can trash PC and PW and Catherine and overtake them and everyone would be begging us to return and it can be on our terms because the RF will be desperate. Underestimated PW and Catherine completely. Poor PC still battling with popularity because of the whole Diana crap. I am not sure where he sits right now, definitely ahead of Megabitch and PH. But PW and Catherine have excelled and are more popular than ever. People are looking forward to PW being King, I know I am. Suck on that Harry.
You nailed it! I hope HMTQ lives for a good few years yet and looking to the future when William will be King . I don't know if Charles is going to be able to do it tbh. This must have crushed him .
 
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'No gesture was more profound than his reassurance after she lost her royal title following her divorce from Prince Charles. ā€˜Donā€™t worry,ā€™ he told her. ā€˜I donā€™t mind what youā€™re called ā€” youā€™re Mummy.ā€™

Diana would often open her eyes wide in wonder at the son who looked so like her and remark: ā€˜Heā€™s wise that one, beyond his years.ā€™ '

But hey, poor Harry, right?
 
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Do you remember a few weeks ago we were all saying, itā€™s too quiet, sheā€™s up to something?? Funny that.

In regards to parenting and or lack of it....few of us can claim the perfect upbringing, those of us who are parents know weā€™re just making it up as we go along with our fingers crossed hoping for the best most of the time. I donā€™t pretend to know how to parent a child who has lost a mother or father, so (god forbid) if that were to happen, I would do all I could to get the professional help that child needed especially if my child lost that parent on the world stage as they did. You will never ever be able to convince me that William and the other one werenā€™t offered the very best of care and help, and continue to have access to it today. The fact that William has turned out such a stable man shows itā€™s not the parenting that fucked Harry up. And the fact that by all accounts Charles is devastated at the other one just proves what a low life piece of pond scum Harry has turned into. The controlled anger William showed delivering his statement wasnā€™t just directed at the BBC, that much is very clear. I bet he wants to beat Harry to tears with a polo club right now.
 
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'By focusing obsessively on your own hurt, or ā€˜traumaā€™, you fail to realise the wider effects of your words. Not content with throwing his grandmother, father and brother under a bus, Prince Harry will, I fear, encourage others to feel incapable of dealing with problems in their own lives.

His words could have a destructive effect on people far more vulnerable than him ā€” and with none of the privilege he enjoys.'
 
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TBH I don't blame him for feeling that way. There was so much wailing and hysteria from grown people crying out Diana's name while they walked behind her coffin.
He was only 12 years old......at that age I would have felt the same.
I never understood the hysteria around Dianaā€™s death. Like everyone, I was shocked she had died and sad for her sonā€™s. (Also Prince Charles because I knew they were going to blame him in some way)

But I never felt the way I was seeing people on TV behaving, and none of my family or friends felt that way either.

It was a very strange time, and what was even stranger was the way people were hating on the RF while they were in Balmoral, but as soon as they went back to London and did the walkabout thing, everyone was ā€œcomfortedā€ and the anti-RF sentiment immediately de-escalated. Weird šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø I also remember people reaching out to try to grab PW (he looked soooo like Diana back then).

And people projecting their feelings onto William and Harry must have been horrific for them, so I can kind of understand what Harry means when he says that. Itā€™s the way he says it though that seems ?mean? / unkind to the people of the time.


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I found this picture of the flowers outside KP - Huge amount!
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I would settle for him getting some GOOD psychiatric help.

I think if he gets that, a lot of his issues will disappear and the need to remove/give up title / place in succession will no longer be a problem
I thinknhe has had 10 yrs of psychiatric help, counselling and therapy. It hasn't worked because all he has done is blamed everyone else for his problems and unhappiness, of late, because he is a spoiled, immature man-child who is used to getting what he wants and who leads a responsibility-free, idle, babysat lifestyle. He didn't have to work, or carry a wallet, he didn't have to study or prove himself in any way. He didn't have to qualify for anything because his title got his teachers to take his tests for him and his RPOs to write his papers at Sandringham for him [speaking of which, how is his phone hacking 15 yrs too late court case going?].
He is used to getting what he wants without earning it and certainly without deserving it. He got military bottle-tops to pin on his jackets just because he hs gangan's grandchild and gold braids like his bruv because he threw a tantrum. How do other frpm the military who genuinely risked their lives feel when he gets the sparkly bits and they barely make ends meet? He wouldn't understand.

10yrs of therapy doesn't fix spoiled cretin.

Then she comes along, amplifies and inflates all of these narc traits like an olympic trainer with her own magical recipe of persecutional delusion, malignant narcissism, and vegan medicine-replacement meals and hey presto we have the equivalent Godzilla in Tokyo.
 
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As parents we all do our best. Looking back to my younger years I feel I could have done better but thatā€™s with maturity on my side. Iā€™m sure if we could raise our kids again thereā€™s some things we would do differently. I feel Harry isnā€™t giving Charles a break. He did what he thought was right from his own background and being heir to the throne. He didnā€™t repeat the mistake and send the boys to Gordenston, he sent them so theyā€™d be close by in Eton. He also hired Tiggy Legg Bourke who Harry in particular adored. I think itā€™s unfair to heap all the blame on the RF and Charles, Harry has to take some responsibility as a grown man now, heā€™s no longer a boy. I wonder if heā€™d be airing his laundry if Charles would be paying all his bills!
Also Harry has said he sweats profusely and gets anxiety during Royal functions. Well why didnā€™t they have a small intimate wedding. Surely he could have guided that to suit his needs..... but would it have suited Meghan and her Hollywood buddies?!
Do you remember a few weeks ago we were all saying, itā€™s too quiet, sheā€™s up to something?? Funny that.

In regards to parenting and or lack of it....few of us can claim the perfect upbringing, those of us who are parents know weā€™re just making it up as we go along with our fingers crossed hoping for the best most of the time. I donā€™t pretend to know how to parent a child who has lost a mother or father, so (god forbid) if that were to happen, I would do all I could to get the professional help that child needed especially if my child lost that parent on the world stage as they did. You will never ever be able to convince me that William and the other one werenā€™t offered the very best of care and help, and continue to have access to it today. The fact that William has turned out such a stable man shows itā€™s not the parenting that fucked Harry up. And the fact that by all accounts Charles is devastated at the other one just proves what a low life piece of pond scum Harry has turned into. The controlled anger William showed delivering his statement wasnā€™t just directed at the BBC, that much is very clear. I bet he wants to beat Harry to tears with a polo club right now.
The Legge-Bourke family are very well known to me. They are a very decent, caring, generous, funny, good hearted lot. Tiggy was well known to the RF , she was Princess Anne's lady in waiting.The boys spent a lot of time around Crickhowell and on the estate. No one bothered them. The locals protected their privacy . Their Father did the best for them imho .

I came to realise over the years that there was no point in lingering on any of it. What good would wallowing in self pity and anger do me? By the time I pulled away, I had three young kids, and I could see even then that between all of the cousins, there were definitely 'favourites'. I took a step back and thought, "Do I really want my kids to go through the same tit I did?". And the answer was a big fat NO. Besides, my partner's family are amazing. Even though my eldest son isn't my partners, he was welcomed in with open arms, never made to feel othered. Best thing I ever did.
That is just wonderful l am so happy for you . Well done on recognising the damage it could have done and walking away.
 
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'By focusing obsessively on your own hurt, or ā€˜traumaā€™, you fail to realise the wider effects of your words. Not content with throwing his grandmother, father and brother under a bus, Prince Harry will, I fear, encourage others to feel incapable of dealing with problems in their own lives.

His words could have a destructive effect on people far more vulnerable than him ā€” and with none of the privilege he enjoys.'
Fully fully agree. This is soo dangerous: itnis like handing Harpo and Hazno some laughing gas and scalpels and letting them all have a go at mass collective brain surgery. They are NOT qualified to be proceeding with mental health advice. If the advice is "I had therapy- there is nothing to be ashamed of" then fine. But 1) that is a sentence. Not a series so no money in it, 2) there isn't the woe is me drama and attention -seeking thrill of "getting my story out there", and 3) that message appears to be completely absent.... in every single harpo production with Hazno... be it the interviews, the Armchair thingy, the Apple series. There is no message, just stories and blame.
However the clip of Saint Harry hugging himself is comedy gold.... and for that I am grateful.
I no longer thinknhenis nuts. Just a hugely nasty unpleasant person with zero self-awareness, accountability or frankly IQ.
 
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I never understood the hysteria around Dianaā€™s death. Like everyone, I was shocked she had died and sad for her sonā€™s. (Also Prince Charles because I knew they were going to blame him in some way)

But I never felt the way I was seeing people on TV behaving, and none of my family or friends felt that way either.

It was a very strange time, and what was even stranger was the way people were hating on the RF while they were in Balmoral, but as soon as they went back to London and did the walkabout thing, everyone was ā€œcomfortedā€ and the anti-RF sentiment immediately de-escalated. Weird šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø I also remember people reaching out to try to grab PW (he looked soooo like Diana back then).

And people projecting their feelings onto William and Harry must have been horrific for them, so I can kind of understand what Harry means when he says that.


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I found this picture of the flowers outside KP - Huge!
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It was a strange time and I remember it well. I went to Kensington Gardens and saw all the flowers and everyone being united in being sad. All the dead flowers unnerved me a bit as I don't like cut flowers especially when they start to decay.

There will be huge grief when the Queen dies but I wonder if we will get the same reaction now.
 
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Iā€™d thought we had seen them already scrape the bottom of that barrel...

Iā€™ve seen the snippets that have come out and I donā€™t think it is right to say Diana died because she was with someone of a different skin colour and ā€˜now look what happenedā€™. She died because she was driven by someone drunk, was chased by press and didnā€™t wear a seatbelt. The press chased her because she was Diana. The fact she was with Dodi was irrelevant- they would have jostled for a photo purely because of who she was. Itā€™s largely believed that Diana would have survived had she worn a seatbelt.

Harry is choosing here to skim over the fact that Diana had previously been in a long established relationship with Hasnat Khan (spelling?).

Iā€™m struggling to see the end game here. What is he trying to achieve? If he is trying to achieve celebrity through victim hood then I think he will regret it. At some point, due to the saturation of his ā€˜contentā€™ people will switch off as it is limiting. I am finding that whilst I donā€™t disbelieve his motherā€™s death was traumatic and has caused him a degree of mental harm - itā€™s becoming difficult not to see this as him commercialising his Mumā€™s death. He canā€™t keep dining out on this - itā€™s very one dimensional. Itā€™s also incredibly unfair to William - it canā€™t be easy seeing Harry everywhere talking about their Mum

I was really disappointed to see how he reacted to Daxā€™s disclosure. Heā€™s positioning himself as a mental health advocate which is great. But heā€™s a mental health advocate for his mental health. If you want to position yourself as such - educate yourself, learn how to respond to peopleā€™s hurt in a more appropriate way. He just came over as high handed and incredibly blasĆ© about Daxā€™s hurt and like he wasnā€™t talking about him so it didnā€™t matter.

As he is talking, you can visibly see the anger. It seems like a perpetual state which really canā€™t be healthy.

I canā€™t work out if we are seeing a master grand plan (suspect not as they tend to cook up grand plans over dinner and want them actioned) of if we are seeing him unravel in front of the worldā€™s media. Either way it is becoming incredibly uncomfortable viewing.

And she is far too quiet.
 
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I thinknhe has had 10 yrs of psychiatric help, counselling and therapy. It hasn't worked because all he has done is blamed everyone else for his problems and unhappiness, of late, because he is a spoiled, immature man-child who is used to getting what he wants and who leads a responsibility-free, idle, babysat lifestyle. He didn't have to work, or carry a wallet, he didn't have to study or prove himself in any way. He didn't have to qualify for anything because his title got his teachers to take his tests for him and his RPOs to write his papers at Sandringham for him [speaking of which, how is his phone hacking 15 yrs too late court case going?].
He is used to getting what he wants without earning it and certainly without deserving it. He got military bottle-tops to pin on his jackets just because he hs gangan's grandchild and gold braids like his bruv because he threw a tantrum. How do other frpm the military who genuinely risked their lives feel when he gets the sparkly bits and they barely make ends meet? He wouldn't understand.

10yrs of therapy doesn't fix spoiled cretin.

Then she comes along, amplifies and inflates all of these narc traits like an olympic trainer with her own magical recipe of persecutional delusion, malignant narcissism, and vegan medicine-replacement meals and hey presto we have the equivalent Godzilla in Tokyo.
Thatā€™s why I capitalised GOOD šŸ˜Š

I think the therapy heā€™s had hasnā€™t tackled his underlying issues, just the surface symptoms. I also wonder how truthful and open he was with those therapists? They can only work with what theyā€™re given and if he was holding back, they didnt have a chance.

Q. Was he setting them up to fail, so he could say ā€œSee, Iā€™ve had therapy, now leave me aloneā€ or maybe (more likely) ā€œSee, Iā€™ve had therapy and it didnā€™t make a difference. Itā€™s not me, itā€™s you!ā€
 
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Thanks for the information.

There's obviously been leaks from the palace that have enabled the dastardly Harkles to upstage royal events during the last year. Do you happen to know if they have got to the bottom of that?

If they've still got a sussex spy and traitor working there then any plans could be foiled by the Harkles being ready to hit back.
I donā€™t think they have a spy - they didnā€™t really upstage many events that were ā€œsecretā€ - ie all the Royal events are published well in advance and mostly it appeared they tried to coincide with things like Birthdays - which quite frankly is just petty.

I think if you wanted to find out the Royals Plans for releasing things itā€™s all out there to find. PWB clearly didnā€™t know about William making a statement as it was headline news (10 o clock news) in the UK and the new reader literally announced it and then at the end of the piece said Prince Harry has also released a statement. They defintiely times that wrong.

To be honest I canā€™t image one single Rotal employee who would be part of this public toilet flushing - but then again they still seem to have fans???? How I donā€™t know, but itā€™s possible!

I think though any support they did have has dwindled and dwindles itā€™s going to be pretty none existent I think within the next 12 months - if nothing else through churn of staff that dumb and dumber didnā€™t even know!
 
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He is re-hashing the same story over and over and over again with an added garnish now and then to make it seem new.
The only worry is that should something happen to William and his family, something very possible given that they travel together, then He and she would be King and no doubt Queen after Charles. Following them ofcourse would be King Archie 1
For all their claims of hating Royal life blah blah blah they wouldn't turn that down.....too many riches for that in every sense.
 
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Quite. As privileged as they come. Harry is barmy and playing on some Americans ignorance and some peopleā€™s obsession with race. Just disgraceful.
I noticed a lot of my USA co-workers think it is racist to mention where someone is from, like a country or continent. But for me it is nothing like that. It is more like if I mention the country, I will know the history of our countries. It is hard to explain.
When these M&H type of rich people say "white" they always talk like every white person is the Queen. As a gypsy I can tell you "white" has many shades and history.
 
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